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MoA 08-06-2007 11:57 PM

axle trusses
 
i was looking at a weld-on kit from t&t customs.. has anyone else used a similar setup?

http://www.tntcustoms.com/webv5/truss_d30.asp

im not worried about adding one to the d35 because i wanna swap a d44 in the rear.. but im also trying to make my front axle stronger..

4Jeepn 08-07-2007 04:15 AM

What type of wheeling do you see most often and what is your tire size?

MoA 08-07-2007 11:35 AM

a lot of trails.. some are pretty rocky, and other parts are pretty muddy.. i also like to drive through rocky creeks.. and a ton of snow drifting in the winter =D

im getting ready to put 33's on it, i was thinking about adding a back locker, but i might just add one to the front.. also interested in adding a winch (gf might get me one for xmas =X)

also in about a year when i get all tube fenders, i might beef up to 34s

1BLKJP 08-07-2007 04:34 PM

Yes, I have seen two of those. One on a front Dana 44 setup for a TJ and another for a Dana 60 setup for a coilover/link setup. The D60 is actually Hackles on this board. There are plenty of pictures of it floating around.

After seeing them and the beef and the strength they add to an axle along with the fact that you can weld on that truss and some lower control arm mounts to any axle and have it setup for a TJ. I'm very impressed with their construction and price.

4Jeepn 08-07-2007 04:49 PM

with 33's it would most likey not be something you have to have. But for the price and for the peace of mind, I say go for it.

1BLKJP 08-07-2007 04:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 4Jeepn (Post 115544)
with 33's it would most likey not be something you have to have. But for the price and for the peace of mind, I say go for it.

Agreed. Unless you are planning on swapping in a set of different axles. Then I'd say it's a bad ass new product that is going to help make front bracket kits a thing of the past if they stay on top of their game.

MoA 08-07-2007 05:35 PM

alright thanks for the input =D

whenever i order my front tube fenders, ill be adding a front truss to me list =D

AzTJ 08-07-2007 06:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 1BLKJP (Post 115537)
Yes, I have seen two of those. One on a front Dana 44 setup for a TJ and another for a Dana 60 setup for a coilover/link setup. The D60 is actually Hackles on this board. There are plenty of pictures of it floating around.

So the D60 truss Hackle has is by TNT? Thats great! I was thinking something like this for when I want to go to 60's. Will make linking the front really easy. I hope they are working on a rear 60 truss, if not, it shouldn't cost much to have one made then weld on my own mounts.

1BLKJP 08-07-2007 06:37 PM

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Originally Posted by AzTJ (Post 115585)
So the D60 truss Hackle has is by TNT? Thats great! I was thinking something like this for when I want to go to 60's. Will make linking the front really easy. I hope they are working on a rear 60 truss, if not, it shouldn't cost much to have one made then weld on my own mounts.

Yeah, he's not really advertising it much and there were some issues with it as it was the very first one that they built for a D60. But the quality is good and the product is outstanding. Eventhough his previous D60 was stout as a mofo his new one will be virtually bombproof.

MoA 08-07-2007 06:57 PM

hopefully hackle reads this.. i wouldnt mind seeing some pics of it on his axle

1BLKJP 08-07-2007 07:01 PM

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Originally Posted by MoA (Post 115597)
hopefully hackle reads this.. i wouldnt mind seeing some pics of it on his axle

Look towards the end of the "what did you do to your jeep today" thread in the general section. We took some pictures as we were setting it in place with the forklift last weekend. Hackle has also posted some finished pics of the axle in the YJ threads.

Nevermind found it for you. :D http://www.wranglerforum.com/yj-chat...uild-9711.html

Hackle 08-07-2007 11:08 PM

This is the axle set in place to make our final plans.

http://www.hacklesjeep.com/Web%20test%20fit.jpg

http://www.hacklesjeep.com/Light%20poles%20009.JPG

http://www.hacklesjeep.com/Light%20poles%20010.JPG

MoA 08-07-2007 11:11 PM

would i have to change my stock setup to weld one on to my axel?

will it fit with 3'' of lift? also adding a 1.25'' bl

Hackle 08-07-2007 11:29 PM

MoA, To be totally honest as you live in Indiana I see very little reason that you would need that type of a truss. My understanding of your wheeling is a lot up mud, trees, and a few rocks. This type of a truss setup is for high traction/ high flexes areas. With the lift you plan you will not need that truss unless you plan to start progress toward the World Record for Jeep Jumping. I am not trying to burst your bubble! I just hate to see someone waste money on something they do not need.
HTH
Jim

1BLKJP 08-07-2007 11:57 PM

Ha, no kidding Hackle. MoA, if you need to truss your axles for wheelin out there then YOU better be posting some pics of your rig catching serious AIR. :D

But seriously you already have the TJ bracketry on your rig. If you are just looking to strengthen the front axle then maybe look at Blue Torch or someone like that who may make some pieces that you can use just to add to what's already there.

MoA 08-07-2007 11:58 PM

im just looking for a way to add extra strength to my front axle..

i plan on doing a d44 swap in the rear in the next year, just right now dont have the cash to do it as i still got a ton of things i still want to do to my jeep first..

any other suggestions on beefing up my front axle?

ehh =/ ive gotten airborn plenty in my jeep..

coming out of some of the creek beds can get a little fun =D ive slammed down hard on it a few times, broke a sb endlink on it a few times

1BLKJP 08-08-2007 12:03 AM

Since you are saying that you want to do a D44 upgrade for the rear that is where I would start. The rear axle see most of the torque load even in 4wd. If you are serious about some wheelin then getting rid of that D35 is your prime goal in life. :D

For what it's worth the D30 is a pretty good medium duty axle. Have you ever given it any thought of just swapping in a completely new set of axles under your rig? A little width and some more beef wouldn't be a bad thing. It's potentially a long term goal to adressing a couple of your concerns at once.

I wheel my rig pretty hard out here and I've had no problems with the structural integrity of the D30. Now don't get me wrong it is something that I will be getting rid of in the future, but for now it does just fine.

MoA 08-08-2007 12:18 AM

well.. i was thinking about checking out the junkyards here locally.. we got a couple big ones less than 10 miles from my house..

what vehicle should i look into for getting the axles out from under?

i guess if i get them out of a junkyard, i could take my time rebuilding them to install next summer..

i dont think right now i need anything serious.. but might as well do it right the first time and get some heavy duty axles..

i plan on getting a new jeep in 3 years or so, and when i do so, ill be putting like a 5.5'' la lift on my current jeep.. so i plan on running 35s or 36s, i doubt id try for anything bigger.. what would you guys recommend as far as axles?

1BLKJP 08-08-2007 12:27 AM

Ford F150's used to have High Pinion 44 in the front. You can also get a set of Grand Wagoneer D44's. There are so many different combinations you could get it's hard to just flat out put it down in one sitting. In my opinion Pirate is the best place to go for axle swapping in your rig.

debruins 08-08-2007 07:27 AM

ahhhhhhh pirate nooooooooo!

j/k

AzTJ 08-08-2007 03:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 1BLKJP (Post 115734)
In my opinion Pirate is the best place to go for axle swapping in your rig.

Quote:

Originally Posted by debruins (Post 115779)
ahhhhhhh pirate nooooooooo!

If you don't have anything to add to thier forum, or share, don't bother joining. Although it is a great resource for a lot of stuff that we don't talk about here. With all of the reading that I've done over there, I know what I want to do to my TJ in the future :D

This thread has lots of links to very informative builds. It's my upgrade handbook :rofl:


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