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nycom96 07-30-2007 02:27 PM

Body lifts....
 
Are body lifts all that bad as rumored? I wanna do a 3inch but I hear alot from different people saying not to trust them!
Any info is much appreciated:doh:

Levinoss 07-30-2007 02:33 PM

Why not go with a suspension if you want 3 inches?

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Originally Posted by 4x4offroad.com
Body Lift vs. Suspension Lift
Dec 1, 2005
By: ORC STAFF
(by Rick Colombo COLOMBO@fndcd.fnal.gov & Dan Romanenko romanenkod@gtephx.att.com June 1993 )

A suspension lift leaves the body to frame mounting the same. The additional "clearance" arises from the increase distance from the frame to the axles (i.e. when vehicle at rest). The geometry for the drivetrain & steering will be altered.

A body lift has spacers which are inserted between the frame and body. There is no net increase in ground clearance (w/ the same tires before/after body lift). The geometry of the drivetrain / steering is not affected.

A good rule to thumb is to not lift more than you need for tire clearance.


Suspension lift:
- Increases the center of gravity more than body lift (remember the engine/frame is lifted too)
- Suspension/handling performance will change, for the better or worse depends on too many factors to list.
- Avoid blocks, they are dangerous and increase spring wrap.
- You may have problems with:

* - shocks (you usually need longer ones)
* - driveshaft(s) (may not be long enough)
* - transmission/transfer case (may need shims)
* - front-end alignment (may need larger shims)
* - may need *dropped* pitman arm

Body lift:
- The kit is cheap, but there are a few modifications which raise the cost:

* - lowering the radiator (especially if you have a shroud)
* - lowering clutch linkage (for manuals, don't know about automatics)
* - gas filler neck
* - steering column may not extend enough (the gear box is on the frame)
* - brake lines (from the master cylinder to the frame)


~Lev

whiteyj 07-30-2007 02:45 PM

The other interference is the 4-wheel shift handle. The 1" kit I had purchased has an extension section to be welded into the shifter shaft. Opted to go with a 2-1/2" suspension lift instead.

debruins 07-30-2007 02:55 PM

tops on a BL is two inches, you get past that and you need to extend fuel filler lines and things, also it makes it very unsafe in a roll over, the body will rip out from the frame becaasue it has the 3" more of leverage to rip theough the floor boards

nycom96 07-30-2007 03:37 PM

Thanks for the info....I already have a 4inch suspension and I want to go a little bit more higher for cheap

orange05tj 07-30-2007 04:36 PM

just do the SOA. :punk:

abercrombie_fierce 05-02-2009 06:48 PM

Body lifts arent that bad.
 
I dont understand why everyone badmouths body lifts soo much. Ive put a 3" body lift on every vehicle ive ever owned, 88 Ranger, 01 Ranger, 94 Z71, 98 Z71, 95 Chevy 1500 4x2, My friends 96 F150, And they all turned out really good. Yes you have a gap between the rear bumper and tailgate on trucks but its not that unsightly, plus its character. If you just have a jeep that you want to drive to the beach and around town, then a body lift suits your needs, very cheap, very easy to install, the kits come with everything you need, I am in the process of purchasing a YJ just to drive to the beach with my waverunner and i want to put 33"s on it w/out spending much money, so im going to put a 3" body lift and 1" shackles on front , and 1/2" shackles in back to level it out. After all the chrysler dealership down the street actually had 3" bodylifts installed from the factory on some of the TJ's a couple years back. None had suspension. But if you offroad at all, then i guess a susp. lift will be the better bet. Sorry to offend anyone

dooder 05-02-2009 07:26 PM

I dont care what anyone thinks. I have made my own body lift from hockey pucks on my old k5 and it was great. It was only 1 inch=2 pucks stacked. They are easy to drill and dont shift, break, or make any noise. gonna go to the local rink and get a bucket of old pucks for 5 bucks and replace my torn stock ones on my jeep aswell.:flipoff:

abercrombie_fierce 05-02-2009 07:30 PM

Ive heard someone else do that before , he did it on a old suburban, he also spray painted the back windows black ,

4Jeepn 05-02-2009 07:30 PM

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Originally Posted by abercrombie_fierce (Post 365621)
I dont understand why everyone badmouths body lifts soo much. Ive put a 3" body lift on every vehicle ive ever owned, 88 Ranger, 01 Ranger, 94 Z71, 98 Z71, 95 Chevy 1500 4x2, My friends 96 F150, And they all turned out really good. Yes you have a gap between the rear bumper and tailgate on trucks but its not that unsightly, plus its character. If you just have a jeep that you want to drive to the beach and around town, then a body lift suits your needs, very cheap, very easy to install, the kits come with everything you need, I am in the process of purchasing a YJ just to drive to the beach with my waverunner and i want to put 33"s on it w/out spending much money, so im going to put a 3" body lift and 1" shackles on front , and 1/2" shackles in back to level it out. After all the chrysler dealership down the street actually had 3" bodylifts installed from the factory on some of the TJ's a couple years back. None had suspension. But if you offroad at all, then i guess a susp. lift will be the better bet. Sorry to offend anyone

1.Jeep would never ever install a 3" body lift from the factory, period. The dealer ship may have but not the factory.

2. Those trucks up there are not Jeeps. Different mounts etc, may be able to handle higher stress etc vs the jeep mounts.

dooder 05-02-2009 07:34 PM

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Originally Posted by abercrombie_fierce (Post 365649)
he also spray painted the back windows black ,


He copied that from me too.:rofl:

abercrombie_fierce 05-02-2009 07:36 PM

well i guess it was the dealership, and that would make sense , because the dealership will pay 90$ for a 3" bl and charge 1000$. And i see your point , i was just saying that my jeep is to go to the beach, and maybe down a dirt road every once in a while, so a bl suits me. And the looks dont seem so bad.

abercrombie_fierce 05-02-2009 07:37 PM

are you from newnan , Ga?

dooder 05-02-2009 07:45 PM

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Originally Posted by abercrombie_fierce (Post 365655)
are you from newnan , Ga?

Im not but i met a nice girl from there.

abercrombie_fierce 05-02-2009 07:46 PM

whats her name, newnans really small.

dooder 05-02-2009 07:50 PM

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Originally Posted by abercrombie_fierce (Post 365664)
whats her name, newnans really small.

Hold on, let me check the milk carton.
Nah, im from PA. Just outside Killadelphia. And was just kiddin bout the painted back windows but serious about the hockey pucks.

abercrombie_fierce 05-02-2009 07:51 PM

lol, hey those nylon blocks from performance accessories are crap anyways, i dropped one on the garage floor and chipped a piece off, so i m sure the pucks are just as strong.

dooder 05-02-2009 08:06 PM

We did those nylon blocks years ago to friend's ranger and it was nice but the body was too stiff afterwards. and after a while we would have to retorque the bolts. The other downside was the bumper relocation brackets were just a couple of bars of steel and we couldnt figure out how they went. Ok, we were a bit high :blunt: when we did the install so we just looked at pictures and they didnt make sense. those brackets never did make it onto the ranger.


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