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StrizzyChris 09-15-2011 09:25 PM

Lift, Rims and Tires
 
I just bought a 2007 Wrangler Sahara 4D 4WD Automatic Hardtop. I am going to do a suspension lift, rims and tires. I was thinking 3" lift, 18-20" Rims, 35" tires. Any suggestions if i should change that combination or would be better? Also I am a on road driver with occasional off-road use(very basic terrain) so mostly advice for on road.

ESP 09-15-2011 09:35 PM

Don't go above 17" and better yet say under 17" wheels. If you are getting 35s make sure you understand what is necessary to run them safely and what you'll have to do to your jeep to make it happen. Also, what's going to happen to your jeep by running 35s.

Take your Jeep off road as much as possible. Do this and then decide what mods you need/want.

kjeeper10 09-15-2011 09:45 PM

:popcorn:

StrizzyChris 09-26-2011 02:20 AM

I've decided, after reading a ton of reviews to not go over 17". Now what will going with 35" "do to" my jeep?

kjeeper10 09-26-2011 02:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by StrizzyChris
I've decided, after reading a ton of reviews to not go over 17". Now what will going with 35" "do to" my jeep?

Kill it. All the "powerless" talk comes from
the automatic owners. The 4 speed is pitiful. Plan on a regear to regain the lost performance :)

rics1997 09-26-2011 02:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kjeeper10 (Post 1603748)
Kill it. All the "powerless" talk comes from
the automatic owners. The 4 speed is pitiful. Plan on a regear to regain the lost performance :)


Well, I think saying the 4 speed is pitiful is exactly true. It really isn't the transmissions fault that Jeep didn't gear it right. The 4 speed runs great after it gets the gears it needed. And it really wasn't the whole JK line. More of an issue in the JKU.

Bowhuntr 09-26-2011 09:50 AM

Same for a 2011 Rubicon with auto & 4:10?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by kjeeper10 (Post 1603748)
Kill it. All the "powerless" talk comes from
the automatic owners. The 4 speed is pitiful. Plan on a regear to regain the lost performance :)


As this discussion was around a 2007, am wondering if I'll run into the same for a 2011 auto with the 4:10?

kjeeper10 09-26-2011 10:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bowhuntr

As this discussion was around a 2007, am wondering if I'll run into the same for a 2011 auto with the 4:10?

Same tranny but Yes 4.10's would be better.
Not sure if a aftermarket tuner (tune) is out for the 11 yet to change up the shift points.

InfernoGirl 09-26-2011 01:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Bowhuntr (Post 1604101)
As this discussion was around a 2007, am wondering if I'll run into the same for a 2011 auto with the 4:10?

Drive it, see if you can stand it... Ours has 4:10's and 35's and for our needs it doesn't require regearing.... Your mileage may vary. ;)

Bulldawg 09-26-2011 01:57 PM

My jeep has 4:10's and 35s and to me it's not underpowered.

StrizzyChris 09-26-2011 02:49 PM

I have read a few threads on here and I was debating on 3" vs 4" lift. I am wanting either 33 or 35's on it. I am going to use this as a mild offroader. I am not going rock crawling or severe climing. I will be taking it in the woods and fields for hunting and camping.

My question is what is the biggest tires and highest lift ill be able to get out of this without(being forced to) replacing drive shafts and HAVING to re-gear. I keep hearing mixed reviews. Some say theirs is just fine on 4" and 33's and some saying its a must re-gear and drive shaft issues. Is this from the hardcore crawlers that say all these mods are a must or is this something I'll have no choice but to do in the future if i go 4" and 35's?

StrizzyChris 09-26-2011 02:54 PM

^Addendum....again I am new to jeep mods and I am sure I am just scratching the surface of mods I will do to this. I'm sure later i will re-gear and make further power train changes but I am not looking to be forced to do them as soon as I lift it^

InfernoGirl 09-26-2011 03:29 PM

First make sure you are reading JK stuff, not TJ stuff. Very few JK's on 4" lift on this forum. It isn't needeed to go over 3" to fit 35's easy. We run 35's on 2.5" lift on the JK.

Second, regearing has nothing to do with lifting, everything to do with what size tires you're trying to push. Regearing regains the perceived power loss due to larger tire size. Different Wranglers come from the factory with different gearing, and so, some find regearing required due to their stock gears as well as their terrain and driving habits. As I mentioned, in flat Indiana with a short daily commute, stock gears are fine. This Jeep gets all of our highway miles as well, but considering it's a few trips cross the middle of the country per year, regearing is an unnecessary expense for us. This is why many will recommend that you drive it on stock gears, and see for yourself how it is. Everyone has differing needs, and expectations. Also it's easier to downsize tires than it is to regear.... ;)

StrizzyChris 09-26-2011 04:01 PM

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Originally Posted by InfernoGirl (Post 1604880)
First make sure you are reading JK stuff, not TJ stuff. Very few JK's on 4" lift on this forum. It isn't needeed to go over 3" to fit 35's easy. We run 35's on 2.5" lift on the JK.

Second, regearing has nothing to do with lifting, everything to do with what size tires you're trying to push. Regearing regains the perceived power loss due to larger tire size. Different Wranglers come from the factory with different gearing, and so, some find regearing required due to their stock gears as well as their terrain and driving habits. As I mentioned, in flat Indiana with a short daily commute, stock gears are fine. This Jeep gets all of our highway miles as well, but considering it's a few trips cross the middle of the country per year, regearing is an unnecessary expense for us. This is why many will recommend that you drive it on stock gears, and see for yourself how it is. Everyone has differing needs, and expectations. Also it's easier to downsize tires than it is to regear.... ;)

Thanks for all the advice!


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