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hazaelnolasco 08-21-2011 06:22 PM

I want to have tractor tires, help!
 
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I want to know what should I need to do to make my jeep able to use tractor tires? I dont have money for swampers of this size...

I have R.15 "33" tires, and a short SOA, do I need to change rims or axles?

Mine is the black yj, I want it to look somewhat like the white yj

Irongrave 08-21-2011 06:23 PM

you need new axles and a lot of fab skill

jeeperscreeperz 08-21-2011 06:24 PM

Why?

tysalem 08-21-2011 06:33 PM

If you don't have the money for tires of this size, what makes you think you'll have enough money to mod your Jeep to handle these size tires? Just saying...:whistling:

BHall1244 08-21-2011 06:35 PM

really?

hazaelnolasco 08-21-2011 06:37 PM

in my country you can find excellent-condition second hand tractor tires for 50$-75$ each, also a pair of heavy dutty 70s-80s chevrolet axles for 100$, so its easier for me to buy them here tht buy some 400$ wheels in the states... So i am looking for cheap ways of modifying my yj, I already have the pro-shocks, and the soa made, but still want to know what are the implications of havig such big tires

Irongrave 08-21-2011 06:40 PM

had chevy axles are not going to handle tires like that. also putting in a set of axles is not cheep. there is a lot to setting up axles and making them work with your rig.

hazaelnolasco 08-21-2011 06:41 PM

like wich axles do i need?

Irongrave 08-21-2011 06:44 PM

to run tires like the white YJ you need rockwells

dana 60s are good with the right parts up to a 40-42in tire. same with 9 inchs and 14 blolts. dana 44s max out at 35-37 in tires. the dana 30 max is a 35, the dana 35 in the rear max is a 33

banks316 08-21-2011 06:50 PM

I agree rockwell is your best bet you will also need to regear to compensate for lack of power.

hazaelnolasco 08-21-2011 06:52 PM

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could these Dodge 1 ton truck, 8 lug, heavy duty Dana 44/60 (full floating rear) with 4.10 gears work?

Ibuildembig 08-21-2011 06:53 PM

if its mud only a 60 front will be fine with big outters

hazaelnolasco 08-21-2011 07:07 PM

If I regear the 4.10 gears, to which ratio would I need to regear? 3.#, or 2.#?

kjeeper10 08-21-2011 08:46 PM

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Originally Posted by bhall1244
really?

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mrobison1 08-21-2011 08:51 PM

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Originally Posted by kjeeper10

x10

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banks316 08-21-2011 10:21 PM

Gearing depends on ur tire size, engine, and trans. If you did go with 3.# or 2.# you couldnt go any bigger then a 27in tire. Stock YJ with I6 is 3.07 and stock 4I is 4.10. If you have an I6 4.10 would be go for 32- 33's, 4.56 would be good for 35-36, if you want a lower gear go with a 4.88. If you got 37-39.5 go with 4.88 or if you want lower go with 5.13. I dont know much about the I4 so i cant help you there. As for the axles in the pic they will require you to get a new T-case cause the front pumpkin is on the passenger side. I belive the Dana 300 case would swap it to the other side. Second those axles are going to be wider. If im correct almost 11 inch wider.

DoubleTap 08-21-2011 10:26 PM

I would not stop short of 2.5 ton Rockwells...

Zombiekiller 08-21-2011 11:36 PM

besides the awesomness of never getting stuck and the constant open-mouthed looks... whats the fun? you would never get stuck, and nothing would be challenging... dont get me wrong, im not against this by any means, im just curious as to your thoughts on why this is necessary

O_M_Jeep 08-21-2011 11:51 PM

to run tractor tires, go have a look at the axles (front and rear) on a tractor, then, after having a very good hard close look at the axles, open the engine cowling and an even better look at the power plant it takes to turn those tires, have a really good hard look at that engine, then turn around and look at your Jeep and ask yourself 2 things -
1. how am I going to make any engine with the power to turn those tires more than 15 mph on flat ground fit in that?
and
2. can I really afford 2 or 3 MPG just to look cool in my undriveable Jeep that isnt even good for wheeling anymore?

It will be an awesome mall crawler, how are the malls in Honduras?
Now that you decided that you can afford 35 miles per tank of fuel, how are your welding skills? do you have enough metal laying around to fabricate a fully custom suspension and steering system? Do you have the skills to fabricate a fully custom suspension and steering system? Those are the questions you have to ask you, before asking someone else how its done. I'm not trying to be mean, but if you have to ask how to do that, you cant do that.

Maybe first you should figure that transfer case leak and find the other 2 bolts for the one seat you have left.

Fweaky 08-22-2011 12:03 AM

Why not just buy a tractor and put a Wrangler tub on it? You could be driving the first Jeep JD!

hazaelnolasco 08-22-2011 12:12 AM

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I had been searching on internet, found that dana 60 4.10 ratio are the most recommended, this is because my jeep is a 90 4L with 4.10 ratio also. The reason of why I want to use tractor tires is because I am planning ti use my yj to compete in the national 4X4 league; Honduras may be a small country, but believe, 4x4 is really thought, and There is also a lot of people that know to mod their jeeps, I have al the mecanical and welding equipment, but I need help , because in Honduras I hadnt see a really convincing tractor wheel mod,....

:hide: I found the leak time ago, fixed it a week ago, Also got leather seats, and new doors.... you know work in a jeep never ends....

so, the thing is that I am planning on using tractor wheels but not so biiig ones, I now all the work to be done, but I can do it, just need to know how to..

and here is the link of merendon 4X$ club CLUB MERENDON 4X4 here is an expample of one of the best vehicles I could find here,and the types of wheels I want to use is these others:

YJ Jeep Freak 08-22-2011 02:08 PM

I know you dont have to worry about DOT approved tires for street, but the tractor tires are rated for 10 mph. or less. Does that National 4x4 league competition have timed runs as a factor and do you never want to get anywhere quick on the streets? :wavey:

YJ Jeep Freak 08-22-2011 02:17 PM

Sorry,double post from internet freeze. And its not that cold out yet!

1995yj318 08-22-2011 04:22 PM

Dana 60 front and 14 bolt rear with the lowest gears (numerically higher) gears you can get. Cromoley shafts in both and they might survive a little while. Like every one else if I were to do this I would go with 2.5 ton rockwells. With the gears in them being so low you might have a chance. Not much of one but some.

Ibuildembig 08-22-2011 09:34 PM

The thing that most people forget is that the ag tires are usually way lighter than swampers. I have buddies who run 43's on their mud trucks and they are super light....thats why I said regular 1 tons will hold up just fine.

DamnBigPapa 08-22-2011 09:50 PM

I've never seen a vehicle run tires like that without some BIG horsepower. And I mean big enough to scatter the hell out of anything under that YJ. Having been raised in Bama, I'm no stranger to the bogs. Big HP, heavy duty running gear. Several thousand dollars. If you can't afgord swampers, I don't see how its rational.
When it comes to any form of racing ... The first sentence should not ber that you can't affotd tires. Expensive hobby!!!7

hazaelnolasco 08-23-2011 01:06 AM

The competition consists of timing laps, like rally, between checkpoints, with mud, sand, rocks, and water,no running is required, something like this 4x4 2010 Club Merendon - YouTube, I believe that buying boggers from the usa , with all the shipping and taxes would cost me almost 2500 bucks the four tires... I believe its better to invest this money on modifying the jeep with tractor tires because I would save a LOT of money, I can buy excellent asian second hand tractor tires for 75$ bucks each..." which is amazing" making the total cost of the tires would be 300 bucks... which leave me 2200 for the suspension, engine, and axles (which also can be found here for 100$ because no one buys them :punk: ) I believe That I should invest more money in engine and waterproofing before luxury tires like swamper, Just look at one of the principal competitors Club Merendon 4 x 4 primera fecha - modificados... - YouTube

hazaelnolasco 08-23-2011 01:27 AM

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I want my jeep to look somewhat like these two:

2xs 08-23-2011 01:33 AM

If you are running through DEEP mud, dont use the Rockwell idea, they have a lot to be desired in ground clearance.
http://image.dieselpowermag.com/f/84...kwell_axle.jpg

Im thinking a DANA 60/70 combo, if you can find a wrecked newer Dodge truck, I know they run this combination, otherwise at least a set of DANA 60's, but be ready to change parts often regardless.
Dana 60 front
http://image.4wdandsportutility.com/...front_axle.jpg

Are those Portals in the red jeep? Im looking at the hub...

Portal front (with a Ford 9" center i believe)
http://forum.aev-conversions.com/att...6&d=1225209628

Xpress 08-23-2011 10:42 AM

I seriously don't see the point. A properly built rig with the right mud tires (NOT TRACTOR) can do everything you're seeing.


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