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01-16-2015 02:10 PM
Y-Guy The eye bolt that extends towards the ceiling from the rack, and the looped cable and the Malleable Wire Rope Clips cause there to be about 12" of loss space if you don't plan on using the rack. The advantage to leaving the rack on is this is a good place to store the Freedom panels while your hard top is off.

I think you could leave the rack in place and make some changes to cut down on the lost space. You should be able to use a shorter eye bolt, or consider just wrapping the cable around the frame itself and then using a Malleable Wire Rope Clip (two provides added safety) I did find the nuts/bolts that came with the rack were questionable as far as making a good tight crimp. I swapped out the nuts.
01-16-2015 02:00 PM
shredd_guy
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Originally Posted by Huklbery View Post
It's not hard to lift the back of the hardtop a couple of inches, one corner at a time, to slide a recovery strap between the top and the body. To ensure that the strap wouldn't slide off the back while hoisting the top, I was thinking of capturing the recovery strap between a pair of the bolt-down holes in the top, with a small bungee cord or even twine.

My reason for asking if the metal shelf is necessary to the use of the Racor lift is that I'm assuming that the top could be lifted closer to the ceiling without the shelf in place. Is this a correct assumption?
yes I think you are correct. if you page back to my modification of the cables that allows you to sug it all the way up and have the extra storage when not in use. you could always throw in some tie downs to get under the corners and have the extra flexibility.
01-15-2015 04:55 PM
Denizen of the Deep
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Originally Posted by Huklbery View Post

I guess I'll have to wait until I see it. From the pictures I've seen, there appear to be four individual cables. Without seeing one in person, I can't visualize why attaching the cables to four substantial recovery strap loops would be any less stable than attaching them to the corners of a metal shelf. Thanks for offering your advice.
You adjust each cable for length individually, so you should be able to make it work if you have enough cable.
01-15-2015 12:17 PM
Huklbery
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Originally Posted by Kadonny View Post
The shelf is what you strap the top to and gives you a bunch of anchor points. I guess you could use just the eye bolts with no shelf and attach straps directly to the eye bolts if you wanted, but I would think that would really make things unstable.

Personally I think the Racor is the way to go. No ropes attached to the wall to possibly have something happen to.
I guess I'll have to wait until I see it. From the pictures I've seen, there appear to be four individual cables. Without seeing one in person, I can't visualize why attaching the cables to four substantial recovery strap loops would be any less stable than attaching them to the corners of a metal shelf. Thanks for offering your advice.
01-15-2015 10:11 AM
Kadonny
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Originally Posted by Huklbery View Post
My reason for asking if the metal shelf is necessary to the use of the Racor lift is that I'm assuming that the top could be lifted closer to the ceiling without the shelf in place. Is this a correct assumption?
The shelf is what you strap the top to and gives you a bunch of anchor points. I guess you could use just the eye bolts with no shelf and attach straps directly to the eye bolts if you wanted, but I would think that would really make things unstable.

Personally I think the Racor is the way to go. No ropes attached to the wall to possibly have something happen to.
01-15-2015 08:34 AM
Huklbery
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Originally Posted by shredd_guy View Post
that's a good idea although it might be tuff to get it under the back side?? I wonder if a criss cross would work?
It's not hard to lift the back of the hardtop a couple of inches, one corner at a time, to slide a recovery strap between the top and the body. To ensure that the strap wouldn't slide off the back while hoisting the top, I was thinking of capturing the recovery strap between a pair of the bolt-down holes in the top, with a small bungee cord or even twine.

My reason for asking if the metal shelf is necessary to the use of the Racor lift is that I'm assuming that the top could be lifted closer to the ceiling without the shelf in place. Is this a correct assumption?
01-13-2015 12:14 PM
shredd_guy
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Originally Posted by Huklbery View Post
Thanks for your response. I am thinking about using two recovery straps to hold the top transversely, not longitudinally. A short one (a tree protector, probably) would wrap around the tongue at the front and a long one would wrap around near the back. The lift cables would be attached to the loops at the ends of the recovery straps.
that's a good idea although it might be tuff to get it under the back side?? I wonder if a criss cross would work?
01-12-2015 07:15 AM
Huklbery
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Originally Posted by Wallyjj View Post
The cables hook to it but I suppose you could devise a way to hook the cables to something else that fits your needs. Just understand that you need to add some sort of weight or tension so that the cables wind properly.
Thanks for your response. I am thinking about using two recovery straps to hold the top transversely, not longitudinally. A short one (a tree protector, probably) would wrap around the tongue at the front and a long one would wrap around near the back. The lift cables would be attached to the loops at the ends of the recovery straps.
01-11-2015 06:16 PM
Wallyjj
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Originally Posted by Huklbery View Post
Can anyone who has installed the Racor lift tell me if the lift can be used without the steel shelf?
The cables hook to it but I suppose you could devise a way to hook the cables to something else that fits your needs. Just understand that you need to add some sort of weight or tension so that the cables wind properly.
01-11-2015 02:53 PM
Huklbery
Shelf Necessary?

Can anyone who has installed the Racor lift tell me if the lift can be used without the steel shelf?
01-03-2015 12:28 PM
Y-Guy
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Originally Posted by gratone1 View Post
Does anyone have any thought or reviews on the Lane Hoist-A-Top you can get at Quadratec?
My thoughts are
1) Why Spend more? Racor runs about $140 you can find it at Lowes, HD or WM.
2) Extra Storage on top w/Racor rack
3) You can probably find other threads with the Lange in it, but you'll find most Racor racks/owners in this thread.
01-02-2015 02:54 PM
gratone1 This has been a great thread seeing that my next purchase is a hoist for my top. Does anyone have any thought or reviews on the Lane Hoist-A-Top you can get at Quadratec?
07-19-2014 06:26 PM
JavaJeep
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Originally Posted by Y-Guy View Post
Between the top mount pulleys and the Eye bolts there is probably 4" of unmovable hardware. Between the two there are two sets of cable clamps where the cable is looped around. You should be able to change this and cut that down to a couple of inches. I did not like the nuts that came mounted on the sets of cable clamps, if I tightened much more they would slip. I'd change those out and I think you'd be good go.

All in all, I think you can meet your 9" requirement. Posting a couple photos that might help you to visually see the setup I have.


Thanks Y-Guy! Good suggestions.
07-18-2014 06:28 PM
MikeJeep My garage has a 10' ceiling and I had LOTS of space.

07-18-2014 03:48 PM
Y-Guy
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Originally Posted by JavaJeep View Post
Can anyone with a Racor tell me the minimum distance from the ceiling to the top of the hard top?
Between the top mount pulleys and the Eye bolts there is probably 4" of unmovable hardware. Between the two there are two sets of cable clamps where the cable is looped around. You should be able to change this and cut that down to a couple of inches. I did not like the nuts that came mounted on the sets of cable clamps, if I tightened much more they would slip. I'd change those out and I think you'd be good go.

All in all, I think you can meet your 9" requirement. Posting a couple photos that might help you to visually see the setup I have.


07-18-2014 01:34 PM
JavaJeep
Bump: Q re: Racor Lift - how close to garage ceiling?

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Originally Posted by Sucker Punch View Post
The ceiling in my garage is 9 1/2 ft. Will this setup work ok or would I be better off with the Harken? I want to be able to get the hardtop as high as possible off the ground. I am leaning toward this setup and I'm ready to pull the trigger on something.
Thanks!
I'm torn between the Racor and the Harken. The Harken would likely be best, but for the angle and distance I would need to install the block and tackle to my "front" wall.

My issue/concern with the Racor is how high can I get the hard top? My ceiling is 9'. Can anyone with a Racor tell me the minimum distance from the ceiling to the top of the hard top? I think I need to get the top about 9" from the ceiling if I want to walk under the HT without banging my head (i'm 6' tall). Looks like a heavy lean to the Harken with some modifications.

Any suggestions are welcome and appreciated!
05-24-2014 08:33 PM
tx2whlr
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Originally Posted by Sucker Punch View Post
The ceiling in my garage is 9 1/2 ft. Will this setup work ok or would I be better off with the Harken? I want to be able to get the hardtop as high as possible off the ground. I am leaning toward this setup and I'm ready to pull the trigger on something. Thanks!
I'm in the same boat as you, so far it looks like the harken will lift the highest as long as you mount the pulleys wider than the width of the top so it can fit between them.
The one caveat with the harken is the pulley that allows you to pull the rope down must be mounted to a wall not the ceiling and the top must be at least the distance from the wall as the amount you want to raise the top.
I too was about to buy something and pretty much decided on the harken until I watched their YouTube video. In the video you'll notice how the top is hanging in the middle of the garage, this allows room for their multiplier to travel back and forth along the ceiling. I made a phone call to harken and one of their techs verified this, he recommended 5-6 ft off the wall the pulley mounts to.
Just another thing to consider before you pull the trigger.
05-24-2014 04:51 PM
Sucker Punch The ceiling in my garage is 9 1/2 ft. Will this setup work ok or would I be better off with the Harken? I want to be able to get the hardtop as high as possible off the ground. I am leaning toward this setup and I'm ready to pull the trigger on something.
Thanks!
04-27-2014 10:17 AM
tribangle
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Originally Posted by BostonStrong77 View Post
looks good! Did you weave the ratchet strap through the lift?
. Thanks to this forum and thread I most certainly did. Y-Guy, thank you!
04-27-2014 09:39 AM
BostonStrong77
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Originally Posted by tribangle View Post
Today was the day. Thanks to everyone in this thread with your helpful suggestions!!
looks good! Did you weave the ratchet strap through the lift?
04-27-2014 04:15 AM
Y-Guy
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Originally Posted by tribangle View Post
Today was the day. Thanks to everyone in this thread with your helpful suggestions!!
Looks good! Congrats!!!
04-26-2014 09:35 PM
tribangle Today was the day. Thanks to everyone in this thread with your helpful suggestions!!
03-15-2014 06:05 PM
Denizen of the Deep
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Originally Posted by Denizen of the Deep View Post

I think people are drilling second holes in the 2 support beams that the wire cage rests on. I didn't, the u hooks hold well enough for me. I really like this unit.
I meant j hooks.
03-15-2014 01:46 PM
Denizen of the Deep
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Originally Posted by BostonStrong77 View Post
Not to sound like a total noob, but what's the deal with the U Bolts? From reading the thread it sounds like the bolts you get with the system are weak, but where are the new U bolts going? Thanks.
I think people are drilling second holes in the 2 support beams that the wire cage rests on. I didn't, the u hooks hold well enough for me. I really like this unit.
03-15-2014 11:36 AM
BostonStrong77 Not to sound like a total noob, but what's the deal with the U Bolts? From reading the thread it sounds like the bolts you get with the system are weak, but where are the new U bolts going? Thanks.
03-04-2014 07:38 AM
Denizen of the Deep
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Originally Posted by Y-Guy View Post
Good deal, hopefully you can finally get it installed. Not good packaging on their end. The one thing you might consider is swapping out the nuts on the wire rope clips as I tightened a couple I wasn't thrilled how a few of them didn't lock in tight.
I'll look at those too, I am using bigger lag screws also.
03-03-2014 02:41 PM
Y-Guy Good deal, hopefully you can finally get it installed. Not good packaging on their end. The one thing you might consider is swapping out the nuts on the wire rope clips as I tightened a couple I wasn't thrilled how a few of them didn't lock in tight.
03-03-2014 01:24 PM
Denizen of the Deep Called Racor, they are sending out a replacement part tomorrow.
03-02-2014 07:58 PM
Denizen of the Deep I'll give that a try this time.
03-02-2014 07:39 PM
Y-Guy This time try calling Racor and see if they will send you a replacement part, might be quicker.
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