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bobbav 09-18-2011 07:33 AM

More bass!
 
Hey Everyone - Any ideas and/or pics of how how you all improved on the lack of bass in these toys? Subwoofers, etc?

jtitcomb 09-18-2011 07:44 AM

I just added a new system with Polk Audio speakers. Although not a TON of bass, was definitely a MAJOR improvement...

coley 09-18-2011 07:58 AM

I added one of these to a Sony head unit with Polk marine speakers. I'm really happy with it and it fits nice in the Bestop InstaTrunk. I went with a powered sub because I wanted the option of taking it out and I added an electrical quick disconnect so I can do it easily.

Sounds great even at 65 mph with the top down. :punk::punk::dance::punk::punk:

MTX RT8PT Road Thunder 120-watt powered 8" subwoofer at Crutchfield.com

Tjkindaguy 09-18-2011 08:01 AM

I added a 8 inch sub and new speakers all the way around. With a 600 watt amp. Sounds really good. The bass hits harder if you have the top on it. I put the bass and amp in the "trunk". With one of them trunk
Savers. Nobody can get it. If its locked. But that was so i can keep the seat in. A guy at my school has 2 12's with the back seat out. Puts mine to shame.

That99SaharaGuy 09-18-2011 08:04 AM

Do they make waterproof subs and amps?

03flwrangler 09-18-2011 08:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by That99SaharaGuy
Do they make waterproof subs and amps?

Not sure they are "waterproof" to where they could function submerged but marine electronics can get rained on without issue.

Briangr 09-18-2011 08:43 AM

This is my 10" sub. Comes with everything you need for installation. Its water resistent, and with the back door closed, you wont see it unless you walk up to the jeep. It hits pretty hard. I have it along with a sony xplod head unit, new kickers in the dash, and the vdp 6 speaker sound bar

Vertically Driven Products 7957502A - VDP Subwoofer Kit for 97-02 Jeep® Wrangler TJ - Quadratec

http://i1231.photobucket.com/albums/...0731111331.jpg

That99SaharaGuy 09-18-2011 12:41 PM

So... if the VDP gets wet, it's fine?

snowman555 09-18-2011 12:55 PM

take out back seat, add 2 15"s.-what i did.
if thats not enough bass... remove driver and passenger seat and add 4 for 15"s.

Briangr 09-18-2011 01:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by That99SaharaGuy (Post 1580700)
So... if the VDP gets wet, it's fine?

I havent gotten it wet, but the sub is advertised as water resistent. Id assume the amp may not be?
A little sprinkling probably wouldnt do harm, who knows what heavy rain or submerging it might do...i dont wanna find out with my equipment haha

It comes with a shelf that goes overtop, so its not totally out in the open to get wet

Coastiejeep 09-18-2011 03:49 PM

Rockford Fosgate makes a good amp that is super small that can be mounted behind the glove box (stays out of the elements) and any sub bed line the box and hard wire it (no wire connecter in box) then seal it up good:thumb:

jar7 09-18-2011 04:19 PM

Hey Guys,
Quick question. MY system was factory or dealer installed. Dealer i think. Anyways recently i just went off roaring and the subwoofer goes out occasionally.

Today, i cleaned my jeep and just left the subwoofer on to see if it goes out from playing it. It wasn't on full blast, just a decent sound to hear over the vacuum. It went out after awhile and so i decided to change the sub fuse. Didn't work. SO, once i slammed the tailgate, where the sub is, it starts working.

Any ideas?

Briangr 09-18-2011 04:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Coastiejeep (Post 1581039)
Rockford Fosgate makes a good amp that is super small that can be mounted behind the glove box (stays out of the elements) and any sub bed line the box and hard wire it (no wire connecter in box) then seal it up good:thumb:

If waterproofing is your concern, i would do this. Sounds alot more waterproof than the VDP sub i shared above

coley 09-18-2011 04:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jar7 (Post 1581090)
Hey Guys,
Quick question. MY system was factory or dealer installed. Dealer i think. Anyways recently i just went off roaring and the subwoofer goes out occasionally.

Today, i cleaned my jeep and just left the subwoofer on to see if it goes out from playing it. It wasn't on full blast, just a decent sound to hear over the vacuum. It went out after awhile and so i decided to change the sub fuse. Didn't work. SO, once i slammed the tailgate, where the sub is, it starts working.

Any ideas?

Loose wire/bad connection on the sub.

Forward 09-18-2011 06:42 PM

i have not done this yet but am planning on adding a Pioneer TS-SWX251 10" sub in the back. the dimensions are: 14.4 H X 20.4 L X 8.4 W. It is 800 watt max and 200 watts nominal or RMS, and a Pioneer GM-D7500M this is an 800 watts max and 200 RMS watts under the seat. The sub faces down and you can place stuff on top of it and not mess it up. I am also looking at adding an Alpine KTP-445 amp under the dash to add 4 ch at 45 RMS amps each to the stock dash spekers and the two over head spekers in the roll bar pod. The small bass speker in the console will still be stock. i am plannig to keep the stock radio. This may be all i need. sub is about 120.00 KTP-445 amp is about 125.00 and the sub amp is 125.00.

bobbav 09-19-2011 08:00 AM

WOW!!!!! EXCELLENT suggestions! Thanks for all the URLs and references! I have a Sony Xplod head, but think the speakers are factory. Sounds like am AM radio. I need to do something about this quick, otherwise I might as well just listen to books on tape!!!! :banghead:

PEI_YJ 09-19-2011 01:44 PM

Another option you can look at is a pair of speaker boxes that hold 6x9" speakers. I replaced all my stock speakers (4" and 4x6") but still didn't have quite the bass i was looking for so i picked up the 6x9" boxes on the local classifieds and added a pair of Polk Audio 6x9" and hooked a MTX amp up to it and i might as well have a sub, they hit HARD! So hard that i unhooked and sold my 12" Sony Xplode Slim series sub I had in my "trunk" and sold it. The difference in the sub and the bigger speakers wasn't big enough for me to justify having no cargo room in my trunk. And another point on the Polk Audio units, they are marine certified so water is not a problem. I went offroading with my top off about 6 months ago and managed to pool water in one of the woofers and they still work like a charm.

bobbav 09-19-2011 07:51 PM

Thanks Everyone. And PEI_YJ answered my NEXT question, which is what size are the speakers in a 1997 TJ anyway! So, 4" rounds on the soundbar, and 4x6 in the dash. I suppose no matter WHAT brand you choose, getting bass out os those small sizes is next to impossible....

PEI_YJ 09-19-2011 11:16 PM

I might be wrong but the TJ might have 5.25" in the dash and soundbar, I don't really remember. But your right regardless a woofer that small is going to have a hard time putting out alot of bass

jlstearn 09-22-2011 02:11 AM

When I swapped all my stuff out, I have a 98, the dash speakers were 4x6 and the bar was 6" I believe I also added the "sky pod" that mounts above your rear view mirror put two more 4" closer and more directional with the top off. Then went and put a 400w 12 in a slim box behind the rear seat. The sub is powered by a 500 w alpine mono and the rest is on a rockford 400w 4way I still plan on putting a set of 6"9's in the back when I have time. Oh I went with all kicker with speakers and with the amps on low and the stereo at 30 of 50 your ears hurt....even with the top off doing 70. If anyone wants pics lemme know

bobbav 09-23-2011 07:11 AM

I want pics!!!!!!!!!!!

lemonsbw 09-23-2011 08:55 AM

I've got a 10" in a custom built box I made (so the dang thing would fit in the back) and a 1200 watt amp to power it. Unfortunately after spending $$$ on the rest I got a cheapie head unit from Wally World that is starting to go south on me. Added just enough bass to vibrate the mirrors when I have it cranked and adds just enough thump to slightly feel it at regular levels without taking up too much trunk space. I still have enough room for two ammo cans, mapbook, netting and box o' bungee cords in the back. Don't be too impressed by the ammo cans though, one of them is a tiny one but the other is full sized.

Richd1963 09-27-2011 06:59 AM

Sub enclosures can be had at:
http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e6...h_DSC03730.jpg
Their products are fantastic, although a bit pricey.

jlstearn 09-27-2011 12:24 PM

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Sorry it took so long its nothing impressive but a work in progress. Here are the pics.

desertgoose 09-27-2011 06:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jlstearn
Sorry it took so long its nothing impressive but a work in progress. Here are the pics.

How does that sub sound firing directly into the tailgate?

You'll be better off with it facing forward or down firing.

bobbav 09-27-2011 07:42 PM

Damn jlstearn! IMPRESSIVE!

jlstearn 09-27-2011 08:12 PM

Actually it sounds amazing! For one it bounces off the tailgate so it amplifies it a bit and two I wanted to be able to back up to a campfire or at the beach and still enjoy the bass. I'll be adding two 6x9s on pivots off of the rear vertical roll bar to help with the mids and highs when parked. But when I had the sub flipped the seat sucked up all the sound and I didnt like it rubbing on the dust guard.

desertgoose 09-28-2011 01:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jlstearn (Post 1609532)
Actually it sounds amazing! For one it bounces off the tailgate so it amplifies it a bit and two I wanted to be able to back up to a campfire or at the beach and still enjoy the bass. I'll be adding two 6x9s on pivots off of the rear vertical roll bar to help with the mids and highs when parked. But when I had the sub flipped the seat sucked up all the sound and I didnt like it rubbing on the dust guard.

:thumb: I used to experiment with sub placement in my older vehicles and noticed that the closer they are to the back the worse they sounded. The bass was always louder and cleaner when there was a decent gap between the sub and the back to allow the sound waves to expand. I was curious as I haven't seen any Jeeps with the box built like that, most are downfiring unless they remove their seats for larger subs.

marine13 10-04-2011 10:40 PM

I was thinking about getting one of those. How do you have it installed in the Jeep? Is the speaker facing the side or back of the Jeep? Also, can you hear it with the top off while you are driving?

thanks,!






Quote:

Originally Posted by coley (Post 1580115)
I added one of these to a Sony head unit with Polk marine speakers. I'm really happy with it and it fits nice in the Bestop InstaTrunk. I went with a powered sub because I wanted the option of taking it out and I added an electrical quick disconnect so I can do it easily.

Sounds great even at 65 mph with the top down. :punk::punk::dance::punk::punk:

MTX RT8PT Road Thunder 120-watt powered 8" subwoofer at Crutchfield.com


Richd1963 10-13-2011 11:39 AM

IMHO, the sub must be down firing to get bass with the top off, it certainly seems to be the most efficient way while topless.


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