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tiny terror 08-27-2007 02:22 PM

tiny's considering a new lift...
If I go to a three inch lift can I take off my body lift and still fit 33's??

I'll need a SYE too right? So I could go ahead with the belly up while I'm at it... and new brake lines I assume...

Scout 08-27-2007 02:22 PM

Congrats. :cool: :D

Badge1236 08-27-2007 02:51 PM

Personally I was thinking about a face lift before I get a body lift.

tiny terror 08-27-2007 02:52 PM


Originally Posted by Badge1236 (Post 127847)
Personally I was thinking about a face lift before I get a body lift.


AzTJ 08-27-2007 02:53 PM

You shouldn't need a SYE with a 3" lift, but if you do the tummy tuck at the same time, then yes you would need one. But most tummy tucks require a 1" body lift to fit the transmissions.

Who or what lift did you have in mind?

Badge1236 08-27-2007 03:00 PM

Wasn't making any judgement on tiny needing a lift I just thought I would pass along my needs. That way if anyone wanted to the donate to the get badge a face lift charity they would know about it. I am sorry it is not tax deductible but the reward you get will help my self view. Ok maybe not. I would just blow the money on jeep stuff.

tiny terror 08-27-2007 03:01 PM


Originally Posted by AzTJ (Post 127850)
You shouldn't need a SYE with a 3" lift, but if you do the tummy tuck at the same time, then yes you would need one. But most tummy tucks require a 1" body lift to fit the transmissions.

Who or what lift did you have in mind?

Haven't decided yet, just looking at how much the whole mess would cost and if I can actually do it myself.

Would I have to drop the t-case without the SYE?

(badge studders)

AzTJ 08-27-2007 03:06 PM

With a 3" Lift? It should be minimal if at all, as you already have that MML.

tiny terror 08-27-2007 03:11 PM

Badge!!! Knock it off!!!! I'm going to have to delete that.

Badge1236 08-27-2007 03:18 PM

It was a double post and I needed something to fill the space. On your actual topic you shouldn't need a transfer case drop from what I have read with a 3 inch lift. You may have to trim the transfer case skid plate a little.

AzTJ 08-27-2007 03:24 PM

I think that picture should be deleted anyway.

tiny terror 08-27-2007 03:27 PM

Yeah, sorry Badge, but I just can't have it here. It's causing my eyes to bleed.

Badge1236 08-27-2007 03:32 PM

I have never seen someone's eyes bleed from a picture. Prove it. Just kidding. If you need to delete the double post go for it.

tiny terror 08-27-2007 03:36 PM

Thank you.

Now, back to my lift. I don't necessarily need a SYE if I go to three inches of lift, but I do if I want a belly up because of the angles. The SYE needs to be ordered specifically for my jeep right? Or is it sold by specific lift size?

AzTJ 08-27-2007 03:38 PM

Each drive shaft is custom built per application, as we all know every Jeep is different.

3" Lift : maybe a tiny tiny t-case drop & BL can be removed
3" Lift w/ SYE : BL lift can be removed.
3" LIft w/ SYE & Belly Up : BL stays

AzTJ 08-27-2007 03:40 PM

Also - figure in ~$200 for rear upper adjustable control arms as they are needed with an SYE and CV type drive shaft.

tiny terror 08-27-2007 03:42 PM

That's basically what I'm trying to figure out. What I need, how much, and if I can do it myself. I want to be able to do it myself.

AzTJ 08-27-2007 03:47 PM

If you installed your last lift, it wont be terribly hard. The only thing you might find difficult is the SYE install. For that, its best to remove the transfer case from the Jeep and do it on a workbench. Some will state otherwise. If you do not feel capable of performing the SYE install yourself, I was quoted ~$250-300 for install. Its really a pretty straight forward thing though.

The main thing is, whats your goal? Do you want the Belly-up? You want to get rid of the BL?

Badge1236 08-27-2007 03:47 PM

What do you want to do with your jeep? What size body lift do you have?

tiny terror 08-27-2007 03:50 PM

I want a full fledged lift, not spacer anymore (though it served it's purpose), a bit taller but not insane and I'd like the belly up but I can live without it. If the BL has to stay, no problem. But I also only want to run 33's so the BL might have to go because 33 with a three inch lift and one inch BL might be too small. I'm not ready to change my axle or explode it. :D

AzTJ 08-27-2007 03:52 PM

We pretty much know what she does with her Jeep, just want to know what she wants to do TO it. :D

AzTJ 08-27-2007 03:54 PM

Ok... is there a budget in place?

AzTJ 08-27-2007 03:59 PM

One solution to the Belly-Up problem.. Nth Degree's Tummy Tucker can be used without a BL. Although ~$500, its $200 more than a lot of the other belly-up skid plates, but you would still require an SYE.

Badge1236 08-27-2007 04:01 PM

Just to let you know tiny on my rebuild I am planning a 3.5 inch black diamond lift with a 1inch body lift. I am also planning on running 33's so in my opinion it would look okay if you have to keep the body lift. I would say from what have mentioned about $1k is going to be close when it is all said and done. Not that you have to spend that all in one shot. You will also have to think about the steering changes.

Scout 08-27-2007 04:10 PM




AzTJ 08-27-2007 04:17 PM

Thats deffinatly something to consider Scout, but not sure if Tiny wants to torch off the factory control arm mounts yet. :D

4point 08-27-2007 04:20 PM


Originally Posted by Simple Scout (Post 127933)



X2 Don't put too little of lift on again. 3" is not enough, in time you'll start thinking of 35" tires. Give yourself room to grow.

Scout 08-27-2007 04:24 PM

My all-time favorite quote on this forum is from Andy Clifford:

"A Budget Boost is just a gateway drug."

AzTJ 08-27-2007 04:27 PM

One thing I'd recommend, is the RE kits. Especially the SuperFlex. The reason I went with the one that I did, I have the option of later on buying the long arm upgrade, and keep my springs, shocks, disconnects, brake lines. And if I even want to, I can even buy their taller spring and just swap them in without needing to buy anything else.

RatherBNarizona 08-27-2007 04:47 PM

sorry interupt the thread
but speaking of a 3 inch lift
would a 3 inch lift and 32's look weird? And will 15x7 rims fit ok on 32's?

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