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01-10-2014 08:29 AM
Carlray Here's an easy way to solve this. Measure your lift blocks.
01-09-2014 09:48 PM
krisbman And theres a huge 1" of flex room too, also not good.
01-09-2014 09:30 PM
K.wag If you can see daylight over the frame -- let me rephrase that, if you can see more than an inch and a half of daylight over the frame -- it is not a 1.5" body lift.
01-09-2014 09:28 PM
fattirewilly "I don't care if you're the miracle child of Sheba, your comments thus far have shown significant ignorance with regard to the setup of the system"

This comment should be in someone's signiture
01-09-2014 09:16 PM
krisbman Still say more than 2" which is not good
01-09-2014 09:12 PM
poptarts bought it off a cl.. 75$ he said it was 1.5 i put 2" in my sig because i didn't think .5 mattered.
01-09-2014 07:58 PM
krisbman
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Originally Posted by K.wag View Post
I call BS. lol your signature says 2". I agree its more like 3"+
Ditto. 3"BL easy.
01-09-2014 06:27 PM
K.wag
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Originally Posted by Trendsetter75 View Post
AH! Anything more than a 4.25 lift is ridiculous
LCOG Jeeps FTW
01-09-2014 05:00 PM
Trendsetter75 AH! Anything more than a 4.25 lift is ridiculous
01-09-2014 04:55 PM
K.wag
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Originally Posted by poptarts View Post
no i promise i just got the pic just right. i don't have nerf bars or steps to get on to hide it. but ya i have them for sale now. it is crazy big.
I call BS. lol your signature says 2". I agree its more like 3"+
01-09-2014 02:52 PM
BLZ
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Originally Posted by K.wag View Post
That HAS to be more than 1.5" body lift... I can see it from here!
Haha...first thing I noticed also.
Lookin like a big 3" bl in her to me.. other than that..nice jeep
01-09-2014 02:34 PM
poptarts
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Originally Posted by K.wag View Post
That HAS to be more than 1.5" body lift... I can see it from here!
no i promise i just got the pic just right. i don't have nerf bars or steps to get on to hide it. but ya i have them for sale now. it is crazy big.
01-09-2014 01:46 AM
K.wag
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Originally Posted by poptarts View Post
here is my jeep with 4" lift, 1.5" body lift, 15x10 headlocks with 38x15.50r15 atz
That HAS to be more than 1.5" body lift... I can see it from here!
01-08-2014 08:47 PM
OmniscientHiers
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Originally Posted by Jtaylor1129 View Post

Yes RINGGOLD GA. Are you from around here?
Long travel shocks are def. on the mod list but these are only around a year old.
I'm from the southern portion of Ga, near Albany. I lived in Ringgold for a couple months, then moved up to Knoxville.

And back on topic...
01-08-2014 05:09 PM
poptarts here is my jeep with 4" lift, 1.5" body lift, 15x10 headlocks with 38x15.50r15 atz
01-08-2014 05:05 PM
Dragonii
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Originally Posted by wwch99tj View Post
Download the photobucket app and upload using the IMG link...
Yep, that easy.
I do want to see this thing before it gets rolled.
01-08-2014 03:38 PM
K.wag
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Originally Posted by UnlimitedLJ04 View Post
Thats about 20% of it.


Changing lift height changes all that stuff you claim to have corrected, again.

And what "works"? Define "works"? If you're junk isn't tested to the max, properly setup in many respects then it doesn't "work". Ignorance is bliss on this subject.


Yup, lots of people only understand 20% of their suspension, so you're not alone. You don't know what you don't know, and you need to learn more so you can setup a rig that truely works. Again, ignorance is bliss...and you think you know everything...so do whatever you want. Don't say we didn't try to warn you...


Whats wrong with 3 to 4" of lift & 33s? You make it sound like lift height has something to do with tire size...it DOES NOT. They are completely independent.

FWIW, Theres a reason this is such a common setup...well, with proper bumpstop extensions it plain works...for real "works". Not inexperienced mechanics thinks it "works" kinda works.


that would be a good start, but with the pinion rotation required, you'll most likely need to cut the upper spring perch off and relocate it. If you add Nth Degree's spring relocators, you'll gain almost 2" of lift just with the relocation. Superlift and BlueTorchFab also sell good kits to use, or you can relocate the stock perches. Don't forget about outboarding your shocks, this would be a necessary mod if you actually intend to run 7" of lift and make it "work".


Tires are the least of your concern.
So list to make it work...
1. Taller springs of proper lift height, with no spacers. 6" Skyjacker, 7.5" or 5.5" Rubicon Express, 6" Teraflex, 6" Rock Krawler...whatever your personal choice is.
2. Long arm's - I'd recommend the Clayton Off-road or PolyPerformance kits. Poly Perf also sells outboarded rear shock kits that will work well with it. You'll want to upper tri-link the rear to ditch the track bar, and you might want to consider an upper tri-link in front, you might have room to clear the necessary truss with the bumpstop extension you'll need to clear the 6" lift shocks.
3. Bumpstop extensions. These are probably the most important thing you can do, and if you understand why and how they work....preventing shocks from bottoming out, preventing spring damage due to overcompression, and lastly, for tire clearance...then you'll be doing all right. The length of extension and geometry is very important for all lift heights.
4. Longer brake lines front and rear to work with the suspension described in #2. And springs to keep them out of the way of suspension travel.
5. Limit straps to prevent the shocks from bottoming out, and prevent the springs from completely unseating.
6. Cutting the front track bar mount off the frame and welding on a double shear mount with a flex joint. TnT customs sells a nice one.
7. Ditch what you have admitted is a body lift with collapsed mounts. Install new body mounts. You won't need a BL to fit 35s with 6" of lift. If you want to fit larger tires, you'll need to move to 1-ton axles anyway.
8. Brakes - 35s requires bigger brakes. Vanco sells a nice kit...get the 16" version with dual piston 48mm calipers, or even the 17" Raptor kit.
9. Roll cage. The increased height will increase the chance of roll-over. Heavier tires and heavier suspension components reduce the effectiveness of an already ineffective roll cage. The stock B and C-pillars are a good starting point, but the whole front half to the A pillar is useless.


lack of money is not an excuse for having a crap Jeep that is improperly setup. You can always go back to stock, which was setup by a team of engineers far smarter than you and I.


I've got a masters in mechanical engineering from one of the top 50 schools in the country, but who cares? It's not relevent to the discussion at hand. Suck up your pride, get off your high horse, close your mouth, open your ears, read more and learn something. I don't care if you're the miracle child of Sheba, your comments thus far have shown significant ignorance with regard to the setup of the system you don't know you need for the lift height you want.


Again, what someone else has isn't relevent to the discussion. What "works" varies greatly in people's definitions. Some people, including lift kit companies, think 4" of lift & 15" collapsed length shocks, with no bumpstop extensions works...and its probably the most commonly sold setup...but I'll tell you right now it doesn't work. Add 2" bumpstop extensions in front and 2-3" in rear and it works, but I challenge you to find how many people actually understand why.

Similarly, some people think 35's and stock brakes "works", but it doesn't. Some claim they can stop effectively, but they cannot. The TJ's brakes have significant design flaws, and with bigger tires these become very dangerous.



I sure can, read the following:
OME 2.5", No BL - 32 or 33's????? - Page 2 - JeepForum.com
http://www.wranglerforum.com/f5/corr...gth-70047.html
bumpstops, shock length, and tires size. help me iron out the fuzzy points.. - JeepForum.com


Yup, that is very common. 0.75" or 1", no problem. 2"+ and you've got problems. The point - if you didn't understand that, read those links again. Springs compress into a physical size, and 2" spacers will reduce the space springs have to compress into, therefore you need to extend your bumpstops more than usual to prevent spring damage. That means you loose uptravel over lift springs of the proper size. and uptravel is 50% of the point of a lift.


If you understand how the suspension works, you use 0.75" to 1" spacers to level the front as you see fit. In fact, I've got 0.75" spacers in front to level out my Jeep a bit. But I also know my 933 OME shocks will fully compress into about 8", which fits inside the stock jounce tower with stock bumpstop extensions. But I've added 0.75" spacers, so I need to extend the bumpstops at least 0.75" to give the springs the same 8" of compression space. In reality, I've added 1-3/8" bumpstop extensions to the front, to prevent the track bar from hitting the modified diff cover, and prevent the track bar from hitting the tie-rod. Giving the springs at least 5/8" more than stock for compression space. And because I've got 1-3/8" bumpstops, I was able to extend my 13.3" collapsed length shocks by 1", effectively making them 14.3" collapsed length, and gaining 1" of downtravel out of them.

It is absolutely imperative you check both front and rear suspensions at full compression, with the springs and jounce bumper removed. That tests for suspension interferences. Flex tests are only for testing tire clearance on the steel fenders & flares.

If you want to "level" or gain more than 1" in front or rear, you need to research spring rates and spring lengths, and buy a different spring that fits your needs better. Stiffer, longer or whatever. Some folks buy 4" front springs and 3" rear springs, which isn't a bad way to go if you have a heavy bumper and winch. or put your jeep on a diet and loose some weight.
01-08-2014 09:02 AM
wwch99tj
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Originally Posted by jacked06tj View Post
But if anyone is interested to see and can tell me how to upload a pic from my android I'd love to show you guys the finished product before I passed her on for the audi
Download the photobucket app and upload using the IMG link...
01-08-2014 07:54 AM
jacked06tj But if anyone is interested to see and can tell me how to upload a pic from my android I'd love to show you guys the finished product before I passed her on for the audi
01-08-2014 07:53 AM
jacked06tj Ok so here's an update, I put in those spacers, and beat the tar out of my jeep for awhile. Broke stuff, fixed stuff, cleaned it a bunch of times, refinanced it and two days later traded it in on a boosted 6 speed awd audi. Recently I got a job at jeff Daniels, not sure if you guys have ever heard of them. Working in a jeep shop really made me think about getting another jeep, but instead bought a plow truck so I can pay for that audi I mentioned. Long story short, that 4 cylinder ricer I spoke of was purchased, and I probably won't own another jeep for a long time it makes me sad, but I still have many friends in jeeps, so ill just lend helping hands when needed and ride shotty in the woods. On the upside bitches dig the audi! Slammed, straight piped from turbo back, chipped, new turbo, the list goes on. One of my best friends still say I drive my audi like a jeep tho
01-05-2014 08:32 PM
Jtaylor1129
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Originally Posted by OmniscientHiers View Post
Ringgold, Ga? You should throw on some long travel shocks. I have 3" on 32s and I think that's a bit much; I can't imagine an extra 5.5" to climb.
Yes RINGGOLD GA. Are you from around here?
Long travel shocks are def. on the mod list but these are only around a year old.
01-05-2014 12:43 PM
Carlray Here's 4.5 inch on 35's 2.5 suspension and 2" body.

Attachment 642145

Here's 8" on same 35's 6" suspension 2" body(to much IMO)

Attachment 642161

Here's after removing body lift

Attachment 642169
01-05-2014 09:21 AM
Brandon_james It's not finished yet but ...6 in long arm Fabtech lift 2 in body lift 36.5 in iroks g2 Dana 60 front an rear 4:88 gears locked.....there's a picture haha
01-05-2014 09:10 AM
OmniscientHiers
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Originally Posted by Jtaylor1129 View Post
6" longarm suspension + 1" body/mm lift and 35x12.5...I wheel it hard. Yeah the COG is a little high but if you know how to drive it, it's not bad. The flex is great. But personally I wouldn't go any higher if you plan on 4 wheeling at all. I can clear 37s no problem w/ my tube fenders.
Ringgold, Ga? You should throw on some long travel shocks.

I have 3" on 32s and I think that's a bit much; I can't imagine an extra 5.5" to climb.
01-04-2014 11:33 PM
GoldenEagle i just want to see the jeep! haha
01-04-2014 11:29 PM
tkfx Guys this a 3 year old thread, let it crawl back into the void!
01-04-2014 11:20 PM
Jtaylor1129 6" longarm suspension + 1" body/mm lift and 35x12.5...I wheel it hard. Yeah the COG is a little high but if you know how to drive it, it's not bad. The flex is great. But personally I wouldn't go any higher if you plan on 4 wheeling at all. I can clear 37s no problem w/ my tube fenders.
01-03-2014 11:17 PM
GingerTJ Why are you doing this stuff if your jeep is not paid off? That should be priority... Am I wrong?
01-03-2014 11:13 PM
GingerTJ I have 6" measured lift and 35's and it's max I would want to go.. I'm 6'3 and have to jump to reach the step to get in the damn thing. But it sure looks cool.
01-03-2014 11:11 PM
Nlburden I wouldn't do much higher then a 6 inch lift really, one of my previous jeeps had about 7.5 inches of lift and was on 33's really it needed about 37s for that height it didn't look good. I got a jeep lifted about 5.5 inches i believe on 35's and that looks great . Despite the first impression of " Hey its cool to be big and high" However if you run small tires and a big lift it will not look good or perform the best. If you want to truly run a big lift then go for it, it doesn't look the greatest though
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