Jeep Wrangler Forum - Reply to Topic
Jeep Wrangler Forum

Go Back   Jeep Wrangler Forum > TJ Jeep Wrangler Forum > TJ General Discussion Forum > Parking a Stick Shift

Join Wrangler Forum Today


Thread: Parking a Stick Shift Reply to Thread
Title:
  
Message:
Post Icons
You may choose an icon for your message from the following list:
 

Register Now

In order to be able to post messages on the Jeep Wrangler Forum forums, you must first register.
Please enter your desired user name, your email address and other required details in the form below.
User Name:
If you do not want to register, fill this field only and the name will be used as user name for your post.
Password
Please enter a password for your user account. Note that passwords are case-sensitive.
Password:
Confirm Password:
Email Address
Please enter a valid email address for yourself.
Email Address:

Log-in

Human Verification

In order to verify that you are a human and not a spam bot, please enter the answer into the following box below based on the instructions contained in the graphic.



Additional Options
Miscellaneous Options

Topic Review (Newest First)
01-15-2011 05:45 AM
john97TJ I always park mine in first gear and yank that e-brake...better to be safe than watch your jeep ghost-ride itself
01-15-2011 01:16 AM
NEWWRANGLEROLDCJ7 taken from owners manual, cut and pasted for your viewing pleasure

PARKING BRAKE
Before leaving the vehicle, make sure that the parking brake is fully applied. Also, be certain to leave an automatic transmission in PARK, or manual transmission in REVERSE or first gear.

When parking on a hill, it is important to turn the front wheels toward the curb on a downhill grade and away from the curb on an uphill grade. For vehicles equipped with an automatic transmission, apply the parking brake before placing the shift lever in PARK, otherwise the load on the transmission locking mechanism may make it difficult to move the shift lever out of PARK. The parking brake should always be applied whenever the driver is not in the vehicle.
01-06-2011 03:32 PM
jiminmanjr So, it sounds like everyone has a philosophy on parking a five-speed... but the main thing is the emergency brake should be used regularly.
01-06-2011 04:50 AM
HyperBuzzin
Quote:
Originally Posted by mtbikbob View Post
If your hand brake is not working then your brakes need adjusting. Not your hand brake. Your hand brake is a good indicator if your brakes need adjustment, so that would be a good reason to use it when parking.
That is assuming there are drum brakes in the rear.
Rear disc brakes have a seperate pad for the hand/emergency/parking brake.
01-06-2011 02:44 AM
MBLG I use the hand brake when parking all the time out of habit, along with leaving it in first gear. There is no reason to not use it, only reasons why you said use it.
01-06-2011 12:19 AM
BigEZ
Quote:
Originally Posted by Gorving3 View Post
Question for the group. Since the OP states that lately the brake peddle doesn't go down till the engine is started, shouldn't the vacuum system hold enough vacuum for 2-3 peddle pushes? If this is the case is it possible the OP may have a vacuum leak in his system someplace
that sensation is normal for power brakes w/ the engine off, with any vehicle.
01-05-2011 11:33 PM
Firemangully Two systems are better than 1 when it comes to safety.

I use both
01-05-2011 10:32 PM
Gorving3 Question for the group. Since the OP states that lately the brake peddle doesn't go down till the engine is started, shouldn't the vacuum system hold enough vacuum for 2-3 peddle pushes? If this is the case is it possible the OP may have a vacuum leak in his system someplace?

My auxilliary brake system for the Jeep says to press the brake peddle 2-3 times after hooking up and turning off the engine. Guess its not suppose to work with any vacuum assist.
01-05-2011 10:19 PM
nick50471 Use e-brake and turn tires to face the curb.
01-05-2011 10:12 PM
robbiecc if flat(which most of it is around here) i use the e brake. if other than flat, e brake and 'R'. I do have a ?? for those that always park in gear-if you live in the north, how do you warm up your jeep-sit in it? I warm mine up 10 min every morning, and i'd be damned if i'm going to sit in it while it warms up. warm up is as much for me as it is the jeep.
01-05-2011 09:57 PM
NEWWRANGLEROLDCJ7 I always leave a standard/ manual vehicle in reverse and with the e brake on when ever I park it, hill or flat, always that's what my old pappy tough me learning to drive in my old cj7 and that's how I do it.
01-05-2011 09:30 PM
OlYellerTJ
Quote:
Originally Posted by jiminmanjr View Post
I have a 2003 Wrangler five-speed. It's awesome.

When I park - at home, work, out running around - I put the Jeep in first gear and turn it off. I never use the emergency brake, except if I'm on a hill, or if I leave the Jeep running for a minute or two...
Is there any reason to change what I am doing? I've been doing it this way for five years, and with previous stick shifts I owned as well. It's just that my Jeep will be paid off within a few months (my first paid-off car since age 17), and I want to keep it going as long as possible.
I'm guessing they don't teach this in drivers' ed anymore...

1) E-brake: use it or lose it. Actually, my Dad gave me this bit of wisdom. One of my younger brothers learned this the hard way when his e-brake cable rusted. He actually remembered to use it (once?) but it wouldn't release when it was time for him to go. The engine was only strong enough to overcome the brake driving in reverse. That was expensive...

2) With a manual trann'y, ALWAYS use the e-brake. Imagine what might happen if it slipped out of gear. How far and in what direction might it roll? And turn the wheels hard over when parked on a hill: into the curb facing down-hill, away from the curb facing up-hill.

Come to think of it, use the e-brake with auto trannies, too; see #1 above. That and there is only one little pawl between your vehicle and a runaway...
From the Wiki:
The parking pawl locks the transmission's output shaft to the transmission casing by engaging a pawl (a pin) that engages in a notched wheel on the shaft, stopping it (and thus the driven wheels) from rotating.
Most vehicle manufacturers and auto mechanics do not recommend using the transmission's parking pawl as the sole means of securing a parked vehicle, instead recommending it should only be engaged after first applying the vehicle's parking brake. Constant use of only the parking pawl, especially when parking on a steep incline, means that driveline components, and transmission internals, are kept constantly under stress, and can cause wear and eventual failure of the parking pawl or transmission linkage. The pawl might also fail or break if the vehicle is pushed with sufficient force, if the parking brake is not firmly engaged. Replacement can be an expensive operation since it generally requires removing the transmission from the car.
01-05-2011 08:09 PM
neverfastenough1
Quote:
Originally Posted by BigEZ View Post
also, if you leave it in gear only (no p-brake) and it gets rear-ended, could it not push-start itself and keep going? or would the fact that the ignition switch is off keep that from happening? or am i just drunk and being retarded? quite possible.
Good point. It won't start, but it will push into the car in front of it a lot easier than if the hand brake was on. Any good lawyer could then put the responsibility of the front end damage and the damage of the car yours hits on you since the owners manual says to use the handbrake. Old habits, and what you were taught by example, are hard to break, though.
01-05-2011 08:02 PM
jasonwrangler
Quote:
Originally Posted by neverfastenough1 View Post
I remember once, my son asked me why I don't use the parking break. I told him I never did, I just leave it in gear (first gear). We went to Waffle House a few weeks later for breakfast. As soon as we got seated at a table, a couple came in and asked who's red Mustang was outside. I said mine, and they said it rolled back into the driveway. Good thing, aside from not hitting anything, was it was uphill both ways from where it stopped because a little further, and it would have been in a ditch. So, even after 20+ years of not using the parking brake, it only took one time of thinking I had it in gear to make me use it every time now. As far as which gear, guess what, there is no lever inside the engine to stop it from turning backwards. So, reverse or first the engine can turn either way, especially if the compression leaks down. Use your parking brake! And for the owners manual, it says to always use the handbrake, and to use first gear when parking on a hill.
Id use both on a hill. I only leave it in gear when its flat.
also if you do park on hill, turn the wheels towards the curb so if it do roll, the tire would be against the curb.
01-05-2011 08:01 PM
Beachcomber I always leave it in first no ebrake unless I'm on a hill then I use the ebrake along with keeping in gear. I was tought to do this when I was learning to drive and have been doing it for next 40+years.
01-05-2011 08:01 PM
jasonwrangler
Quote:
Originally Posted by BigEZ View Post
also, if you leave it in gear only (no p-brake) and it gets rear-ended, could it not push-start itself and keep going? or would the fact that the ignition switch is off keep that from happening? or am i just drunk and being retarded? quite possible.
the injectors are off when the ignition is off.
01-05-2011 07:45 PM
BigEZ also, if you leave it in gear only (no p-brake) and it gets rear-ended, could it not push-start itself and keep going? or would the fact that the ignition switch is off keep that from happening? or am i just drunk and being retarded? quite possible.
01-05-2011 07:41 PM
neverfastenough1 I remember once, my son asked me why I don't use the parking break. I told him I never did, I just leave it in gear (first gear). We went to Waffle House a few weeks later for breakfast. As soon as we got seated at a table, a couple came in and asked who's red Mustang was outside. I said mine, and they said it rolled back into the driveway. Good thing, aside from not hitting anything, was it was uphill both ways from where it stopped because a little further, and it would have been in a ditch. So, even after 20+ years of not using the parking brake, it only took one time of thinking I had it in gear to make me use it every time now. As far as which gear, guess what, there is no lever inside the engine to stop it from turning backwards. So, reverse or first the engine can turn either way, especially if the compression leaks down. Use your parking brake! And for the owners manual, it says to always use the handbrake, and to use first gear when parking on a hill.
01-05-2011 05:58 PM
InvertChaos I believe the owners manual in my 04 says to leave it in 1rst gear AND use the parking brake. That's what I do anyways. That way if one fails the other should hold.
01-05-2011 05:48 PM
MikeMTJ I'm curious if your owners manual addresses this. I'd give it a look.
01-05-2011 05:32 PM
25172021k What about in freezing temps? I have heard of the e brake not releasing even though the handle is releases causing brake problems.
01-05-2011 05:28 PM
BigEZ
Quote:
Originally Posted by ScorpioScotty View Post
Someone will probably make a comment that it shouldn't turn over without pushing in the clutch..... not sure if that was an option on the 92.... but it doesn't work if it was.
haha, that's actually a popular mod (making it so you don't need clutch to start.) I don't know about a 92 YJ but my 93 XJ didn't need the clutch depressed to start.

as stated in my earlier reply, don't count on the P-brake alone to keep your vehicle in check. Your brakes can get out of adjustment in a hurry, and then you'll be like me and find your vehicle at the bottom of the hill...or worse.

Use both P-brake and leave it in gear to be safe.
01-05-2011 05:09 PM
Jpatton Always use your e brake when parking.
01-05-2011 05:00 PM
URascal If you park with the transmission in gear, you are depending on the compression in the engine to hold the Jeep. Therefore, if you are facing downhill and park in 1st gear, your compression, over a period of time, could 'leak down' thereby letting the Jeep 'inch' forward. If you are on a hill, ass end down, and you park with the tranny in reverse, same thing. So, if you are facing downhill, park with your transmission in reverse, if you are ass down the hill, park in 1st. I have parked manual transmission vehicles in 3rd or 4th gear and watched as they slowly roll down the hill.
01-05-2011 04:27 PM
jasonwrangler
Quote:
Originally Posted by 2004tj View Post
I only use my e-brake. It will hold on anything, especially after adjusting it perfectly. It's very easy to do and well worth it, Being that leaving it in gear causes for some minor wear.
well, I avoid using handbrake because it gets freezing here and I dont want stuck brakes in the morning.
01-05-2011 03:52 PM
2004tj I only use my e-brake. It will hold on anything, especially after adjusting it perfectly. It's very easy to do and well worth it, Being that leaving it in gear causes for some minor wear.
01-05-2011 03:31 PM
ScorpioScotty I always use the parking brake.... keeps the son from running over things when he starts the jeep..... 16 and forgets to push in the clutch first... Kids!

Someone will probably make a comment that it shouldn't turn over without pushing in the clutch..... not sure if that was an option on the 92.... but it doesn't work if it was.
01-05-2011 03:03 PM
mtbikbob
Quote:
Originally Posted by jasonwrangler View Post
supposed to use both, but handbrakes are useless on wranglers anyway.
If your hand brake is not working then your brakes need adjusting. Not your hand brake. Your hand brake is a good indicator if your brakes need adjustment, so that would be a good reason to use it when parking.
01-05-2011 02:56 PM
jasonwrangler
Quote:
Originally Posted by knnphillips View Post
How does a parking brake help with holding the clutch?
no idea. maybe he meant holding the brakes.
01-05-2011 02:38 PM
knnphillips
Quote:
Originally Posted by Simplegreenvr6
Out of habit I always set the parking brake. Even in the GF's GC, I will pull it up a few clicks when we park. I set the parking brake at a stop light too if the light takes a while and I don't wanna hold in the clutch. Like someone else said, rather safe and sorry.
How does a parking brake help with holding the clutch?
This thread has more than 30 replies. Click here to review the whole thread.

Posting Rules
You may post new threads
You may post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 07:50 PM.



Jeep®, Wrangler, Liberty, Wagoneer, Cherokee, and Grand Cherokee are copyrighted and trademarked to Chrysler Motors LLC.
Wranglerforum.com is not in any way associated with the Chrysler Motors LLC