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01-05-2011 10:42 PM
Scooter_Trash
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Originally Posted by jkjeeper06 View Post
Maybe in the summer I'll get the daylighters again and throw them on some windshield brackets and rig them up to the high beams. How is this set up? Is there a ton of glare off the hood or is it fine?
I can't tell you about the lower windshield mounts, but I had a set of daylighters mounted high on the windshield of my YJ. There was a lot of glare off the hood then, so it seems to me the lower ones would be even worse.
01-05-2011 10:26 PM
jkjeeper06 Thanks everyone! I jus returned the daylighters for 55w Apollo lights by KC. Technically they aren't street legal but up here in Massachusetts and New Hampshire as long as they are 55 watts it Isnt a problem to run them on the streets. Maybe in the summer I'll get the daylighters again and throw them on some windshield brackets and rig them up to the high beams. How is this set up? Is there a ton of glare off the hood or is it fine?
01-05-2011 06:45 PM
bonefish1
Been on both sides

Depending on when and where you drive any little oddity can get you pulled over, I start work at 4am so at 3am when the cops are trolling for Dui's i've been pulled over a couple of times for really petty stuff. ( One bulb of two on my licence plate was blown but still clearly readable ).

As a former cop night duty can be a really exciting wild time or boring as hell when you you look for anything to do to make the time go by.

Just stick with the legal lights.
01-04-2011 07:19 AM
bigcopintex73 As retired Officer, and former Police Motor Officer, I can tell you for sure that if the lights appear to be brighter than standard, you will eventually get stopped. If its a rookie Officer, chances are you'll get a ticket. The fine and court costs arent worth the risk of running 100w's. Murphy's Law? Save that money you'd spend paying a possible fine and buy some cool jeep stuff
01-04-2011 06:35 AM
Jon M As also being someone that "likes to cause people trouble" I would suggest you use them off road. You stated you already have fog lights. Use those on the road with your headlights. I DO pull people over here in FL for excessive light. Not because I don't like them, the more light the better, but in urban areas it is unsafe. I've seen elderly drivers here in FL drive completely off the road with a car coming at them with excessivly bright light. I say mount them but use them for what they are intended to be used for. If you don't think you can restrain yourself then don't put them on.
01-04-2011 05:49 AM
txron
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Originally Posted by FlyinJeeps View Post
Sorry don't know the answer to your question, just remember though, the glare off the road could blind an on-coming vehicle even if the lights aren't pointed directly at them.
Agree with the above, the wet pavement would give a glare that could be worse then directly pointed straight down road. The glare may just be a quick just in the right spot, may cause a bad situation.

Keep them, just run them off road or way out in BFE with no chance of blinding another vehicle.

Don't forget to turn them off when engine not running, likely pull a whammy load on the battery
01-03-2011 07:20 PM
jeepnpr
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Originally Posted by VolForce View Post
I was advised by the local PD here to keep the covers on the lights and I know in some states that is the law if you are driving on the road. I only use my lights for off-road so it's no big deal to me.
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Question, If you want to use them as driving lights why not just get some "legal" lights and not worry about it?
I had 4 KC Daylighters on my CJ-7 and kept getting pulled over and told to put covers on or take 'em off. Bad thing was every time I put covers on them someone kept stealing the covers.
Most states won't hassle you but if they are covered. Then again if they are covered you can't use them on road as you like.
01-03-2011 03:45 PM
Grog If you cover them on road you should be fine. Some states like Virginia have a reputation for ticketing you for having them on your rig and uncovered.

In general, you are allowed to have two headlights and two auxillary lights turned on your vehicle, which is usually headlights and fog lights. Any additional lights can get you a ticket.

Some states and towns (like here in Arkansas) can ticket you if your headlights are lifted too high off the ground. I know people with 6" lifts and big tires who have been ticketed for this in the daytime. The laws are funny.

Cover the offroad lights and you will be fine.
01-03-2011 01:09 PM
TW7375 I have a set of PIAA lights on the windshield which are also well over 55w. I have not had a problem with using them. If you use them on the road just turn them off when another car is approaching. You shouldn't have an issue.
01-03-2011 07:28 AM
VolForce I was advised by the local PD here to keep the covers on the lights and I know in some states that is the law if you are driving on the road. I only use my lights for off-road so it's no big deal to me.
01-03-2011 07:27 AM
Peepers I believe in general, the only "legal" way to have off-road lights is to either wire them so they only come on with your high beams, or they have to be covered on road, or you have to have a kill switch not accessable from the drivers seat.

My kill switch is mounted next to all my regular switches, but that was the easiest way to wire it, and I need to do a compleat re-wire on my lights someday, too many wires going every where.
01-03-2011 07:15 AM
castorj29 Just use common sense and be aware of the vehicle coming your way. I have mine hooked up to my high beams. That way i have control at my finger tips at all times.
01-03-2011 04:25 AM
Hilldweller I don't think that KC makes a street legal light at all. So, if you have a knowledgeable LEO, you're burned, especially in VA and CA where they take it more seriously.

Regardless, a "driving light", one that you'll use while on the streets, has to be wired to only be able to be burning while the highbeams are on. That's an important criteria to follow.
You're allowed to run foglights with the lowbeams but only should when conditions merit their use; they also have to be wired to turn off when you flick to highbeam.

In most states you'll get left alone if you run a 55 watter the way I'm describing. In most of the red states you'll be okay even with the 100 watters ---- but why risk it?
It's not like you'll out-drive the 55s in a Jeep anyhow.

You'll do more good by replacing your headlight assemblies anyhow and running better bulbs. The light from a set of quality reflectors/bulbs is sharper, better focused, brighter, and less glaring to oncoming drivers.
That's win/win for you and other motorists.

This thread turned into a good one on lights.
01-02-2011 09:23 PM
Search And Destroy they usually don't care as long as it's not on with other traffic around.
01-02-2011 09:21 PM
adrenaline Most states will make you cover them on road. Meaning that 100W will be ok as long as they are covered when not in use. But as others have stated 100w is pretty over kill for street use.
01-02-2011 09:19 PM
Mr. Sinister before you do all that, see if you can just replace the 100w bulb with a 55w bulb. my ipf driving lights use h3 bulbs, so there is a selection of wattages out there. just an idea.
01-02-2011 09:15 PM
Lance03 ^^^sorry, didn't know I was in the JK forum.^^^
01-02-2011 09:13 PM
Lance03 KC makes a replacement for the stock TJ bumper mounted fogs, they are 55w and plug right into the factory harness. And they come with a stone guard. Pretty sweet lights.
01-02-2011 08:08 PM
jkjeeper06 All of these are very good points. I am going to return them and grab a set of 55w. I figure the headlights are 55w and the stock fogs are 24w so the second set of 55's will be plenty and then there is nothing to pull me over for provided it is aimed properly. Eventually I might buy the daylighters again and put them on the windshield.

Does anyone have any suggestions on 55w driving/fog lights?
01-02-2011 07:36 PM
Steel02001
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Originally Posted by jk47882 View Post
As a person who is employed "to cause people problems", I can say that if the light is designed for off road use, then use it off road. Lights designed for on road use tend to have narrower beams and do not blind oncoming drivers when used correctly. As mentioned in a previous post, use courtesy and common sense and "Cops" won't cause you problems.

I'm also one of these people, of the municipal variety, and I would stop you for it. Overly bright lights cause a problem for lots of other drivers, more than you would probably realize.

If its something you are concerned about, as said before, dont do it. Or use them as brights. Dont use them often on city streets.
01-02-2011 06:12 PM
Scooter_Trash
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Originally Posted by FlyinJeeps View Post
Sorry don't know the answer to your question, just remember though, the glare off the road could blind an on-coming vehicle even if the lights aren't pointed directly at them.

With the light aimed low, you will also be blinding people as you crest hills. I say unless you live in a low traffic rural area, keep the off road lights off road. Install a set of 55w lights instead of having people mutter "f'n Jeeps" every time they get blinded by you.
01-02-2011 04:56 PM
jk47882 Some states have specific laws as to how many lights maybe lighted at one time on the front of a vehicle. If the lights are not blinding oncoming traffic and aren't violating a state equipment code you should be good to go. You do need to check your states laws. The easiest thing to do is ask a local Officer. They will be able to not only tell you the law but give their opinion as to your lights in particular as they'll be able to see them.
01-02-2011 04:47 PM
jkjeeper06
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Originally Posted by jk47882

As a person who is employed "to cause people problems", I can say that if the light is designed for off road use, then use it off road. Lights designed for on road use tend to have narrower beams and do not blind oncoming drivers when used correctly. As mentioned in a previous post, use courtesy and common sense and "Cops" won't cause you problems.
Since you are a police officer your opinion means the most here. These lights are marketed as driving lights so they do have a narrower beam. No kc hilights are DOT approved as is the case with many auxiliary lights whether legal or not. Would you pull me over if they were aimed much lower than my low beams?
01-02-2011 04:37 PM
jk47882
Off Road lights

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Originally Posted by XJ Knight View Post
Cops find all sorts of ways to cause people problems.. Id think since your aiming them so low you'd be ok though.. Might recommend re adjusting them to a different angle when offroad at night if you do go at night so as to have more light in different places..
As a person who is employed "to cause people problems", I can say that if the light is designed for off road use, then use it off road. Lights designed for on road use tend to have narrower beams and do not blind oncoming drivers when used correctly. As mentioned in a previous post, use courtesy and common sense and "Cops" won't cause you problems.
01-02-2011 04:35 PM
MikeMTJ I would suggest not running them on the road at all. It's not what they aren't meant for, and I can't see a lot of situations where you would actually need them on road.
01-02-2011 04:25 PM
MTH
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Originally Posted by jkjeeper06 View Post
Would you suggest keeping them or returning them for a pair of 55 watters?
Given that you're concerned about it, why bother installing them and getting your heartrate up every time you see a cruiser? It's going to bother you everytime you drive your Jeep. Just exchange them for the set you believe are lawful. You'll be happier in the end regardless of whether you ever would have gotten pulled over.
01-02-2011 04:24 PM
Vaultzz I'd say run them as you would High beams like I run my windshield lights. When you see on coming cars then just turn them off. and then turn them back on after they've gone past
01-02-2011 04:22 PM
jkjeeper06
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Originally Posted by XJ Knight
Cops find all sorts of ways to cause people problems.. Id think since your aiming them so low you'd be ok though.. Might recommend re adjusting them to a different angle when offroad at night if you do go at night so as to have more light in different places..
This is a good idea. If I go off roading at night I'll be sure to aim them back up to make the trail light up more
01-02-2011 04:15 PM
XJ Knight Cops find all sorts of ways to cause people problems.. Id think since your aiming them so low you'd be ok though.. Might recommend re adjusting them to a different angle when offroad at night if you do go at night so as to have more light in different places..
01-02-2011 04:02 PM
Lawngnome If you do get pulled over, just claim ignorance and tell them you will be replacing them now that you know or something. If they are mounted low by your regular headlights that might draw more attention tho by comparisson. Im assuming regular headlights are 55W?
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