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Levinoss 09-07-2007 03:48 AM

Why do old people come to college?
 
Why do old people come to college? Thats the name of a blog I stumbled across tonight. I dont have to tell you it ticked me off abit, that someone would actually blog something like this.

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I’m sitting here in my English class. Were supposed to be writing some paper but I’m opting to blog. ;-) I’m typing this on my phone so I apologize for any errors.

But yeah where was I? Oh yeah the fact that old people come to college. Now I understand maybe a 40 year-old coming and maybe earning a teaching degree or something like that. But when were talkin a 63 year-old wrinkly old woman who is retired coming to class. What is the fu**** point? She is already retired! I would think you would go on some vacations or somethin. But da** you wanna sit in a classroom with a bunch of young adults and a kid who likes to blog on his da** phone….give me a break! No not a kit kat break but the kind of break that emphasizes something that is rediculous.

I just don’t understand the whole concept of these wrinkly people attending classes its pathetic. then the young college-aged ladies are pretty sad in this class. I’m not seein much and I’m usually not picky. For the love of god shoot me in the balls now!
I was actually glad to see the comments that were posted against this blog.

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you are very young and inexperienced is why you don’t understand anything about the importance of life and getting older
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the fact that you are sitting in a classroom blogging tells me that you are the one that doesn’t deserve to be sitting in a classroom. and regardless of the fact that you are very young and inexperienced, i believe you are old enough to know that it is never too late to learn something new. and i find it disgusting that you even have to describe the person as “wrinkly” for you too will one day be older and as you put it “wrinkly”. you can’t put a value on education and did you ever stop to think that this person may have never had the opportunity to go to college and now has it? i think it’s great!!!
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if you’re as spooked by ‘wrinkly’ 63 year old women
as you sound, you can’t possibly have any balls to shoot
off.
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I’m an old person in a college class. I’m at least 15 years older than most of the children I have to share the space with and I often have a similar question. Why do children go to college? They don’t like it. They don’t pay attention. They don’t usually understand the work. In fact, most of the “students” seem to be there just because their parents are forcing them. I go to school because I enjoy it. I like learning new things and adding on to my education. I’m working on a new degree so I can continue to be happy with my career and personal choices. I wouldn’t trade one day with an 18 year old who would rather blog than learn.
The guy goes on to make him self look more pathetic.

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Don’t get me wrong I like learning with the best of people. But I’m sorry trying to interpret an image doesn’t tickle my fancy so I decided to blog. Now I know I will get wrinkly unless I’m rich like Jerry Jones of the Cowboys then I can avoid the wrinkles. But an education is great its the most important thing yoi can get but honestly a 63 year-old person is in the class? What is that person gonna use this education for? Teachin the peeps at Bingo night how to interpret an image? I’m sorry I just don’t see the point. I have respect for the elderly generation but why do they need to be in the young adults classroom? They like wasting their remaining years in a class that is blazing hot instead of maybe using that tuition money on a trip?

When you go to collegehumor.com you don’t go there to see 63 year-old ladies you see 18-22 so case closed.
/discuss :crash::mad:

~Lev

cavediverjc 09-07-2007 08:45 AM

Nice. Some people just like to get a rise out of their audience by posting controversial topics on the net. Confrontation seems to get some people off. But you know what they say about arguing on the internet....it's just like winning the Special Olympics......in the end you're still retarded. (Sorry, there just wasn't any way to PC that)
Jordan

Unlimited 09-07-2007 10:44 AM

Simple answer: When you stop learning, you die!

I just started back to school to finish my degree (I'm 47). I can tell you that it's pretty tough for someone my age to get back into the whole school thing, especially when you have a full time career and a family.

There is a 68 year old woman in my cohort. She is there because it was her goal when she was young to get a college degree. She quit college to get married and raise a family. Then she had to take care of her dying mother, then her dying husband. There was never a good time to go back to school, but the fact that she didn't finish her degree had always bothered her. She feels lick she was successful in everything in her life but school. Now, she's retired and has time. People like that should be an inspiration. It's a lot harder to be in school when you don't have to be there. A lot of people are in school because they feel that they have to be there in order to get a good job or because their parents say so. Someone that goes to school because it's important to them to be educated is rare in today's society.

The punk that wrote the blog post is probably attending college on his parent's dime and has no appreciation for the value of the education he is getting. I think the better question is: Why is he in college?

On Edit: In re-reading this post, it seems on the surface to be judgmental against anyone that doesn’t have a college degree. It’s not. My personal opinion is that we, as individuals need to do what we believe is best for ourselves. If that includes college, great! If not, that’s great too. We all have our place in this world, our job is to find it. I tell my kids to do what they love to do and be the best at it they can be, but never stop learning.

What angers me is that this kid is being handed an education for free. All he has to do is sit in class and then go party. I haven’t been wheelin’ for months because that is one thing I’ve had to give up in order to get my school work done. I could be wheeling up in Big Bear tomorrow with tiny, instead I’ll be sitting at my computer finishing two papers and a 15 minute Powerpoint presentation.

skeeter 09-07-2007 10:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Levinoss (Post 132612)
/discuss

~Lev

He's an idiot. Most college kids are idiots.

Walkeraviator 09-07-2007 11:58 AM

He is one who needs to learn the difference in Knowledge and Wisdom.

ygohome 09-07-2007 04:06 PM

your mom goes to college

Texapple 09-07-2007 08:47 PM

nicely said, unlimited

......I just walked out those college doors and will be re-entering them next year.

:eek: OMG, am I "wrinkly" ????????

jjseel 09-07-2007 08:54 PM

"Some people go to the 'fountain of knowlege and take a sip, others dive right in'"

kg4kpg 09-07-2007 09:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Unlimited (Post 132670)
Simple answer: When you stop learning, you die!

I just started back to school to finish my degree (I'm 47). I can tell you that it's pretty tough for someone my age to get back into the whole school thing, especially when you have a full time career and a family.

There is a 68 year old woman in my cohort. She is there because it was her goal when she was young to get a college degree. She quit college to get married and raise a family. Then she had to take care of her dying mother, then her dying husband. There was never a good time to go back to school, but the fact that she didn't finish her degree had always bothered her. She feels lick she was successful in everything in her life but school. Now, she's retired and has time. People like that should be an inspiration. It's a lot harder to be in school when you don't have to be there. A lot of people are in school because they feel that they have to be there in order to get a good job or because their parents say so. Someone that goes to school because it's important to them to be educated is rare in today's society.

The punk that wrote the blog post is probably attending college on his parent's dime and has no appreciation for the value of the education he is getting. I think the better question is: Why is he in college?

On Edit: In re-reading this post, it seems on the surface to be judgmental against anyone that doesn’t have a college degree. It’s not. My personal opinion is that we, as individuals need to do what we believe is best for ourselves. If that includes college, great! If not, that’s great too. We all have our place in this world, our job is to find it. I tell my kids to do what they love to do and be the best at it they can be, but never stop learning.

What angers me is that this kid is being handed an education for free. All he has to do is sit in class and then go party. I haven’t been wheelin’ for months because that is one thing I’ve had to give up in order to get my school work done. I could be wheeling up in Big Bear tomorrow with tiny, instead I’ll be sitting at my computer finishing two papers and a 15 minute Powerpoint presentation.

Well said. At 41 I am hoping to start back to school in January. I can have an associates in just over a year with the credits I already have plus what ever they convert from my military service. most of mine will be online, but at the end of the rainbow is a GS-12 Contract Specialist job here at the VA. I imagine I am going to be challenged. That punk kid needs to get drafted.

Levinoss 09-07-2007 09:49 PM

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Originally Posted by kg4kpg (Post 132990)
That punk kid needs to get drafted.

Do you really want someone that stupid to fight for your country?

"whats the hole at the end of this thing do?"
"BAM"

~Lev

Odhinn 09-08-2007 06:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Levinoss (Post 133004)
Do you really want someone that stupid to fight for your country?

"whats the hole at the end of this thing do?"
"BAM"

~Lev


I saw a few that I wouldn't turn my back to, or share a fox hole with.

I went back to college last year and saw a few things that disturbed me. Kids that have no clue what real life is all about and Profs that teach opinion and not fact. Not all are like this but more then I would like to see. The attitude this kid shows is exactly what I am seeing in college now. Kids seem to care more about texting/talking smack then actually making something of their lives and being productive instead of destructive. Maybe its a defense mechanism due to insecurity or maybe just the fact that most have never been held accountable for their actions. Either way it can only end bad for older generations when they reach retirement.:(

Lev asked me a question about a week ago that made me think about something very important. "Were you worried about your generation running the country?" I honestly said no. I have my doubts about this generation and their idea of what reality really is. As in all generations there is good and bad, but which outweighs the other in our most current one.

Not trying to ruffle any feathers with the younger jeepers we have here just stating the opinion I have developed dealing with the younger crowd both at work and at college.

activelydying 09-08-2007 06:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Levinoss (Post 133004)
Do you really want someone that stupid to fight for your country?

"whats the hole at the end of this thing do?"
"BAM"

~Lev

Wouldn't that be better anyway?

Levinoss 09-08-2007 10:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by activelydying (Post 133165)
Wouldn't that be better anyway?

No

~Lev

#12 09-08-2007 11:15 AM

oh man when i saw this post i was mad then i read the opening post, and my attitude changed i am glad there are persons that value education. this kid i would naturally assume, will learn someday. i post on a camaro forum too and the general consensus of members reflect this attitude, young and dumb, needless to say these type of posts are made all the time.

ps i have a pic of my new jeep but i am not sure how to put it up on my signature

kg4kpg 09-08-2007 09:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Levinoss (Post 133004)
Do you really want someone that stupid to fight for your country?
"whats the hole at the end of this thing do?"
"BAM"
~Lev

Well sure, for the Navy. :D j/k

While yes, he's an idiot, a little tough love might (I stress might) bring him around.

OdhinnsChick 09-08-2007 09:08 PM

Went to my sci lab this morning. Mostly people over 25 in there. I had a great time. More so than with those air headed, gum smakin', cell phone talkin', blond bimbo's that I went to orientation with. lol If it wasn't for "OLD people" these people would never be sitting in a classroom.

kbak303 09-09-2007 07:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Odhinn (Post 133162)
I saw a few that I wouldn't turn my back to, or share a fox hole with.

Kids that have no clue what real life is all about and Profs that teach opinion and not fact. Not all are like this but more then I would like to see. The attitude this kid shows is exactly what I am seeing in college now. Kids seem to care more about texting/talking smack then actually making something of their lives and being productive instead of destructive. Maybe its a defense mechanism due to insecurity or maybe just the fact that most have never been held accountable for their actions. Either way it can only end bad for older generations when they reach retirement.:(

Not trying to ruffle any feathers with the younger jeepers we have here just stating the opinion I have developed dealing with the younger crowd both at work and at college.


I'm not trying to ruffle feathers either..but i went back to school 5 years ago at 35 yrs of age to finish my BS in CJ that i dropped out as a junior in '93, then i kept going to earn my alternative teaching certification. I taught 2 years while completing graduate school and now i'm working on my principal's certification {i'm a certified educational diagnostician with a M.ed in Special Education}

I'm loving it.i love working with kids and making some difference in some lives, .but i notice something in my HS that the 'blogger' typified....when he said that interpetating an image "doesn't tickle his fancy", so he'd rather waste his time and the instructor's?

i notice this..if it isn't to their liking or they don't want to do it..screw it..i'll go do this...many kids are NOT like this..but far too many are...

remember when we were told to do something, and we might bitch and whine but we did it?

not now...some kids are constitutional lawyers and we're 'violating' their rights..others are ODD and just aren't going to do it no matter what..screw you i ain't gonna....others are passive aggressive and just sit there and teachers finally give up and move on to a kid that wants their help...

i work at a HS with a hardcore dedicated group of teachers..and they don't give up on kids..but there is WAY tooooo many that just don't want what we're selling, no desire, no drive...don't give a crap cause someone MUST be going to give them everything like their folks...

I earned a living with my back basically from 16 yrs old till i was 35......i learned the hard way and woke up and took adv. of an chance....wonder how many of them will get a second chance like did...

just saying..that kid typifies way too many i know...i sure love to death the ones that don't...

Odhinn 09-09-2007 09:31 PM

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Originally Posted by kbak303 (Post 133828)
I'm not trying to ruffle feathers either..but i went back to school 5 years ago at 35 yrs of age to finish my BS in CJ that i dropped out as a junior in '93, then i kept going to earn my alternative teaching certification. I taught 2 years while completing graduate school and now i'm working on my principal's certification {i'm a certified educational diagnostician with a M.ed in Special Education}

I'm loving it.i love working with kids and making some difference in some lives, .but i notice something in my HS that the 'blogger' typified....when he said that interpetating an image "doesn't tickle his fancy", so he'd rather waste his time and the instructor's?

i notice this..if it isn't to their liking or they don't want to do it..screw it..i'll go do this...many kids are NOT like this..but far too many are...

remember when we were told to do something, and we might bitch and whine but we did it?

not now...some kids are constitutional lawyers and we're 'violating' their rights..others are ODD and just aren't going to do it no matter what..screw you i ain't gonna....others are passive aggressive and just sit there and teachers finally give up and move on to a kid that wants their help...

i work at a HS with a hardcore dedicated group of teachers..and they don't give up on kids..but there is WAY tooooo many that just don't want what we're selling, no desire, no drive...don't give a crap cause someone MUST be going to give them everything like their folks...

I earned a living with my back basically from 16 yrs old till i was 35......i learned the hard way and woke up and took adv. of an chance....wonder how many of them will get a second chance like did...

just saying..that kid typifies way too many i know...i sure love to death the ones that don't...

I commend you on your choice to educate our young generation. Kids now wouldn't be able to function with the way some of us were raised. I still remember being told to speak only when spoken to, or go cut your switch, and my all time personal favorite "If your not bleeding don't cry!" (my Mother actually told me this one). Either way the whole situation makes me nervous when our generation has to relinquish control of the country over to them. I might just have to disappear into the Rockies with my family.

amy 09-10-2007 12:20 AM

Dang, Odhinn, I think our Moms must be related. I never had to cut my own switch, Mom kept a yardstick handy (she was a seamstress) but the rest sounds about right. Does "Quit your crying or I'll give you something to cry about" ring a bell?

kbak303, I see that same attitude in 5 year olds. I would never have even thought some of the things that these kids say, loudly, to adults. But, you're right about the kids who aren't like that. They make going to work a joy.

jjseel 09-10-2007 02:33 AM

Yup. I have personally DESTROYED several yardsticks with my butt. I have had to "cut my own switches" also. My son will attest to the fact that I continued the tough love heritage with him, he turned out great, but it was iffy that he was going to live to adulthood. It sucks (and is a great thing, at the same time) to have a child bigger and smarter than you are!

kg4kpg 09-10-2007 07:13 AM

My great-grandmother used to make me get my own switch. But she also walked with a cane, never understood why she didn't just try to beat us with that.:confused: My dad had his 3 inch western belt with a couple concho's, used more for threats than actual beat-downs. Ah, the good life. :)
Something I would like to do when I retire from the army is become an JROTC instructor. Maybe once I retire from the Army and the VA.

erickpl 09-10-2007 08:13 AM

My wife is back in college to finally get her degree. She even has classes with our daughter.

Why did she go back?
1. She didn't have the opportunity earlier (various reasons)
2. She wants to continue to grow.
3. She likes the challenge.

I don't think I could go back to college, even for an advanced degree. I'd probably want to eliminate the 'children' who are there and don't GAF.

Perhaps the 'wrinkly' lady recently had a spouse die and realized that she wanted something to do to keep her mind sharp.

I think that kid is just afraid he will have to beat the 'wrinkly' lady's test scores. :D

Odhinn 09-10-2007 03:07 PM

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Originally Posted by amy (Post 133982)
Does "Quit your crying or I'll give you something to cry about" ring a bell?

Oh yeah, Heard them too.:D

kbak303 09-10-2007 05:01 PM

lol my sister in law (very liberal ph.d living up North) has threatened to call CPS on me when she visits because my 5 yr old has rules, is reminded of the rules when need be...and does get sent to her room

I've not had to give a tap on her rear since she was 18 months old and wouldn't stop going near the stove ....but she gets a bad look and she is reminded of what can happen...

the reason i get threatened with a 'phone call' is my sis in law encouraged my daughter to do something she's not allowed to, and my 5 yr old said 'i can't do that or daddy will break my ass'....oh well...call 'em...she's well fed, has more toys strewn about than a Toys R Us truck jackknifed on I-44, has a good roof on her head, and she has her own Barbie Wrangler:flipoff:

it's not cute to cuss..but it was funny....we've since gotten her to the point that 'i'll get in trouble if i do that'

i have an angel for a daughter though, i was told that at kindergarten she's very smart and very well behaved..maybe it was lip service

amy 09-10-2007 08:44 PM

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Originally Posted by jjseel (Post 133996)
Yup. I have personally DESTROYED several yardsticks with my butt. I have had to "cut my own switches" also.

My Mom used the yardstick on my brother. He sneered and said, "That didn't hurt." She broke the yardstick on him. He never mouthed off to her again, even when he got to be a foot taller than her.

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My son will attest to the fact that I continued the tough love heritage with him, he turned out great, but it was iffy that he was going to live to adulthood. It sucks (and is a great thing, at the same time) to have a child bigger and smarter than you are!
That is even more true when she's only 10! ;)

sgnellett 09-10-2007 09:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Walkeraviator (Post 132699)
He is one who needs to learn the difference in Knowledge and Wisdom.

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Originally Posted by skeeter (Post 132673)
He's an idiot. Most college kids are idiots.

AMEN TO THAT! I am a full time college student and most days I think my head will explode if I have to explain to one more lil skull full of mush why Che Guevara is no hero, why Canada, or France, or Ass-hole-istan isn't the greatest place to live, and why the War on Terror is so important to win, they have no clue about the world beyond the I-pod, facebook, & beerpong!

sgnellett 09-10-2007 09:07 PM

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Originally Posted by jjseel (Post 132968)
"Some people go to the 'fountain of knowlege and take a sip, others dive right in'"

and still others prefer to just gargle!!!

:rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl:

sgnellett 09-10-2007 09:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kg4kpg (Post 133471)
Well sure, for the Navy. :D j/k

While yes, he's an idiot, a little tough love might (I stress might) bring him around.

Easy w/ the USN jokes! :flipoff::D:eek::rofl:

sgnellett 09-10-2007 09:14 PM

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Originally Posted by kbak303 (Post 133828)
I'm not trying to ruffle feathers either..but i went back to school 5 years ago at 35 yrs of age to finish my BS in CJ that i dropped out as a junior in '93, then i kept going to earn my alternative teaching certification. I taught 2 years while completing graduate school and now i'm working on my principal's certification {i'm a certified educational diagnostician with a M.ed in Special Education}

I'm loving it.i love working with kids and making some difference in some lives, .but i notice something in my HS that the 'blogger' typified....when he said that interpetating an image "doesn't tickle his fancy", so he'd rather waste his time and the instructor's?

i notice this..if it isn't to their liking or they don't want to do it..screw it..i'll go do this...many kids are NOT like this..but far too many are...

remember when we were told to do something, and we might bitch and whine but we did it?

not now...some kids are constitutional lawyers and we're 'violating' their rights..others are ODD and just aren't going to do it no matter what..screw you i ain't gonna....others are passive aggressive and just sit there and teachers finally give up and move on to a kid that wants their help...

i work at a HS with a hardcore dedicated group of teachers..and they don't give up on kids..but there is WAY tooooo many that just don't want what we're selling, no desire, no drive...don't give a crap cause someone MUST be going to give them everything like their folks...

I earned a living with my back basically from 16 yrs old till i was 35......i learned the hard way and woke up and took adv. of an chance....wonder how many of them will get a second chance like did...

just saying..that kid typifies way too many i know...i sure love to death the ones that don't...

Ken, I am a senior finishing up my degree for certification as a SPED teacher, I hope there are enough of US out there with some sense to save a few of the young ones before they get to the point this kid and others like him are at.

kbak303 09-10-2007 10:06 PM

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Originally Posted by sgnellett (Post 134353)
Easy w/ the USN jokes! :flipoff::D:eek::rofl:


yeah easy...I mean, the Navy gots some real nice boats so the Corps can get to where they need to be!!

:punk:

I's kidding!!!!


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