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MickeTJ 09-30-2011 08:35 AM

How to get a 32RH tranny out? tips & tricks?
 
Hi,

I got water in my transmission due to a to deep puddle, headlight high :whistling:

So now I have to pay the price..

I do not have a garage so im working outside in the cold with little light (Sweden) so exuse my "Swenglish"

Im getting the tranny rebulit, but before that I have to get it out?

This is what I have done:

- Disconnected all hoses, linkage and cables on the Tranny and T-case.
- drained the tranny.
- Droped the skid.
- Removed the filler tube bolt on tranny, but cant get it out of the tranny?
(do I just pull it out or is there any trick to it?)
- Disconnected the driveshafts
-Removed the inspectionplate
-Removed starter
-Unbolted all bolts I think? its 4 on the bellhousing (upper half)

I have tried to pry the thing apart but it wont move?

I can see the "drive-plate" through the inspection hole, do I need to remove some bolts in there aswell? There is a hole inte plate where i can see a bolt?

Any help would be appriciated! I have my brother helping out this weekend but I dont want to cause more damage than I do good.

//Mike

geiman 09-30-2011 09:28 AM

I haven't removed one yet so I have no useful advice, only the hope that this bump to the top will help. My main reason for commenting is to commend you on your English; if only the actual native English speakers on here could speak this well.

QADaemon 09-30-2011 10:14 AM

The bolts from the flex plate to the torque converter are what's holding you back, I believe (unless I mis-read and you got those). I would put the bellhousing bolts back in first; don't want that transmission falling on you.

TJWenatchee 09-30-2011 10:27 AM

I think a lot of us feel your pain. My manual transmission case cracked. Worked fine but leaked like crazy. Just bought a new one instead (No viable core for old one since it was cracked). It was done in 90+ degree weather. I imagine it's getting rather cold over there by now. And your English by the way is great. :thumb:

Jerry Bransford 09-30-2011 10:59 AM

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Originally Posted by QADaemon (Post 1616720)
The bolts from the flex plate to the torque converter are what's holding you back, I believe

X2, that is probably what is holding it in. Use a floor jack or transmission jack to support the transmission as you slide it out to minimize binding or it may feel 'stuck'.

Also, the transmission filler tube just pulls out of the transmission.

You got the top-two E-Torx (reversed torx head) bolts out right? I Think their size is E-12 or E-14, it's been too long since I removed a 32RH for me to remember exactly.

Black Magic Brakes 09-30-2011 11:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Jerry Bransford (Post 1616804)
X2, that is probably what is holding it in. Use a floor jack or transmission jack to support the transmission as you slide it out to minimize binding or it may feel 'stuck'.

He needs to have the engine supported firmly. He also needs to not support the transmission too well as pushing up on it too much will lock it in place on the input shaft as much as letting it hang too much will lock it up and prevent it from sliding back.

I support the engine on the back of oil pan after lowering the back of the trans to access the top two bellhousing bolts and then put a jack under the trans and alternate up and down slightly while watching the gap in the bellhousing to the engine to try and keep it straight so it will pull straight back.

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Also, the transmission filler tube just pulls out of the transmission.
Yep, unbolt it from the block and give it a twist and a tug at the same time and it will pull out.

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You got the top-two E-Torx (reversed torx head) bolts out right? I Think their size is E-12 or E-14, it's been too long since I removed a 32RH for me to remember exactly.
It is politically correct on this board to say "piss on those damn things"?

Very few fasteners ever bother me but those two are a pain in the butt.

MickeTJ 09-30-2011 12:10 PM

Perfect, Thank you guys! :thumb:

I have not removed any Torx screws. Are these on top of the tranny? Are the screwheads on the engine or tranny side?

I have removed 4 bigger bolts, think it was 14 mm (or close enough)

The bolts from flexplate to converter, are these the ones i see through the hole in the flexplate?

Thank you for every tip! I have tought about the tranny and T-case falling on me so I have rigged ropes between the framerails so atleast it wont squish me :eek:

I will give it a final go tomorrow when the sun comes up..

In Sweden, English is the second language so everyone learns it from around 8-9 years old. But its not my native tongue, so Im happy you understand me!

Black Magic Brakes 09-30-2011 12:22 PM

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Originally Posted by MickeTJ (Post 1616926)
Perfect, Thank you guys! :thumb:

I have not removed any Torx screws. Are these on top of the tranny? Are the screwheads on the engine or tranny side?

Transmission side.

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I have removed 4 bigger bolts, think it was 14 mm (or close enough)

The bolts from flexplate to converter, are these the ones i see through the hole in the flexplate?
Yes, remove the inspection cover and you can loosen all of them by using the wrench to turn the convertor for each one. There is just enough room to hold one with a prybar and then loosen the other one. Loosen them all and them remove them one at a time.

Put another way, use the wrench to tighten the bolt and spin the convertor all the way across the opening until you can see the other bolt. Hold the second bolt, loosen the first and remove it. Put the wrench on the bolt you were holding and tighten it to move the convertor. It's a small puzzle in logic, but once you do the first one, it's obvious.

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Thank you for every tip! I have tought about the tranny and T-case falling on me so I have rigged ropes between the framerails so atleast it wont squish me :eek:

I will give it a final go tomorrow when the sun comes up..
Remove the ropes and hold the oil pan up with a jackstand and a piece of wood on top to stop from denting the oil pan. You need the transmission to be free to move. Also, with it tilted down, remove the t-case using the 6 nuts on the studs. It's much easier to handle the transmission that way. Oil will drain out of the transmission when you pull the t-case, so have a drain pan ready.

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In Sweden, English is the second language so everyone learns it from around 8-9 years old. But its not my native tongue, so Im happy you understand me!
English is my first language and I hope you understand me. :D

MickeTJ 10-02-2011 04:09 PM

Haha yes I do understand you, but have to agree that some replys would not make my englishteacher happy..

But with your advice I finaly got it out today!

Did not have any E-torx, someone has probably change these before to standard bolts?

The only thing I wrecked was the fillertube, Did try to twist and pull but it did not come loose? So I decided to keep it in.

Once on the ground I tried again but it snapped right at the tranny.
If I had seen it at first, I would have removed the O-ring before pulling on it. Will be interesting to find out how much that tube cost..

Hope someone els reads this before they do the same...

And no water in transmisson.. Must be something els??

MickeTJ 01-07-2012 05:46 PM

Hate this tranny.. 32RH
 
I hate this tranny..

Got my transmission back from the shop in late november after a 2 week rebuild. They did not find any conclusive evidence of water but it was rebuilt with a new converter.

They installed a breatherhose via a brassfitting from the existing breatherhole and through the bellhousing.

I installed it and topped up with 350 dollars worth of ATF:nonono:

Followed the shops directions and did not put it in reverse before I had drove it for a few kilometers. (could damage the pump, for some reason?)

Worked perfect beside a little grinding noise in reverse when I start it up from cold. Did not think of it to much so I have driven it since then.

Today I thought of checking all the fluids again, and I saw that the trannyfluid looked like pink milkshake.. :banghead::banghead::banghead:

Just closed the hood and went inside to cry...(lost 1600 in oil and rebuild)

So my guess is that the radiator is leaking coolant?how would I know?

OR the homemade breatherhose that is extended inside the engine compartment is condensing the air to water when its cold outside?

Is there any other way water can enter the tranny? could it be the shop making a mistake when they rebuilt it?

Jerry Bransford 01-07-2012 06:34 PM

$350 in ATF? :eek: How many quarts of ATF did you fill it with and what did you pay per quart? Are you sure it wasn't overfilled?

MickeTJ 01-08-2012 02:18 AM

I know.. I had to buy it from the dealer.
It was about 8 liters to fill it up, and it was about 45 dollars per liter (recalculated from swedish crowns)

Im pretty sure i Did not overfill. I toped it off when it was in neutral and running.

Could a overfill lead to water ?

Jerry Bransford 01-08-2012 12:39 PM

It's certainly not overfilled providing your torque converter was empty to start with. Nothing that was done to your transmission could actually cause water to form. I'm thinking maybe you have a radiator problem letting coolant into your ATF.

Here's some reading for you... http://www.peoplestransmission.com/blog/?p=66

Black Magic Brakes 01-08-2012 09:13 PM

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Originally Posted by MickeTJ (Post 1899497)
I know.. I had to buy it from the dealer.
It was about 8 liters to fill it up, and it was about 45 dollars per liter (recalculated from swedish crowns)

Im pretty sure i Did not overfill. I toped it off when it was in neutral and running.

Could a overfill lead to water ?

At that price, contact one of us over here and have it shipped over. There is no way it will cost 45 dollars a liter even with the multiples of packages we will have to send. I sent some stuff to someone on here in Saudi Arabia and it was only 50 dollars in shipping.

98-Wrangler-kid 05-19-2013 08:53 PM

thanks a ton.
 
My brother and I have done the same thing over at the badlands in indana ( maybe thats why they call it that?). but long story short we got mucky sandy water in the tranny, and we did try to do backyard style. but when we founds sand in the value body and after many filter changes and flushes.:surrender:
I think that im just going to pull the transmission out and let the pros rebuild it.

thanks for all the advice that you guys said will try to keep it all in mind and try hard not to break to much stuff.

JMiller88 07-07-2013 03:09 PM

what size bolt holds the filler tube in place?


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