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rd-wrangler 09-23-2011 01:14 PM

opinions/thoughts needed
 
ok well i have a plan, pretty much set in stone, on what susp. lift and new tires set up im doing. BDS 2" susp. lift, 1" RC shackles, JKS quick discos, american racing outlaw II wheels, and General AT2 tires (31x10.5x15). my initial plan was to go ahead and buy everything at once and get done at once. but that probably wont happen unless i hit the lottery lmao.

so my question is what should i do first?

new tires and wheels with 1" shackles, for a little more clearance.
or
BDS susp. lift with JKS discos. i have stock wrangler rt/s 215s on my jeep now.

just wanted some opinions, thoughts, and different points of views.

thanks

cpisani89 09-23-2011 03:30 PM

do the lift first..then get the tires and whatnot. you dont want to deal with clearance issues..
the shackles are the cheapest and easiest though maybe do those first?

kdub 09-23-2011 10:48 PM

lift

rd-wrangler 09-25-2011 08:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cpisani89 (Post 1597386)
do the lift first..then get the tires and whatnot. you dont want to deal with clearance issues..
the shackles are the cheapest and easiest though maybe do those first?

yeah thats what i was thinking.. but will the boom shackles give the old leaf springs problems?

rd-wrangler 09-25-2011 09:01 PM

plus, wouldnt 215s tires with a total of 3 inch lift be kind of unsafe?

rd-wrangler 10-24-2011 11:36 AM

any other thoughts??

Nubby55 10-24-2011 11:53 AM

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Originally Posted by rd-wrangler (Post 1602990)
plus, wouldnt 215s tires with a total of 3 inch lift be kind of unsafe?


There is nothing unsafe about runing the 215s if the tires are good, it's going to look funny but not unsafe.
I would do the shackles first because, if you have to cut the old shackles off to do the lift and you don't have the new ones you'll be a bind trying to put it back together. if you do shackles first every will come a part easy when you do the lift.

1. Shackles, clearance for tires
2. Tires
3. Lift, and your done!

firstresponder 10-24-2011 01:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Nubby55 (Post 1686653)
There is nothing unsafe about runing the 215s if the tires are good, it's going to look funny but not unsafe.
I would do the shackles first because, if you have to cut the old shackles off to do the lift and you don't have the new ones you'll be a bind trying to put it back together. if you do shackles first every will come a part easy when you do the lift.

1. Shackles, clearance for tires
2. Tires
3. Lift, and your done!

i Like it but i would do a 180 on that order. starting with 3 first

rd-wrangler 10-25-2011 09:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nubby55 (Post 1686653)
There is nothing unsafe about runing the 215s if the tires are good, it's going to look funny but not unsafe.
I would do the shackles first because, if you have to cut the old shackles off to do the lift and you don't have the new ones you'll be a bind trying to put it back together. if you do shackles first every will come a part easy when you do the lift.

1. Shackles, clearance for tires
2. Tires
3. Lift, and your done!


thanks, this is the reply i was looking for. my other concern is how will the boom shackles affect the wear on the old springs? will it cause them to bend in reverse eventually?

rd-wrangler 11-01-2011 01:19 PM

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daddyjeep 11-01-2011 08:04 PM

I dont think the shackles will cause any stress on the stock springs. That is where I started and ran my Jeep like that for a while. One thing that I needed after putting on the 31's was a new steering stabilizer. The heavier tires caused me some severe wobble when I hit bumps. You may be fine, but just keep that in mind.

One thing I see in your plan that I would do differently. Skip the sway bar disconnects. Just take the sway bar off. While you are at it take off the trac bars too. They will do nothing but limit your flex. You wont even know they are gone.

Matcheen 11-01-2011 08:22 PM

Skip the disco's and make your own. Drill a hole through the top bolt of the sway bar link and secure with a couple of washers and a cotter pin. Instant quick disco for $.50

rd-wrangler 11-02-2011 09:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by daddyjeep
I dont think the shackles will cause any stress on the stock springs. That is where I started and ran my Jeep like that for a while. One thing that I needed after putting on the 31's was a new steering stabilizer. The heavier tires caused me some severe wobble when I hit bumps. You may be fine, but just keep that in mind.

One thing I see in your plan that I would do differently. Skip the sway bar disconnects. Just take the sway bar off. While you are at it take off the trac bars too. They will do nothing but limit your flex. You wont even know they are gone.

Alright awesome thanks for help. One thing about the sway bars... I do take a lot of sharp turns and such.. don't the sways help prevent rolling over?

rd-wrangler 11-02-2011 09:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Matcheen
Skip the disco's and make your own. Drill a hole through the top bolt of the sway bar link and secure with a couple of washers and a cotter pin. Instant quick disco for $.50

Interesting... do you happen to have picture?

banks316 11-02-2011 09:42 AM

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Originally Posted by rd-wrangler (Post 1712867)
Alright awesome thanks for help. One thing about the sway bars... I do take a lot of sharp turns and such.. don't the sways help prevent rolling over?

Sway bars prevent the jeep from leaning in the cornors. I bought disco for my jeep and ran the for about two months. One day being tired and lazy I didn't put them back on. I saw very little difference in my jeep. Even with the 8 in lift. So I scrapped the sway bar and jks discos. Remember its a jeep not a race car.

rd-wrangler 11-04-2011 07:51 AM

ok so thanks to everyones advice and opinions im doing the shackles first, then new tires/wheels, then the lift kit and scrapping the sway bar.

Matcheen 11-04-2011 11:18 PM

Lift and shackles first at the same time, then wheels. Keep the sway bars if you drive on the highway or over 45 mph regularly, scrap both front and rear track bars.

Sorry no pics or my home made disco's...and the Heep is in a dark garage right now with no brakes.....

rd-wrangler 11-15-2011 08:45 AM

Quick question... do RC boom shackles come with bushings? I don't see any in the pictures... just curious.

daddyjeep 11-15-2011 08:13 PM

I doubt it. I dont think that any shackle that you buy will come with bushings.

rd-wrangler 11-16-2011 07:59 AM

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Originally Posted by daddyjeep
I doubt it. I dont think that any shackle that you buy will come with bushings.

Half of them do.. depends on brand I guess. Should I get new bushings or say screw it?

rd-wrangler 03-27-2012 12:15 PM

ok well if anyone is interested i pulled the trigger on the BDS 2" susp lift kit, BDS steering stabilizer, MORE boom shackles for front and rear, JKS quick discos, Black Rock Desperado alloy wheels and Goodyear Duratrac 31s. Now im not going to be able to get the tires until like 2 weeks from now.. my friend is hooking me up... so im going to end up doing the lift/steering stabilizer/shackles/discos next weekend first, because it is the harder part. I will only be on my 215s for like 5 days so its not a big deal.

question.. do the JKS discos come already greased? or am i going to have to buy a fitting and grease them?

question... i will be doing this by myself, unfortuntley. i have a 10 gallon 2.5 hp air compressor with an impact gun and ratchet gun. would that be good enough to handle the install?

question... will i need to do an alignment after replacing the suspension and steering stabilizer?

rd-wrangler 03-29-2012 05:51 AM

Anybody???

95YamJam 03-29-2012 06:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rd-wrangler (Post 2187846)
ok well if anyone is interested i pulled the trigger on the BDS 2" susp lift kit, BDS steering stabilizer, MORE boom shackles for front and rear, JKS quick discos, Black Rock Desperado alloy wheels and Goodyear Duratrac 31s. Now im not going to be able to get the tires until like 2 weeks from now.. my friend is hooking me up... so im going to end up doing the lift/steering stabilizer/shackles/discos next weekend first, because it is the harder part. I will only be on my 215s for like 5 days so its not a big deal.

question.. do the JKS discos come already greased? or am i going to have to buy a fitting and grease them?

question... i will be doing this by myself, unfortuntley. i have a 10 gallon 2.5 hp air compressor with an impact gun and ratchet gun. would that be good enough to handle the install?

question... will i need to do an alignment after replacing the suspension and steering stabilizer?

Cool! on all your goodies!

Not sure about the discos, haven't had a swaybar in a year... I DD mine with no swaybar. No issues at all.

Air compressor may or may not help. A sawzall or cutoff wheel may be better. Some of the bolts/bushings are stubborn if rusted solid.

Just make sure your antisieze the crap out of all of it.

No alignment needed unless you need one before the lift.

rd-wrangler 04-04-2012 07:17 AM

thanks for your input 95yamjam, much appreicated.

i figure i am just going to cut all the bolts and not even bother trying to using ratchet tools and whatnot. i think ill save myself a bunch of time and frustration lol.

YJ325i 04-08-2012 12:28 PM

I am in process of this same adventure, I couldn't wait to see the 31's on, so I just removed the fender flares and adjusted the turns stops. Went to the trail, had no rubbing issues whatsoever. Going thru mud, made my interior look interesting. Next is maybe a 2.5" Rubicon express complete lift kit, -shocks, have to get those elsewhre. Maybe a 1" BL in near future, not sure if that is necessary.


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