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xloudnproud 07-03-2011 05:16 PM

Regearing Help
 
I just messed up rear diff last night coming home from firework display. Sudden pop from rear while cruising around 50 felt like we hit a dog, following that clicking coming from rear. It is definatly something in rear diff... so instead of going back to the factory 3.73 I want to go to 4.56 what do I need to do and what am I looking at spending? Can I put 4.56 in front and rear axles just as it sits now? btw its a 2000 4.0 5 speed with 33's

furlong24 07-03-2011 07:34 PM

front and rear will be okay to run 4.56. i found it to be like 800 bucks to regear front and back.. well thats what it cost my buddy

kjeeper10 07-03-2011 07:41 PM

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Originally Posted by furlong24
front and rear will be okay to run 4.56. i found it to be like 800 bucks to regear front and back.. well thats what it cost my buddy

Thats cheap. Cost around here is around $1200-$1500. I would recommend a shop that specializes in that type of work.
Plan on lockers? great time to install them also, save some loot in the long run :)

4Jeepn 07-03-2011 07:57 PM

Well for starters what rear axle do you have? I would think long and hard before spending money on the dana 35. Now if ya have the dana 44, then your set.

KRawson 07-03-2011 07:57 PM

Did the same as you, got a regear for 975 parts and labor. So I decided to get chromoly shafts and an ARB installed at the same time. Most shops will charge you about 600-750 each axle. Atleast here in California. I shopped around for awhile and found a guy I could trust and does quality work. btw you will love 4.56. Huge difference especially offroad.

What axles are you running right now?

furlong24 07-03-2011 07:58 PM

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Originally Posted by kjeeper10 (Post 1350597)
Thats cheap. Cost around here is around $1200-$1500. I would recommend a shop that specializes in that type of work.
Plan on lockers? great time to install them also, save some loot in the long run :)

it may of been because he purchased ALOT of parts at the time for his truck.

kjeeper10 07-03-2011 08:06 PM

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Originally Posted by furlong24

it may of been because he purchased alot of parts at the time for his truck.

?? :)

xloudnproud 07-03-2011 11:34 PM

Not sure what axles they are the stock ones 2000 wrangler sahara 4.0 5 speed did they put different ones in different models how can I tell without opening diff cover what I have all I know is the metal tag has 373 front and rear... and by reading how much everyone likes the 456 gears with 33's as long as I been driving it with the 3.73 (which I thought was pretty peppy) it will prolly be like a supercharger feeling getting 4.56 no more downshifting to maintain speed uphill.

xloudnproud 07-03-2011 11:38 PM

and oh yeah this is my daily driver 90% of my miles are highway so Im not trying to go hardcore with all the locker and extra stuff...mainly looking to get back factory power it had with those baby tires

MikeMTJ 07-03-2011 11:40 PM

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Originally Posted by xloudnproud
Not sure what axles they are the stock ones 2000 wrangler sahara 4.0 5 speed did they put different ones in different models how can I tell without opening diff cover what I have all I know is the metal tag has 373 front and rear... and by reading how much everyone likes the 456 gears with 33's as long as I been driving it with the 3.73 (which I thought was pretty peppy) it will prolly be like a supercharger feeling getting 4.56 no more downshifting to maintain speed uphill.

Do you have a plastic or metal fill plug on the diff cover? Do you have rear disk breaks?

xloudnproud 07-03-2011 11:40 PM

the rear end it has now has the little metal tag on it also besides the one stating the gear ratio... hard to read but it can make out slip so is this limited slip? and what does that tell anyone else about what I have that is currently clicking and broken?

xloudnproud 07-03-2011 11:41 PM

rear disc brakes and metal front and rear drain plugs

MikeMTJ 07-03-2011 11:55 PM

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Originally Posted by xloudnproud
rear disc brakes and metal front and rear drain plugs

You have a D44 rear axle. Check the tag to make sure. I wouldn't hesitate to regear it.

xloudnproud 07-04-2011 12:03 AM

Yes I went and looked at the different dana axles and mine looks identical to a dana 44 so thats what i have in the rear

xloudnproud 07-04-2011 12:11 AM

ok... I now know we have a d44 in rear with limited slip and a 35 up front with 3.73's since not a hardcore offroader or crawler Im simply wanting to regear to 4.56...when doing this do I need to buy a new limited slip for the rear is this a locker. can someone please make me a list so I can calc up some $ figures such as gears, carrier (if needed), bearings...

furlong24 07-04-2011 12:18 AM

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Originally Posted by kjeeper10 (Post 1350632)
?? :)

haha what?

xloudnproud 07-04-2011 12:32 AM

Found a kit on ebay for dana 44 4.56 gears and rebuild master kit and dana 35 4.56 and master rebuild kit about $550 hows that sound and would anything else be needed besides labor

Scoob 07-04-2011 12:34 AM

You have a Dana 30 front, not a 35.

xloudnproud 07-04-2011 12:54 AM

yeah yeah thats what i ment sorry a 30

XJ Knight 07-04-2011 12:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Scoob (Post 1351062)
You have a Dana 30 front, not a 35.

^ this

xloudnproud 07-04-2011 11:15 AM

Anyone got a list and idea of parts cost I should be looking up to

kjeeper10 07-04-2011 11:21 AM

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Originally Posted by furlong24

haha what?

Did not quite understand you :)

furlong24 07-04-2011 11:59 AM

well he did alot of work at once to his truck..so they kept discounting things cuz he bought so much at once

xloudnproud 07-04-2011 03:37 PM

anyone? parts needed and prices? please

XJ Knight 07-04-2011 04:45 PM

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Originally Posted by xloudnproud (Post 1352026)
anyone? parts needed and prices? please

Sorry for the lack of response. $1200 for parts and labbor give or take a few hundred dollars for regearing the front and rear axles. Be a good time to add a locker if you want one as well


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necromancer_tat 07-04-2011 05:01 PM

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Originally Posted by xloudnproud (Post 1350993)
the rear end it has now has the little metal tag on it also besides the one stating the gear ratio... hard to read but it can make out slip so is this limited slip? and what does that tell anyone else about what I have that is currently clicking and broken?

I'm not sure that your case is the same as mine was, but I had a similar loud "POP" come from my rear axle, followed by "click click click click" as I drove. It turned out I had snapped the cross pin that holds the spider gears in place... a new forged pin instaed of the stock one and I was back on the road with no problems.

kjeeper10 07-04-2011 06:15 PM

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Originally Posted by XJ Knight

Sorry for the lack of response. $1200 for parts and labbor give or take a few hundred dollars for regearing the front and rear axles. Be a good time to add a locker if you want one as well

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Look familiar :)

Earlier post:
Thats cheap. Cost around here is around $1200-$1500. I would recommend a shop that specializes in that type of work.
Plan on lockers? great time to install them also, save some loot in the long run
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xloudnproud 07-04-2011 06:21 PM

so if i was gonna buy gears out right whats the difference in reverse cut straight and all that

97wrangler-242 07-04-2011 07:25 PM

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Originally Posted by xloudnproud
so if i was gonna buy gears out right whats the difference in reverse cut straight and all that

Reverse cut is used in high pinion differentials to keep the pinion running on the strong side of the ring gear. Straight cut gears we don't run in axles but those are just straight 45 degree bevels on each gear, very noisy and not nearly as strong as the spiral gears you'll see in axles. Your Dana 30 and 44 are both standard gears, neither reverse or straight cut.

A good list of parts will b gear sets for front and rear axle, depending on miles you will need a minor or master install kit, and you gear oil. This is the right time to throw a locker n there whether it's a 1000$ arb or 250$ lockright, do a locker now.

Look on eBay and all over the Internet for your gear set. Most of the time you can find them much cheaper. I saw a set of motives for my 9" at 112 on eBay and 176.xx but 449.99 from jegs. Big name catalogs will jack up prices

xloudnproud 07-04-2011 08:58 PM

Thanks for the input will be calling a well known 4x4 shop tomorrow that specailizes in drivelines to get labor charge and their gear prices


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