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Car123 10-09-2011 10:41 PM

Hi-lift Jack?????
 
How important is a Hi-Lift jack While off-roading????

Redsand 10-09-2011 10:44 PM

its one of the most valuable tools you can have with you

jk'n 10-09-2011 10:44 PM

Well, when you need one and you don't have it, you'll know you should have gotten one. I just used mine to yank out a dozen fence posts for my next door neighbor. He was sweating the job and didn't know you could do that with one. Turns out, in addition to being an excellent jeep accessory, it has a lot of uses around the house/farm for yanking things out of the ground.

I haven't used mine wheeling yet. I want to get a beefier bumper before I go jacking on it and driving off of it.

Irongrave 10-09-2011 10:46 PM

I hate mine, and rarely use it. a bottle jack or trolley jack is a lot safer to chage a tire while on the trail. They are really unsafe to use and I've been around them for years (around a farm) and I still hate them.

jk'n 10-09-2011 10:46 PM

I'd use it on my 92 while wheeling in a heartbeat. It has solid bumpers. Bumpers are high on my priority list for mods for my 08.

Car123 10-09-2011 10:46 PM

what else could you do with it?

jk'n 10-09-2011 10:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Irongrave (Post 1642041)
I hate mine, and rarely use it. a bottle jack or trolley jack is a lot safer to chage a tire while on the trail. They are really unsafe to use and I've been around them for years (around a farm) and I still hate them.

I don't know how safe those would be on the trail though. If changing a tire you can always support the jeep with something that you can find on the trail. If you brought a chain saw with you for instance you could use a log for support. I think the tire change is more of a rarity than, say, getting hung up on a high spot and needing to put the wheels back in contact with the earth. For that the high lift is the jack of choice. Simple and can work on the bumper. I wouldn't recommend driving off of a bottle jack but on the trail after jacking to regain traction, you could easily drive off of the high lift if you had to. Better to just set it down on some debris though after jacking it up.

JIMBOX 10-09-2011 11:02 PM

:whistling: It has a multitude of uses, from moving the front/rear of your jeep over left/right, changing tire/setting bead/lifting entire jeep side to build up "lift" under tires and-

Once when I took my little Sevylor fishing boat to a high lake, I had forgoten the anchor and --YUP


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Originally Posted by Car123 (Post 1642045)
what else could you do with it?

Took the HiLift "foot" off and used the 48"/base as an anchor-

Now that ain't in the manual !

:dance::rofl: JIMBO

Redsand 10-09-2011 11:05 PM

it would be a pretty crappy day but you can use it as a winch, but it wouldnt be fun

jk'n 10-09-2011 11:05 PM

Jimbo, you've done it again. Who'd a thunk?.....an anchor! Let me add that to the many uses of a high lift. I'm impressed! :D

off a cough 10-09-2011 11:10 PM

Never use a hi-lift to change a tire unless conditions prohibit any other possible alternative.

The hi-lift is good to get you over an obstacle, esp if you're high-centered or something. It can be used to tweak your Jeep a little one direction or the other to get around a tree. There are a number of creative uses and it can save you.

I've never needed mine. I had it bolted on my TJ for years. It was extra weight and the paint has flaked off from road salt.

I'll clean it up and figure a way to take it with me when I need it, and leave it at home the rest of the time.

Or better yet, remember that you generally only need one for an entire party of Jeeps running a trail together...

Let me repeat, though, don't change a tire with a hi-lift.

Car123 10-09-2011 11:12 PM

haha jimbo thats awesome!!!!!!

CG3 10-09-2011 11:16 PM

I have a buddy that got himself high centered on something... he used his high lift to jack his toyo up and shove it off the lift about 3 times... voile' - no longer high centered...

jk'n 10-09-2011 11:21 PM

If you are out in the middle of the woods and need to change your tire, I wouldn't want to try it with the stock scissors jack. I would go with the high lift. I wouldn't ever be putting any part of my body under the jeep though while it is jacked.

jkaufman_95 10-09-2011 11:24 PM

I was totally against them. But my mind can be changed. They have a lot of valid uses. I might have to get one. They also make a spreader tip for the top that can be used as a vehicle extraction device which is cool.

jkaufman_95 10-09-2011 11:24 PM

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Originally Posted by jk'n
If you are out in the middle of the woods and need to change your tire, I wouldn't want to try it with the stock scissors jack. I would go with the high lift. I wouldn't ever be putting any part of my body under the jeep though while it is jacked.

I carry jack stands. But that doesn't do well in mud

jk'n 10-09-2011 11:28 PM

A foot square piece of plywood under the jack helps in the soft stuff.

zaitcev 10-09-2011 11:32 PM

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Originally Posted by jk'n (Post 1642261)
I wouldn't ever be putting any part of my body under the jeep though while it is jacked.

A properly maintained Hi-Lift is quite unlikely to drop the load. Not to get under a raised jeep is a reasonable precaution, and it will keep you safe. However, using Hi-Lift improperly is hazardous in different ways, especially when switching the direction. The most dangerous part is to get hit with the free-swinging handle, if you lose control of it.

P.S. Hi-Lift is hazardous if you do not follow instructions to the letter for the reasons of being tired, drunk, or complacent.

jk'n 10-09-2011 11:36 PM

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Originally Posted by zaitcev (Post 1642308)
A properly maintained Hi-Lift is quite unlikely to drop the load. Not to get under a raised jeep is a reasonable precaution, and it will keep you safe. However, using Hi- improperly is hazardous in different ways, especially when switching the direction. The most dangerous part is to get hit with the free-swinging handle, if you lose control of it.

Totally agree with all of this. Knowing how it is used and being careful during use is reasonable with any procedure that can have disastrous consequences if not paying attention to details of safety.

Car123 10-09-2011 11:57 PM

So buy a Hi-Lift would be a good idea?

off a cough 10-10-2011 12:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Car123 (Post 1642409)
So buy a Hi-Lift would be a good idea?

Think about where you wheel and problems you've run into, or might run into. How would you personally use it? Not everyone's wheeling would require it.

Although you might think they look cool, just don't bolt the thing on and carry it back and forth to work every day. It's heavy and just going to burn gas.

CG3 10-10-2011 12:49 AM

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Originally Posted by jk'n (Post 1642291)
A foot square piece of plywood under the jack helps in the soft stuff.

I went to a scrap metal yard, and found a 12x14" - about 3/8" thick piece of stainless steel. I put strips of 3M anti skid tape on both sides. It slides under my mat in the back... haven't had to use it, but? Maybe it will work...

jkaufman_95 10-10-2011 12:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CG3

I went to a scrap metal yard, and found a 12x14" - about 3/8" thick piece of stainless steel. I put strips of 3M anti skid tape on both sides. It slides under my mat in the back... haven't had to use it, but? Maybe it will work...

That seems like it would be effective.

jk'n 10-10-2011 06:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CG3 (Post 1642532)
I went to a scrap metal yard, and found a 12x14" - about 3/8" thick piece of stainless steel. I put strips of 3M anti skid tape on both sides. It slides under my mat in the back... haven't had to use it, but? Maybe it will work...

I agree. Thanks for the idea. Now you've got me looking for something similar.

zaitcev 10-10-2011 10:30 AM

I only used my Hi-Lift for recovery once, after being high-centered. I still have plastic bumpers, so I drove its nose into wheel spokes, then threw rocks under the raised wheel until I was able to roll off. The question is, is the jack worth it? Well, I also carry a spare tire and never had to use it, so I suppose Hi-Lift was more useful than spare, for me.

CG3 10-10-2011 11:23 AM

I think it's rather like insurance. If you have it, you most likely won't need it. If you don't, you'll need it for sure...

JIMBOX 10-10-2011 11:44 AM

:whistling: I've been using a HiLift for over 40 years and I've ALWAYS kept them inside and either booted (snow/mud/dirt) or wrapped--

About 6 months ago, I gotta HiLift "JACKGUARD" and it'a a black case that encloses the jack and makes strapped storage easy and allows you to carry it anywhere with one hand--kinda like a gun case/w handle-

Quadratec-Pt#92200.100/$29.99--

Handy/dandy

:dance::rofl: JIMBO

Chomperz 08-01-2014 03:01 PM

Thread Ressurection!
 
Noobie question here... I feel silly for asking, but I'm gonna throw it out there anyways...

How do you know how high of a jack you need? Simply by how high your Jeep is?

Climber195 08-01-2014 03:23 PM

I have a question that can be related to Chomperz's question:

Can I use Hi-Lift to jack up my stock Rubicon by the rock rails doing something like tire changing?

mommymallcrawler 08-01-2014 03:34 PM

I am not an expert but I have only seen two sizes - 48 and 60. I went to my local offroad shop when i wanted to get Lunatic one for his birthday. He is lifted and on 37s. They said the 48. Another issue with the 60 is that limits mounting options.

I do not believe it would be a good idea to jack the whole weight on the rails but leave this to others who know more than I do.


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