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CMEvans79 07-10-2011 07:40 AM

Would you trade one for another?
 
Should I trade my "Blue" - a 99, 5 speed, with a 2 inch puck lift and 31's, rubbing issues on the passenger side that we have not been able to find the source of the problem in the 2 years we have had it, soft and hard top for winter(currently the hard top is in the garage), full doors(that come off more than they are on)...
For a Black 02, auto, with 4 inch Skyjacker lift, 33's, soft top, half doors and NO A/C...

Now, I don't use the A/C that much, almost never, but the thought that there is no A/C made my wife cringe when it CAN get into the upper 90's here and muggy heat indexes into the 105 region and we have our two daughters. But some times when the girls are with me I'll be doorless and windowless but have the top up for some shade for them, but I haven't had the A/C on this year yet (Well, it was on by accident one day, girls playing in the jeep turning knobs)

SO - What do you all think?

Irongrave 07-10-2011 09:21 AM

thats a hard one as both have benefits. I would probably get the 02 and keep your hard top

CMEvans79 07-30-2011 12:23 AM

Thanks... any others... this is kinda bumped

GoldenSahara00 07-30-2011 12:36 AM

I most definitely would not trade, I see no advantage to the new one, and plenty to the old. you don't know the quality of the work or problems just waiting to happen on this other jeep.

CMEvans79 07-30-2011 12:53 AM

I test drove the black 02 climbed underneath it turned full turns and went over a couple of parking blocks and no rubbing... in my 99 if I turn when I pull out of my driveway it rubs and im only running 31s... the 02 has 33s! That's my major point... suspension is kinda goofed from previous owner in the 99...

GoldenSahara00 07-30-2011 01:09 AM

Well I am sure that we can easily diagnose the rubbing issue.

I just don't support buying previously modded vehicles. for instance, If I sold you mine. it runs perfectly. but you wouldnt know a few things, such as the fact that one of my rear shocks is held on with a self tapping bolt that somehow wedged into place and defys the laws of physics. so if that someday broke on you, you would wonder why, get to the mechanic and he would tell you there are no threads and the PO drilled out a hole. so he has to run a bolt and nut which turns out to be crazy hard, because he has to jack up the body mounts to get the nut up top, and this all ends up costing you a ton of money in labour.

thats just one example of something that could go wrong. the whole reason I wouldnt buy a used modded jeep.

but if you feel comfortable with it, by all means go for it and try to keep the hardtop.

I think your current jeep would also be more friendly towards your kids, because they will need to be able to get in and out, and the higher you lift the more difficult it will be.

CMEvans79 07-30-2011 01:14 AM

Don't sell me your jeep! LoL ... my kids climb up the tires to get in the back lol... and my rubbing issue was "looked" at by a shop and they said it was mt tires but it only happens on one aide and its not the treads that rub... im going to try and take a pic and see what you think...

GoldenSahara00 07-30-2011 01:16 AM

Luckily your kids are good climbers :P

Haha, well considering I have beat my jeep to death on the trails and that bolt hasnt budged I am not too worried, and if it does I already have a body lift and easy access to fix it :) just being hypothetical.

And either you could get wheel spacers, new wheels, add washers to your steering stops, or get smaller tires. I'll take a look at your picture, my guess is you are rubbing on the control arm.

CMEvans79 07-30-2011 01:26 AM

This is what my passenger side tire rubs on...
http://i262.photobucket.com/albums/i...-16-48_702.jpg
And this is a pic from above ... You can actually see the black mark on my tire that it has made from rubbing, and it only rubs on full turn, but it cut's my turning radius down and I seem to do it a lot...
http://i262.photobucket.com/albums/i...-17-39_390.jpg

GoldenSahara00 07-30-2011 01:34 AM

Huh, thats really funny... that is rubbin on your sway bar bottom link if I am not mistaken. So you cant really move that. I would suggest adding a small washer to each of your steering stops, but at least to the one that will prevent you from turning into it. Your never going to turn past that point anyways. so you might as well prevent further rub. its basically a free mod. I have it done to mine for the time being and you really dont notice during normal driving.

I am thinking that because of your budget boost, it raised your jeep enough to push the axle over to your drivers side. this is putting your passenger tire closer to the jeep, which is why you are rubbing on that spot.

you could buy an adjustable trackbar, or to keep it cheaper drill a hole in the track bar mount up front and move it over. problem is I dont think you have room to do the adjustment you need for your lift. so you would need someone who could weld to put a piece of steel there for reinforcement then drill the hole and center it. I am sure you could go to a shop or a friend ( or a friendly shop if you have one) and they could do that on the cheap for you. maybe 100 at the most. wouldnt take long. depends who you know though how good of a deal you could cut.

The right way to do it would be adjustable track bar but like I said that is gona cost more.

CMEvans79 07-30-2011 01:46 AM

It was rubbing like that BEFORE the budget lift and I thought the lift would fix it... :( I have an "Off road/Jeep" shop in the area, but the guy knows he's one of a kind and is a little more expensive than he should be ... he's also an a$5 because when I called and asked a question about something else he said he wasn't going to tell me anything because if he told me too much I could do it myself ... So I didn't go to him... But I almost think I need to take it up there so that a "Jeep" person actually looks at it and might get it right ... or like you said... just add a washer to the steering stop...

CMEvans79 07-30-2011 01:53 AM

OH yeah, it also rubs here ... I forgot lol
http://i262.photobucket.com/albums/i...r/IMG_2361.jpg
BY THE WAY!!! I have had that bracket replaced since this pic!!

GoldenSahara00 07-30-2011 01:57 AM

well you should still be able to recenter the axle correctly. But anyways, the other problem might be wheels. so getting a wheel spacer will fix it as well. and both rubbings will be fixed either way. but if you rubbed before the lift, than I am guess the axle is okay. so best to go with spacers, propper wheels, or the steering stops. I would do the stops to prevent more damage in the mean time, then buy some spacers. they are not too expensive, around one benjamin.

InfernoGirl 07-30-2011 10:24 AM

Try letting some air out of your tires.... I agree with GS that it's probably just the width of the 10.5's on stock wheels.... A washer or two will fix it. Or different BS on the wheels. Or a different tire that doesn't run quite as wide...

GoldenSahara00 07-30-2011 11:24 AM

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Originally Posted by InfernoGirl (Post 1422450)
Try letting some air out of your tires.... I agree with GS that it's probably just the width of the 10.5's on stock wheels.... A washer or two will fix it. Or different BS on the wheels. Or a different tire that doesn't run quite as wide...

Yes there seems to always be 5 ways to fix a problem when it comes to wranglers :P

jp2611 07-30-2011 11:36 AM

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Originally Posted by GoldenSahara00 (Post 1422553)
Yes there seems to always be 5 ways to fix a problem when it comes to wranglers :P

not fixes for problems---options for MODS!!!!
:):whistling:

GoldenSahara00 07-30-2011 11:40 AM

I guess that is one way to look at it :P

computeruser 07-30-2011 03:27 PM

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Originally Posted by GoldenSahara00 (Post 1421960)
I most definitely would not trade, I see no advantage to the new one, and plenty to the old. you don't know the quality of the work or problems just waiting to happen on this other jeep.

+1. Stick with the one you know already and fix the things on it that need fixing.

CMEvans79 08-07-2011 11:34 PM

I took blu to a dif mechanic and was informed my frame is tweaked and that to fix that would be more than I am willing to spend... I have been looking around at wranglers and this is the best deal around me... thinking of pulling the trigger... a little more research...

CMEvans79 08-08-2011 05:46 PM

Made the decision to go trade Blue in on the 2002 ... they sold it 2 hours before I got there ... guess it wasn't meant to be...


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