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tiny terror 09-16-2007 12:50 AM

Dishpan and Cleghorn with Double G and tiny
Headed out as usual way too early in the am toward Big Bear to meet Double G in ArrowBear. Well two missed calls on my phone and one road closed sign later I'm standing at the gas station watching Gene pull in with news that we need to change our plans. Holcomb and Jonh Bull were going to be tough to get to and Holcomb was touch and go because of this....

Welcome to Southern California dry season. The mountain was on fire and there was little chance we were going to wheel where we'd planned. So, we stood looking at maps, laughing at the images of Gene taking his hard top off alone (ok, maybe it was just me laughing), and talking to a couple of Firemen who said that we might be able to get where we wanted to if the trails were open...... they weren't. But we still had a kickin' day out in the wilderness. We didn't wheel Big Bear so much as the area west of it.

Double G drives a hot green monster on 37's that made my jeep kinda sink when he parked next to me....

But i think I held my own for a while.....

Levinoss 09-16-2007 12:54 AM


Eh at least you guys dident pack up and go home, better then no trails at all.

When I got home from the jeep show I yelled at odhinn and oc "IM TIRED OF PAVED ROADS!!!!!!!"


tiny terror 09-16-2007 01:06 AM

I don't think Double G has ever ever packed up and went home. The day was another case of "sure you can make it, I made it" (yes, you did.... on 37's :p)

I have more pictures, but I'm so tired I can't even think anymore. Nite all.

tiny terror 09-16-2007 01:26 AM

Levinoss 09-16-2007 01:31 AM

I see someone changed shirts?


AzTJ 09-16-2007 01:53 AM

Won't look so small when your on 35's though right? :D

That big green machine is one of my fav colors. I would have taken some pics today but never made it out.

Like LEV said, at least you didn't go home, went and had some fun!

tiny terror 09-16-2007 09:21 AM


Originally Posted by Levinoss (Post 137029)
I see someone changed shirts?


I carry a thin long sleeved white shirt in my trail kit because after so many hours, sunscreen just don't do it. You might not get sunburned but you start to feel pretty baked.

AZ, you know, I climbed into Gene's jeep and dang, I must have looked like an idiot. The bottom of the door is above my waist. Not so sure now, guess I need to make sure 35's are exactly what I want before I spring for them. (it is the best color isn't it??)

tiny terror 09-16-2007 10:12 AM

By the way, Gene.... you need a block and tackle next time I ride in your jeep. That way I won't have to monkey my way up into it. :D

Scout 09-16-2007 11:43 AM

Looking great guys!

jeeperman 09-16-2007 12:00 PM

Looks like you guys had a great time out there, wish we had something that looked like that around here!

tiny terror 09-16-2007 01:10 PM

It was a great time. We were out there aaaaaaaaaaaall day. I think the most entertaining part was Gene's "hey, I've never been down this one before" attitude and that was all she wrote.

We spent the day heading where ever and I spent the day watching him eye every single frightening off shoot there was. He'd hesitate for a second, I'd see the gears spinning in his head and there he went.... and then due to my ego, there I went. Though, I think there were a few places that there was just no freaking way. No no no. Not a chance that I was going to go......

Now from that picture, it really doesn't look so bad, but...

from the top, you can see how steep it was. Gene's got a screw loose I think, and encourage others to do the same :D

(I went around, my jeep would have never made it over the ledge halfway up and I'd have just had to stay there for the rest of my life)

OdhinnsChick 09-16-2007 01:22 PM

wow, I agree, better not attempt that one! Looks like fun though.

tiny terror 09-16-2007 01:48 PM

Oh and I forgot. We were halfway down Dishpan (which um...... down is scarier than up any day of the week, thank you) and after much discussion of an area that Gene tip toed through I came to a stop thanks to hanging myself up on my diff. Well, behind us on the mostly empty trails comes a old dude, ciggy hanging out his mouth, antifreeze bottle bungeed to the front bumper of his YJ. He gets out and walks around my jeep, looks under it, takes a drag and says "well hell we got four bodies here, let's lift her up." And I'll be damned it they didn't. Took a couple seconds and Gene and I were on our way again. You gotta love Jeepies.

AzTJ 09-16-2007 04:27 PM


Originally Posted by tiny terror (Post 137059)
AZ, you know, I climbed into Gene's jeep and dang, I must have looked like an idiot. The bottom of the door is above my waist. Not so sure now, guess I need to make sure 35's are exactly what I want before I spring for them. (it is the best color isn't it??)

You have 31's now... and even with my 32's I have to give a little hop to get into mine. The bottom of the door is halfway up my thigh and I'm 6'1". I think you need to test drive a TJ with some 33's on it and see how you feel. Because 31 to 35" tires is a big jump, mainly because of the suspension height. But I think you already know that.:D

RatherBNarizona 09-16-2007 05:06 PM

I love that green Jeep!!

Double G 09-17-2007 11:17 AM

What a day! I'm sure glad Tiny's good with reports and computers, I didn't see a notepad however now I know what she was up to everytime we stopped and all the Q's! The ButlerII fire changed our plan for the best wheelin' I have done in a while!

I'm not good with the numbers on the roads but I do know 2N17X, and previously we decided not to do it, Tiny can let you in on that however like she said, we weren't going to throw in the towel! So west we went, through Dishpan and on through Pinnacles. We did keep moving forward and finally stopped for lunch (I couldn't tell if Tiny's Jeep was getting taller, or lower from all the food and goodies she brought, the boys kept eating - all the time!) Anyway, after we moved on and soon I turned sharp onto the feared (2N17X) and hoped Tiny would too and miss the sign with the #'s, whew, looks like she did! We were having a great time on the trail and finally made it to a real tough spot we had prevoiusly talked about so I stopped. I had to tell her where we were. It was a steep down hill with turns, I knew she could make it (on 31's ;)) so down we went, made it look easy! Further on there were more "pucker factor" places and after our stoppage at dishpan I said if you feel something hit, just gas it a little! On the other side of the lake to the Cleghorn trail we went and yes, there were places I haven't been but heck, you know, it's a Jeep thing! Some tough tricky places great for me since I live so close!

I had a blast, I think we all did, Tiny kept going with her great attitude, picked great lines (in spite of following a Jeep on 37's) and managed to get my Jeep "Nekked!"

Can't wait till next time, if any of the "mall Jeeps" :rofl: around WF want to go, contact me, I'm ready! :wavey:

emills 09-17-2007 12:38 PM

Looks like a great time. Can't wait to get back out with you one day soon. Just need the schedule to lighten up a bit.

We were up in the Angeles Oaks area camping with the family this weekend. Took the wife's Pilot out on some dirt. She called it off roading. But reall - those dirt roads were smoother than most of the paved roads around out house!


tiny terror 09-17-2007 01:15 PM

Eric, don't even.. you guys are avoiding me, I know you are. :p

tiny terror 09-17-2007 04:30 PM


Originally Posted by RatherBNmexico (Post 137206)
I love that green Jeep!!

I know!!!

Gene, block and tackle or a step stool. :D

emills 09-17-2007 05:01 PM


Originally Posted by tiny terror (Post 137578)
Eric, don't even.. you guys are avoiding me, I know you are. :p

I couldn't have been avoiding you since I didn't even know you were going. Next time - tell me first. Then you can say I am avoiding you! ;) :D

1BLKJP 09-17-2007 05:58 PM

Bitchin pics of you and smalls there TT. Looks like some serious fun was had by all. :D And I think you could've made that climb. Just gotta bump it a little. :D

tiny terror 09-17-2007 06:44 PM

Oh you had to see that hill from the bottom and the ledge thing...... I thought Gene was going ass over tea kettle. There was nooooooo way.

Double G 09-18-2007 10:37 AM

I took a couple guys in their Rubicons up the hill on 2N17X on Sunday, they said we could do Cleghorn another time! Cleghorn hill is tough, like 17X used to be. Fun too, you have to weave through some turns further up, just seems to keep going!

And I was thinking maybe a spring board, for short Monkeys!:D

tiny terror 09-18-2007 11:34 AM

Did he just call me a monkey??


Dare2BSquare 09-18-2007 12:03 PM


tiny terror 09-19-2007 10:21 PM

Oh, found some more pictures......

Gene trying to scare me with a downhill that the only way down was to roll end over end.

And just a cool pic with the fire in the background.....

AzTJ 09-19-2007 10:39 PM

Love that last pic Chris. Very cool!

1BLKJP 09-19-2007 10:47 PM

I heard the ecco-terrorists filed an injunction against the fire due to its harm on the environment. :D

tiny terror 09-20-2007 11:24 AM

Is that before or after they filed against the squirrels for digging unsightly holes all over?

1BLKJP 09-20-2007 04:44 PM


Originally Posted by tiny terror (Post 138883)
Is that before or after they filed against the squirrels for digging unsightly holes all over?

I read in ecco-terrorist monthly that the squirrels were the one that started the fire because of the injunction against them taking nuts off the ground and eating them.

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