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01-11-2011 10:53 AM
JRose73
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Originally Posted by MTH View Post
Here: (Jeep Parts - The Official Jeep Parts eStore offered by Chrysler)

Select "2010" then "Wrangler 2-door" or "Wrangler 4-door," and then search within the selection for "Islander." It's the only item that comes up, and is listed at $71.10.

Thanks!!
01-11-2011 10:12 AM
trentsjk
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Originally Posted by John412 View Post
That price on the sport is good. I bought a 2010 sport for 21800 and that was about the going price in my area. It's the basic package but that's what me ad alot of people wanted because your not wasting money on useless power stuff, navigation and painted fender flares and saving literally 5000+ dollars. Take the cheapest sport you can find and make it your own if that's what you really want. Unless you have a rubicon package there basically all the same off road other than gearing and tires. The tires you can easily upgrade and the gearing is not crucial unless you are doing serious crawling If you plan on going wheeling often just get a rubi and be done with it. The rest is "luxury" trim and stuff.

X2 the best way to go at imop, people are selling rubi parts all the time after they up grade. or you can just get the after market stuff you want and you will be spending a lot less than others. Its what I am doing.
01-11-2011 09:27 AM
MTH
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Originally Posted by JRose73 View Post
Does anyone know where to purchase the Islander tire cover?? I've searched a little bit and haven't found one.
Here: (Jeep Parts - The Official Jeep Parts eStore offered by Chrysler)

Select "2010" then "Wrangler 2-door" or "Wrangler 4-door," and then search within the selection for "Islander." It's the only item that comes up, and is listed at $71.10.
01-11-2011 07:43 AM
JRose73 Does anyone know where to purchase the Islander tire cover?? I've searched a little bit and haven't found one.
01-11-2011 07:01 AM
MTH
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Originally Posted by pato1031
According to the build sheets from a couple of in stock units the suspension is different. The codes for the indivudual springs are the same but the term "performance suspension" on the islander leads me to believe the islander and mountain are not exactly the same. Will have to ask my new Chrysler rep tomorrow when he comes in.
Thanks Pato. If it helps I can toss you my VIN.
01-10-2011 10:41 PM
pat@fieldsauto.com According to the build sheets from a couple of in stock units the suspension is different. The codes for the indivudual springs are the same but the term "performance suspension" on the islander leads me to believe the islander and mountain are not exactly the same. Will have to ask my new Chrysler rep tomorrow when he comes in.
01-10-2011 09:51 PM
Don M
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Originally Posted by dfwislander View Post
Not sure, but would be surprised frankly if it didn't. The mountain had an additional feature the islander didn't but what that is escapes my memory now.
the additional feature the mountain has compared to the islanders is the power convenience group. thats why the mountain package is $4110.00 and the island package is $3305.00. now to the island add the power convenience group (which is included on my island) for another $585.00.
the mountian package actually costs $220.00 more than the island

but for that $220 you get, a nicer logo on the seats, slightly nice decals, the fuel filter door, a gray grill and some tail light guards.

don
01-10-2011 09:30 PM
dfwislander
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Originally Posted by MTH

That's interesting with the islander. Jeep's website makes no mention of it. Are you guys also saying that the mountain comes with it?
Not sure, but would be surprised frankly if it didn't. The mountain had an additional feature the islander didn't but what that is escapes my memory now.
01-10-2011 09:09 PM
Don M
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Originally Posted by MTH View Post
Paging Pato!!

I'd of course be pleased if I do in fact have the performance suspension. Odd though that this wasn't put front and center by Jeep at least for the mountain--for example, it's not shown on my window sticker. I have my doubts.

In any event, the Sahara definitely does NOT come with it standard. If the price is close, I'm not sure why you'd go with the Sahara. Sahara's are great of course, but the suspension and hardtop alone would make the islander worthwhile under your circumstances.
i've asked Pato to join us.

its on the window sticker of this islander.

as far as the sahara, it comes with just the hard top, but its msrp at $29385 compared to $28575 for the islander and think i can buy either for about the same money but someone would have to convince me that the painted fenders look good and leather seats are a jeep thing.

the islander is stone white and the sahara is mango.

don
01-10-2011 08:47 PM
MTH
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Originally Posted by Don M

according to this web site both the island and the mountain do with either transmission,

#1 Quick Order Pkg, Islander 23Y, the 6 speed manual
#2 Quick Order Pkg, Mountain 23X, the 6 speed manual
#3 Quick Order Pkg, Islander 24Y, 4 speed auto
#4 Quick Order Pkg, Mountain 24X, 4 speed auto

2010 Jeep Wrangler Unlimited Sport 4WD 4Dr SUV Packages | New 2010 Jeep Wrangler Unlimited Sport 4WD 4Dr Sport Utility Package Options & Optional Equipment at IntelliChoice.com

don

ps: watch........................
after all this research i'll end up buying the sahara. lol
Paging Pato!!

I'd of course be pleased if I do in fact have the performance suspension. Odd though that this wasn't put front and center by Jeep at least for the mountain--for example, it's not shown on my window sticker. I have my doubts.

In any event, the Sahara definitely does NOT come with it standard. If the price is close, I'm not sure why you'd go with the Sahara. Sahara's are great of course, but the suspension and hardtop alone would make the islander worthwhile under your circumstances.
01-10-2011 08:37 PM
Don M
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Originally Posted by MTH View Post
That's interesting with the islander. Jeep's website makes no mention of it. Are you guys also saying that the mountain comes with it?
according to this web site both the island and the mountain do with either transmission,

#1 Quick Order Pkg, Islander 23Y, the 6 speed manual
#2 Quick Order Pkg, Mountain 23X, the 6 speed manual
#3 Quick Order Pkg, Islander 24Y, 4 speed auto
#4 Quick Order Pkg, Mountain 24X, 4 speed auto

2010 Jeep Wrangler Unlimited Sport 4WD 4Dr SUV Packages | New 2010 Jeep Wrangler Unlimited Sport 4WD 4Dr Sport Utility Package Options & Optional Equipment at IntelliChoice.com

don

ps: watch........................
after all this research i'll end up buying the sahara. lol
01-10-2011 08:16 PM
MTH
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Originally Posted by Don M

you have the performance suspension along with a manual trans.

the 24x is for the auto with the performance suspension.
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Originally Posted by dfwislander

It does indeed have the upgraded suspension
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Originally Posted by dfwislander

When you add the "islander" package, the suspension is included in that
That's interesting with the islander. Jeep's website makes no mention of it. Are you guys also saying that the mountain comes with it?
01-10-2011 08:02 PM
dfwislander
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Originally Posted by MTH

Before any options are added, there's only a few hundred bucks between them.

In any event, I don't think it comes standard with the Islander either. Check this out (Jeep - Compare Vehicle and Model Specifications - Highlights) and compare the Mountain, Islander, and Rubicon. Only the Rubicon lists a "performance suspension" as an "Additional Feature."

I think the performance suspension on the Islander found by the OP was probably added by the dealer after it pulled off that same suspension to lift a Rubi on its lot. Could have been added by Chrysler too I suppose, though it wasn't an "option" you could select select on a "build you own" Mountain online.
When you add the "islander" package, the suspension is included in that
01-10-2011 08:01 PM
dfwislander
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Originally Posted by BlackMountain
why is the moutain edition sticker price more than the islander if it doesnt come with the suspension?
It does indeed have the upgraded suspension
01-10-2011 06:21 PM
Don M
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Originally Posted by bluefox View Post
The shocks on mine Mountain is black. The window sticker package 23X is $4,005.00
you have the performance suspension along with a manual trans.

the 24x is for the auto with the performance suspension.
01-10-2011 05:43 PM
Don M thats weird, using the above link theres now no way to get the 23y package on that site.



here you can:2010 Jeep Wrangler Unlimited Sport 4WD 4Dr SUV Packages | New 2010 Jeep Wrangler Unlimited Sport 4WD 4Dr Sport Utility Package Options & Optional Equipment at IntelliChoice.com


don
01-10-2011 05:15 PM
Don M
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Originally Posted by MTH View Post
Before any options are added, there's only a few hundred bucks between them.

In any event, I don't think it comes standard with the Islander either. Check this out (Jeep - Compare Vehicle and Model Specifications - Highlights) and compare the Mountain, Islander, and Rubicon. Only the Rubicon lists a "performance suspension" as an "Additional Feature."

I think the performance suspension on the Islander found by the OP was probably added by the dealer after it pulled off that same suspension to lift a Rubi on its lot. Could have been added by Chrysler too I suppose, though it wasn't an "option" you could select select on a "build you own" Mountain online.
the performance suspension was part of the Customer Preferred Package 23Y package from the factory here,

Customer Preferred Package 23Y
BF Goodrich Brand Tires
Cloth Seats with Islander Logo
"Islander" Badge
Islander Package
Leather Steering Wheel with Blue Stitch
LT255/75R17 BSW Off-Road Tires
Slush Mats by Mopar
Performance Suspension
Air Conditioning
Tubular Side Steps
Speed Control

using this pricing page it looks like the only way to ask for the 23y package is to first ask for the lowest priced style.

2010 Jeep Wrangler Sport Price With Options


heres the 23 order package for the mountian, with no mention of the performance suspension.


Quick Order Package 23X Mountain Package
Vehicle with standard equipment; 17" x 7.5" aluminum painted wheels; Air conditioning; BF Good rich brand tires; Black/Mineral Gray front and rear bumpers; Cloth seats with Mountain logo; Deep tint sunscreen windows; Graphite interior vent trim rings; Leather wrapped steering wheel; LT255/75R17 black side-wall off-road tires; Mineral Gray grille; MOPAR black fuel filler door; MOPAR black tail lamp guards; MOPAR mate black hood decal; MOPAR slush mats; Speed control; Tubular side steps; Wrangler Mountain badge

an update, emailed the dealer with my final offer of $24500.00

i guess they don't know what "final" means they came back with $25069.00.

don
01-10-2011 04:16 PM
bflank The BFG tires are almost certainly the MT's, like the Rubicon. Far superior to the on/off road tire that come standard on the Sport. Our 2009 X came with the on/off road tires and we paid the dealer $500 to swap them out for the MT's. If you intend to use your JK offroad the tire choice is obvious MT. If you will be mostly on pavement then the other tires will be a bit quieter.

BTW, the tubular side step on the Islander are fairly useless and possibly a detriment offroad. They do collect mud right handily though.
01-10-2011 04:01 PM
MTH
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Originally Posted by bluefox View Post
The shocks on mine Mountain is black. The window sticker package 23X is $4,005.00
To clarify a Mountain Edition stereotype . . . .

Yes, a Mountain package adds $4k to the cost of the underlying Sport. However, people are often unaware that this includes a lot of commonly added upgrades like power windows, power locks, side steps, upgraded wheels, Rubi tires, etc.

If you would have added these features to your Sport anyway, then the Mountain package really only adds about $1000 to the cost of the Jeep. That extra $1000 gets you the items typically associated with the Mountain Edition, such as different seat covers, the hood decals, a grey grille, a black gas cap cover, tail light guards, slush mats, etc.

I only mention this because I often hear that Mountain and Islander owners paid $4000 "for stickers," or that for "almost the same amount" they could have bought a similarly equipped Rubi. Neither of these claims is correct.

BTW, nice Jeep bluefox.
01-10-2011 03:24 PM
bluefox The shocks on mine Mountain is black. The window sticker package 23X is $4,005.00
01-10-2011 03:05 PM
AgtSunshine If my memory serves correctly, both Islander and Mountain have the Rubi suspension...just not the drive components.

Look under a a new Sport, Sahara and Rubi. The Rubi will have RED shocks (Heavy Duty). The others will not.

What color are the shocks on the Mountain and Islander? If RED, then you have your answer.
01-10-2011 01:55 PM
MTH
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Originally Posted by BlackMountain View Post
why is the moutain edition sticker price more than the islander if it doesnt come with the suspension?
Before any options are added, there's only a few hundred bucks between them.

In any event, I don't think it comes standard with the Islander either. Check this out (Jeep - Compare Vehicle and Model Specifications - Highlights) and compare the Mountain, Islander, and Rubicon. Only the Rubicon lists a "performance suspension" as an "Additional Feature."

I think the performance suspension on the Islander found by the OP was probably added by the dealer after it pulled off that same suspension to lift a Rubi on its lot. Could have been added by Chrysler too I suppose, though it wasn't an "option" you could select select on a "build you own" Mountain online.
01-10-2011 01:42 PM
BlackMountain why is the moutain edition sticker price more than the islander if it doesnt come with the suspension?
01-10-2011 01:36 PM
MTH
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Originally Posted by BlackMountain View Post
does the mountain edition come with this suspension too?
Nobody ever seems sure of this. I don't believe mine did--my window sticker makes no mention of it and I don't think Chrysler's in the habit of giving "freebies."

However, I just saw in another post that somebody found a "Rubicon take off" suspension (which would be the performance suspension) and it was using the same coil springs I have.

I don't know if I've got the gas shocks or not. Probably not, but I don't know how the look of the two types of stock shocks differ, so I haven't really tried to get under my Jeep to look. I've just assumed the answer is "no."
01-10-2011 01:26 PM
BlackMountain does the mountain edition come with this suspension too?
01-10-2011 01:13 PM
Don M thanks for the replies,

my search continues!!

don
01-09-2011 10:07 PM
MTH By the way, as to your original question, "Performance Suspension"=Gas (rather than hydraulic) shocks as well as stiffer coil springs on the front and rear. It's a real improvement, not a made up name.
01-09-2011 09:40 PM
dfwislander
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Originally Posted by Don M
heres question 4,

are the seats in the islander the same as the seats in the sport being different only in color and the logo or are they a better quality in comfort and build?

if i could get the islander priced down to say $24,500.00 what would be the better buy the S at $20,500.00 or the islander?

i live in Montana.

don

ps: both are 2 door and both are stick.
If you don't plan to upgrade suspension anytime soon, the upgraded shocks and springs make quite a difference in ride from the sport. Also, the islander has the same BFG mt's as the rubi
01-09-2011 08:51 PM
MTH If you're not going lift it, the suspension and the hardtop justify the price difference.

On top of that, you'll quickly appreciate the uniqueness of your special edition. I've only seen one islander in the five months I've had my Jeep.
01-09-2011 08:32 PM
JeeperJake Don M:
you have picked the same package I intended to buy on a Sport S 4 door. After way too long dickering & driving everybody nuts I ran across a perfect 2 year old with 15000 miles on it for such a spectacular price it must have been waiting for *just*me* to come along.

Having just bought a like-new Sahara I'm partial already to some of those 'frills' I designated at being not interested in a few months ago.

Mine came with a '24G' package I hadn't identified before. There is 'SDUS Heavy Duty Suspension w/Gas Shocks', front & rear stabilizer bars, and 18" wheels I didn't see on the 24S package I thought I was going to buy. It does ride really well for me.

The colored fenders remain the only option it has that I haven't grown fond of yet. Glad I got both tops although probably will never use the soft top.

I don't know anyone who actually speaks highly of the navigation unit. Nor do I care for the little special decals & embroidery on the seats.

Given heavy rain, sleet, snow & temp of below freezing since I purchased, I can barely wait to get at least ONE of the top pieces off and go for a drive about.

Whatever you get, will be more fun than what you've already got regardless of which you choose.
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