New jeep and no mods = fresh canvas....advice on upgrades?
Alrite so I just got my jeep on Monday. Its a 2000 wrangler, 5 speed, 4.0 with 132,000 miles. Its my 3rd jeep but my 1st wrangler. In the next few months (before the brint of winter) I want to get some upgrades done to it. I just wanted the advice from people that have already done all of this to their rides. Looking to do a 3 inch body lift (already has 2 inch supspension blocks on the springs, with 31" tires, a light bar (haven't decided on the bumper or across the windshield). Basically its my daily driver but I plan on doing some light-moderate wheeling a few times a month. I will sacrifice a little bit of fuel mileage for styling but not much. Any suggestions from the pro's out there?
08-29-2011 09:52 AM
dont do a 3 inch body lift, your askin for trouble. 1" or 1 1/4" body lift is the most you should do, if you only want 31s then the spacers that are on it are plenty to fit them, 31s fit just fine stock with no modifications what so ever, you wont notice much fuel mileage change with 31 inch tires, higher than that and you will...no matter what you do just have fun with it, take the top down and enjoy it ;]
08-29-2011 09:54 AM
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08-29-2011 10:04 AM
What's the reasoning behind not doing the 3" body lift? Too top heavy/swaying? Because it it makes a difference once I put the 31's on I'm going to put 1 1/4 wheel spacers to set the stance out a little wider, and for the fact that my 265/75r15's rub against my front lower control arms already on tight turns
08-29-2011 10:17 AM
they rub because of the wheels, you need after market wheels or spacers to stick the tires out...lifts have NOTHING to do with rubbing...lifts get your vehicle higher in the air so your tires dont go upwards and tear a fender off...a lift does nothing to keep your wheels from rubbing when you turn..a 3 inch body lift is bad, if you were to get in a wreck the body if gonna come flying off the chassis..if you wanna put 31s and a lift on properly do a suspension lift...i have a 2.5" inch lift and 31s..perfect combo, then later if you want 33s slap on a 1 inch body lift and your good to go...want 35s after that? high clearance fenders and boom you can fit 35s...the bigger your tires you want bumpstops as well...just go to the search box and type lift kit and just read for a couple weeks and youll be a jeep brainiac trust me lol plenty of very wise jeepers on here who know a thing or two, everyone learns from them lol
08-29-2011 11:13 AM
Big lift with 35s :thumb:
08-29-2011 12:40 PM
welcome, i am new here but from what i have been reading i would go with an OME (old man emu) 2.5" lift and 1" BL (body lift). you can take out the spring blocks and continue to run 31's or keep them in and step up to 33's. i think this is correct, if not im sure someone will chime in. hope you find the answers you are looking for.
08-29-2011 12:45 PM
Ya I just wanted to do the body lift for the looks of a taller jeep, not so much for the clearence cuz I know I could fit 31's rite now with no problem, but I wanted to make it a little bit bigger without dropping a grand on a suspension lift, so maybe I'll just got with a 1 1/4 body lift with the existing 2" suspension blocks and put the 31's on it, hopefully that will be enough height for what I'm looking for, just wish I could see the same setup before I dive into it ya know.
08-29-2011 10:06 PM
itll be enough height, i have 2.5" suspension lift and my 31s look pretty small
08-29-2011 10:09 PM
08-29-2011 10:13 PM
08-30-2011 12:22 AM
Light bars are not cheap, and will you ever use the extra lights? Just something to think about. Don't make a mod unless there is a reason for it. A four door Wrangler Unlimited with a 4" lift and 35" tires, winch, lights all over, etc. is kind of, well, pointless, when owned by someone in NYC who never drives it off road. THink about what you will actually be doing off road, then modify the Jeep to that need. That is my suggestion. "Form should follow function" philosophy of mine.
That being said, I would start with tires. Get a good set of all terrain tires that are still decent on the highway. If you have a 2" lift already, that isn't good enough? 33" tires are fine with a 2" lift.
Or, if you just want to look like an aggressive extreme off road mad dog, go all out. 4" lift, winch, all the trimmings. The women will flock around your Jeep and the guys will be SO jealous. It'll cost you, though . . .
08-30-2011 03:51 AM
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08-30-2011 04:15 AM
08-30-2011 09:06 PM
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08-30-2011 09:36 PM
For the love of Jeeps Please no 3in Body lift!! Did not know they made BL for TJs in 3in.
08-31-2011 12:08 AM
Well I live just south of Boston, ma and I do A LOT of driving in the middle of snow storms (supervisor for 13 high profile plow accounts) so a light bar would be key for a little extra visibility, no to mention "pit partys" will get a little extra light shined on them also. As far as the lift/ tires go, I want to do a little bit of wheeling (moderately and maybe once a week) but this jeep is also my daily driver so I'm trying to find something with a happy medium between an off-road machine and a designated main vehicle.
09-03-2011 11:27 AM
I agree with your choices Matt - is a light bar allowed to be on while on the road in Massachusetts? - they are illegal on the road in PA. In fact the lights on a light bar need to be covered or disconnected while on the road - I see very few Wranglers or other four wheel drive vehicles with light bars because of the legal issue. I am looking into putting some side lights (near the mirrors) and maybe a pair on the rear of the vehicle, more for when I'm around the vehicle at night doing something at the back like loading a deer onto the carrier. Also if you are really going off road much, I suggest a two inch level lift with longer shocks - they give you a bit more clearance, doesn't reallly change the dynamics of the vehicle, and it is inexpensive. I just had mine done for $400 this week. And it looks good with stock tires or you can go to 33", at the most 35" but it is pushing it.
09-03-2011 11:30 AM
Originally Posted by CY99TJ
For the love of Jeeps Please no 3in Body lift!! Did not know they made BL for TJs in 3in.
Agree! Maybe a 1" body lift combined with a suspension or level lift, and that is only to make room for those 35" tires.
09-04-2011 04:25 PM
Well I'm not too worried about the legality of the ligh bars in mass, because its more for extra visibility when I'm driving around in the middle of snow storms (which is what my job entales) and for wheelin at night to get out to all the pit parties haha, I doubt I would have a problem with havin the light bar on the jeep though, but I'll cross that bridge when I come to it. But ya I like the windshield mount lights, but I think I'm going to go with either a front bumper mount and an over the windshield one, haven't decided which one is more bad ass yet haha
09-04-2011 05:56 PM
Ya as far as the suspension goes, I already have 2" spring spacers on the coils and I'm running 31's right now, but I picked up a set off 33's with 40% tread life left for a 12 pack of budlight off my buddy today. So I'm going to put a 1" body lift of in within the next few weeks and get 1 1/4 inch wheel spacers so I can run the 33's on my factory rims and not rub against my front lower control arms
09-04-2011 06:32 PM
Tires for a pack of Bud Light - I love those kind of deals!
I am looking into spacers too, probably 1 1/4 ", but next year when I get some different tires. I will probably stick to my 17" alloy rims, unless something really rocks my world by next year. 33s are the tallest tire I want - with 3:21 gearing I will lose noticeable power I believe with 35s. Also a 2" lift is pushing it with 35s, would maybe do a 1" body lift just for the tires, and honestly I don't want 35s that badly. But none of this til next year. I have limited out my Jeep budget for the year . . .but will keep an eye out for those Bud Light specials!
09-04-2011 06:41 PM
Ya this jeep is my daily driver so I won't run anything bigger than 33's I'm even hesitating putting those on in place of my 31's but we'll see how much more fuel is dominated trying to spin those 33's instead. And ya I love the look of an inch or 2 of tire sticking out of the fenders after the wheel spacers are on, it gives it a mean looking stance
09-04-2011 08:52 PM
My past three Wranglers were my main vehicles - this new JK is purely for Jeeping. I also am debating over 31 or 33. I may just stick with 31s. In PA we have to have fender flares out as far as the tires - so if I go with spacers, will possibly also need wider flares. For that "mean look" I really like how the 2" level lift (a bit higher in the front) puts the front end up higher. It is how a Wrangler should look. Didn't do it for the looks though, did it for extra clearance. But the look is a bonus.
09-04-2011 09:50 PM
09-05-2011 12:15 AM
Ya dude, same thing in mass, but I'm pretty sure cops aren't going to bust balls too bad about 1 1/4 inches of tires hanging out over the fenders, only rookies with nothing better to do would attempt to write a ticket for something like that