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ed0985587 08-12-2011 03:26 AM

Waterspots??
 
Whats the best way you've found to remove water spots after a wash? Pesky things barely want to come off..

kfdjason7620 08-12-2011 04:21 AM

I had to use the "clay bar" kit to get the spots off of my wife's silver commander, its made by turtle wax, it comes with the "wax stripper" that works GREAT for removing bugs and spots first, then use the claybar, but after you finish, the paint is very smooth, and lastly put some high quality wax on it

kjeeper10 08-12-2011 06:50 AM

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Wax it of coarse and then maintain it with a product like Meguiars quick detailer and a nice soft microfiber cloth :thumb:

oilwell1415 08-12-2011 08:51 AM

My wife and I use Zaino products on all of our cars. We like it the best of all we've tried, but all of the high end stuff works well. It's just a matter of what you prefer. Zaino smells really good, some of the others are pretty nasty smelling.

The best way to not have water spots is to not let it air dry. While you're washing it, make sure it stays wet the whole time. Then when you're finished wipe it dry with a towel, but not just any towel. Use 100% cotton made in the USA towels, they are softer and will work better than imported stuff. Cloth baby diapers work well for this.

The first time you wash it use dish soap (then NEVER use it again) to remove any oily residue or dealer wax that may have built up. Then claybar it to lift out any surface contaminants, and there will be some. The worst is the rail dust from the train ride. These tiny steel flakes will eventually start to rust and give the paint a hazy appearance if there are enough of them. After the claybar treatment start in with your polish/wax of choice.

PM inbound on an unrelated matter.

LaTuFu 08-12-2011 09:01 AM

There are a lot of products out there that will help with the issue.

The best way to prevent it is proper washing techniques.

Water spots occur due to hard water. If you are on a well, you more than likely have very hard water, unless you have some sort of softner setup. Municipal water systems vary greatly on hardness.

Proper wash techniques include: always wash in the shade, only after giving the metal time to cool down. Warm sheet metal and/or direct sunlight are breeding grounds for water spots.

The best "product" out there I have found for prevention is Optimum No Rinse Car Wash ("ONR"). It is a water softener in addition to excellent car wash. It also reduces your water usage, so it is environmentally friendly. I've been using it on my black wrangler unlimited for 6 months. No scratches or swirls, and the only time I get water spots is after a rain if I don't get out there to wipe it down.

My process with ONR is:
1. Rinse off Jeep with water to knock off loose debris (sometimes I will do this at a Car Wash -- Hand wand with rinse only, I never go thru an automatic or use any of the hand wand's soaps or waxes.
2. Wash with ONR. Wipe dry with micro fiber towel.
3. Spray with a spray wax such as Ultima Spray Wax or Turtle Wax ICE.
4. Buff with soft microfiber polishing cloth.

Results:
http://i260.photobucket.com/albums/i...u/IMG_1261.jpg

TheHighLow 08-12-2011 09:17 AM

water spots? lol, its a wrangler:dance::thumb:

Bazzer 08-12-2011 09:41 AM

I live in a hard water area so get water spots after every wash. Meguiars Quick Detailer removes them all after a wash and dry

Taegee2 08-12-2011 09:44 AM

It's a Jeep...it looks better dirty :thumb:

Darker vehicles (expecially black) are notorius for water spots...lighter cars are not so bad. That's why you should dry your car in the shade (quick), and hard water does make it worse.

If you need to remove water spots that have already hardened, you can use a 50/50 mixture of distilled vinegar and water to get rid of it. Just make sure you rewax that spot...or you can buy commercial water spot removers (IMO, use the vinegar/water...it's free since you should aready have it in the kitchen).

Keeping a good coat of wax does help the spots from becoming a permanent addition to your paint over time. You don't need to spend a lot of money on a decent wax...but there are some advantages to the more expensive stuff (and there are a lot of them out there...your choice on brands)...I usually use the Wolfgang products from autogeek on my Vette Z06 for shows.

Here is a pic of the Z after wash, polish, wax (the whole nine yards) with the Wolfgang products (finished off with Wolfgang Fusion Wax/Sealant).

http://i872.photobucket.com/albums/a...6/DSC00605.jpg

bc3_Jeep 08-12-2011 06:31 PM

You people actually WASH your Jeeps?????? I am AGHAST!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Barrie 08-12-2011 06:33 PM

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Originally Posted by bc3_Jeep (Post 1464902)
You people actually WASH your Jeeps?????? I am AGHAST!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

At least once a week, maybe more. :D

Deaf1 08-12-2011 06:48 PM

Ok how do you remove wax that has gotten on fenders & hood latches? I am getting some areas where the wax is showing bad, I want the plastic to get back to black.

ShaunWV 08-12-2011 06:49 PM

I have two black vehicles, and the only surefire way that I have came up with is to never let your vehicle air dry. Keep it wet, dry with a shammy, and then "final dry" with a microfiber towel.

SylvanSahara 08-12-2011 06:55 PM

start w/ a clean car a good wax, dont wash/dry your car in high heat and direct sunlight if at all possible especially w/ dark colors and black. and like mentioned above Meguiars quick detail does a lot of good getting rid of them also. addionally if you hand was at home use a good specific "car wash" soap to wash car not a liquid dish soap or similar, the car wash soap is designed to reduce water spotting. good luck

HillbillyJeeper 08-12-2011 07:33 PM

:nonono::nonono::nonono:Its a JEEP!!!:nonono::nonono::nonono: N'uff said.

JPWheelin 08-12-2011 08:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Bazzer (Post 1463398)
I live in a hard water area so get water spots after every wash. Meguiars Quick Detailer removes them all after a wash and dry

^x2. This or Turtle Wax Ice quick detailer. I found it is too much work to try to dry the jeep. Wash it, let it spot, then use the quick detailer to wash off the spots ;).

kfdjason7620 08-12-2011 08:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Barrie in Utah

At least once a week, maybe more. :D

Hell, I could probably grow corn in my floorboards!!

kjeeper10 08-12-2011 09:15 PM

I love the "it's a jeep" comments :doh:

Yes- I do realize that I'm driving a Jeep, and i I paid close to $25 grand for it. A good wax and the mud just slides right off :thumb:

kjeeper10 08-12-2011 09:18 PM

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Originally Posted by JPWheelin

^x2. This or Turtle Wax Ice quick detailer. I found it is too much work to try to dry the jeep. Wash it, let it spot, then use the quick detailer to wash off the spots ;).

Actually x3 -- me mentioned first :punk:

Great stuff--smells great too :)

HillbillyJeeper 08-12-2011 09:38 PM

Dont want the mud to slide off!!! Muds whats holdin the drivers side fender on!

kjeeper10 08-12-2011 10:28 PM

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Originally Posted by HillbillyJeeper
Dont want the mud to slide off!!! Muds whats holdin the drivers side fender on!

Lol :thumb:

bc3_Jeep 08-13-2011 05:08 PM

Washed my 89YJ TWICE (once because the kids wanted to.....and ONCE because the Canadian Government MADE me)....... damn thing was pissed at me for a month each time.....never ever washed the 75CJ5......have never washed the 95YJ.......or the 82CJ7.......not even if they passed a law requiring it.....

Deaf1 08-13-2011 07:48 PM

OK finally got off my butt and took a couple of pictures.
http://i1113.photobucket.com/albums/...813_163330.jpg http://i1113.photobucket.com/albums/...813_163255.jpg
See the wax that is on the fender flare I am wanting to get that out/off so fenders are just plain black plastic again.

RB-10rubicon 08-14-2011 08:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Deaf1
OK finally got off my butt and took a couple of pictures.

See the wax that is on the fender flare I am wanting to get that out/off so fenders are just plain black plastic again.

You can try simple green . I used it for about 15 years now on about everything .and if your going to wax .do your fender flares first with something like 303 then wax that way if you get wax on it it should be easier to wipe clean

bbtj 08-14-2011 11:53 AM

I thought washing a Jeep voided the warranty, figured Chrysler would consider a "modification."

matthew87 08-14-2011 04:18 PM

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Originally Posted by LaTuFu (Post 1463334)
There are a lot of products out there that will help with the issue.

The best way to prevent it is proper washing techniques.

Water spots occur due to hard water. If you are on a well, you more than likely have very hard water, unless you have some sort of softner setup. Municipal water systems vary greatly on hardness.

Proper wash techniques include: always wash in the shade, only after giving the metal time to cool down. Warm sheet metal and/or direct sunlight are breeding grounds for water spots.

The best "product" out there I have found for prevention is Optimum No Rinse Car Wash ("ONR"). It is a water softener in addition to excellent car wash. It also reduces your water usage, so it is environmentally friendly. I've been using it on my black wrangler unlimited for 6 months. No scratches or swirls, and the only time I get water spots is after a rain if I don't get out there to wipe it down.

My process with ONR is:
1. Rinse off Jeep with water to knock off loose debris (sometimes I will do this at a Car Wash -- Hand wand with rinse only, I never go thru an automatic or use any of the hand wand's soaps or waxes.
2. Wash with ONR. Wipe dry with micro fiber towel.
3. Spray with a spray wax such as Ultima Spray Wax or Turtle Wax ICE.
4. Buff with soft microfiber polishing cloth.

Results:
http://i260.photobucket.com/albums/i...u/IMG_1261.jpg


i agree ONR is amazing!

its raining like hell here....tomorrow is a good day for an ONR WASH

Deaf1 08-14-2011 04:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RB-10rubicon

You can try simple green . I used it for about 15 years now on about everything .and if your going to wax .do your fender flares first with something like 303 then wax that way if you get wax on it it should be easier to wipe clean

K will look for some simple green & a soft brush.

Cv2065 08-15-2011 01:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Deaf1 (Post 1464950)
Ok how do you remove wax that has gotten on fenders & hood latches? I am getting some areas where the wax is showing bad, I want the plastic to get back to black.

Use Meguiar's Ultimate Liquid Wax. This is the only wax that I know that does not leave any kind of white wax residue on black trim areas and keeps them black. Advertises the feature on the bottle. It's a little more expensive than the typical wax, but well worth it. Goes on easy, but don't use too much, as its a bit harder to get off. You can even apply the stuff in the sun without issue, but I still stay in the garage.

slickstre 08-15-2011 05:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Deaf1 (Post 1467602)
OK finally got off my butt and took a couple of pictures.
http://i1113.photobucket.com/albums/...813_163330.jpg http://i1113.photobucket.com/albums/...813_163255.jpg
See the wax that is on the fender flare I am wanting to get that out/off so fenders are just plain black plastic again.

try getting some "back to black"to get rid of the wax and restore the black.auto parts store.

ed0985587 08-16-2011 11:32 AM

I appreciate the responses. Also the "its a jeep, don't wash it" responses lol. It may be a Jeep but its a Jeep i just paid 30k for, keeping it nice is a must. I have a YJ I can use for the dirt stuff.

ed0985587 08-17-2011 03:39 PM

I got some turtle wax ice car wash and turtle wax ice detailer spray. will go out in a bit and test it out, the car wash stuff is "supposed" to be guaranteed not to waterspot.


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