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nicolas-eric 09-07-2007 05:59 PM

Winch rope
 
hello,

is there an alternative to the stock steel winch rope?
i saw on TV that they use some other ropes like from a boat.

do you know something about that?
where can i buy such a rope?
what does it cost?

thanks in advance.
nicolas-eric :wavey:

AzTJ 09-07-2007 06:06 PM

Synthetic winch line

http://www.winchline.com/

nicolas-eric 09-07-2007 06:13 PM

is it better than steel winch ropes?
what´s the difference?
is there a disadvantage?

AzTJ 09-07-2007 06:47 PM

is it better than steel winch ropes? : MUCH MUCH Lighter!

what´s the difference? Basically the weight:strength ratio is much better than a steel cable.

is there a disadvantage? Not really, other than being expensive.

AmSteel (one brand) has 5/16" rope @ 100ft with tested rating for a minimum of 12,330 lbs.

Scoob 09-07-2007 08:05 PM

Its also MUCH SAFER to use then steel cable, which has been known to kill people.

nicolas-eric 09-07-2007 08:06 PM

i think i will order the 3/8" 100 feet rope from the link you posted above the next time i order parts in the US.

nicolas-eric 09-07-2007 08:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Scoob (Post 132933)
Its also MUCH SAFER to use then steel cable, which has been known to kill people.

whats the difference?
i know that if a steel cable tears its very dangerous for peopla standing next to the cable.
what happens if a synthetic winch rope tears?

:wavey:

AzTJ 09-07-2007 08:10 PM

Whats the current price conversion for you Nicolas?

Scoob 09-07-2007 08:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nicolas-eric (Post 132936)
whats the difference?
i know that if a steel cable tears its very dangerous for peopla standing next to the cable.
what happens if a synthetic winch rope tears?

:wavey:

It falls to the ground, it does not whip back 20 feet like a cable will.

AzTJ 09-07-2007 08:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nicolas-eric (Post 132936)
whats the difference?
i know that if a steel cable tears its very dangerous for peopla standing next to the cable.
what happens if a synthetic winch rope tears?

It has a lot less weight and strength behind it if it snaps, at worst, yould get some really bad bruises.

debruins 09-07-2007 08:33 PM

nope it is supposed ot store NO energy in it, now im sure it holds osme, but it think that it is supposed ot just drop to the ground

and if ur gonna get it its also a plus it doesnt rust, and you wont need gloves becuased there is no metal pieces to fray

nicolas-eric 09-07-2007 08:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AzTJ (Post 132939)
Whats the current price conversion for you Nicolas?

my dealer gives me all things for about 20% less than quadratec or other big jeep parts dealers.
i think the 100 feet rope will cost about 190$ for me. that´s about 135 euros.

and i don´t pay for shipping. he sends old US cars to some collectors here in germany in an overseas container all 1-2 months. and he always puts my parts in these containers.
that takes longer than shipping by plane. but if you would know the german jeep parts pices you would think that´s worth to wait a bit for the parts.
p.e. the OME susp. costs 1600$ here and some JKS discos cost 300$. a 35" BFG AT would cost 285$ over here.

i saved many 100$$$$ by ordering arts in the US.

nicolas-eric 09-07-2007 08:44 PM

if the synthetic rope is much safer i will buy one. safety is important for me and my buddies.

AzTJ 09-07-2007 09:08 PM

ah ok - good deal!

nicolas-eric 09-07-2007 09:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AzTJ (Post 132976)
ah ok - good deal!

btw he has the same cheap prices for people from the US...

must say good night now. :wavey:

jeeperman 09-07-2007 10:23 PM

The disadvantage to the synthetic rope winch line is the ability to be dragged over rocks and around trees without fraying. It is much safer and much lighter, but does not hold up as well when dragging over rocks.

Redrubicon2004 09-07-2007 10:29 PM

I have been running one for a few months now, I love it. No scary cable noise while winching, very light, the saftey thimble wont go through the fairlead, and the thimble weighs less than the steel hook Doesnt weigh down the front of the jeep as much :punk:

Only advise is to try to keep mud off it, they dont like mud a whole lot. but you can wash it in a laundry bag if it gets dirty.

The fairlead I am using is made by ROKMEN.COM

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1BLKJP 09-07-2007 11:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by debruins (Post 132954)
nope it is supposed ot store NO energy in it, now im sure it holds osme, but it think that it is supposed ot just drop to the ground

and if ur gonna get it its also a plus it doesnt rust, and you wont need gloves becuased there is no metal pieces to fray

Derek, This is not absolutely correct. Anything can and will store energy upon release can also cause injury in the wrong circumstances. With that said rope is definitely safer than cable. It's pulling strength is stronger than cable also, but as Jeeperman stated when it's drug on rocks or trees it still frey's like anyother rope will.

Go no less than 3/8ths.

Oh, and I run rope in my winch so I do have experience with it.

Tj Bunch 09-08-2007 01:12 PM

Jack, I have no winch yet but do you or anyone i guess know if you can get one without cable and maybe get rope instaed? Where i go at least for now there are not many big rocks mostly hills and trees with some mud if we ever get rain.

jeeperman 09-08-2007 01:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tj Bunch (Post 133285)
Jack, I have no winch yet but do you or anyone i guess know if you can get one without cable and maybe get rope instaed? Where i go at least for now there are not many big rocks mostly hills and trees with some mud if we ever get rain.

Ramsey sells a 9500 lb. winch with rope instead of cable (125' I think), and Warn has a competition-based winch with rope, but it only comes with 50' of rope, the 9.0rc.

AzTJ 09-08-2007 02:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tj Bunch (Post 133285)
Jack, I have no winch yet but do you or anyone i guess know if you can get one without cable and maybe get rope instaed? Where i go at least for now there are not many big rocks mostly hills and trees with some mud if we ever get rain.

If you go to winchline.com - they sell SuperWinch with the option of rope instead of the cable.

1BLKJP 09-09-2007 01:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tj Bunch (Post 133285)
Jack, I have no winch yet but do you or anyone i guess know if you can get one without cable and maybe get rope instaed? Where i go at least for now there are not many big rocks mostly hills and trees with some mud if we ever get rain.

The fella's have pretty much summed up any advice I can give you on that one. I didn't even buy my winch from a retailer. I got a smokin deal on Ebay for a 9000i with the rope already on it. I would definitely suggest keeping an eye on Craigslist and Ebay for winches. For the most part a winch will last the life of your ride so if someone is upgrading it can be your gain. :D


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