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SRPs 2012 10-12-2011 08:10 PM

Wrangler Winter Preparation
 
I need some advice from you wonderful knowledgeable wrangler owners.
I have a 2011 JK that I need to get prepared for the winter. Basically, what should I keep inside to assist? Right now the only item I have is the device to cut the seatbelt and break the glass if needed.

I am getting the following installed on Friday.
Quadratec: Image Zoom
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14013 - Bushwacker TrailArmor Hood & Tailgate Protector for 07-12 Jeep® Wrangler & Wrangler Unlimited JK - Quadratec

What should I get to keep in the storage bags? I could only think of jumper cables and a flashlight. Any other mods you think would be beneficial? Fuel door covers are back ordered everywhere. Does the snow or ice get on the gas cap for those without a fuel door cover?

Thanks!

computeruser 10-12-2011 08:53 PM

What are you trying to accomplish and where are you venturing? That will determine much of your packing and preparation needs. Also know your limits - you do yourself no favors venturing into things you ought not venture into.

Consider your current tires first and foremost, as All-Season and All-Terrain do not equal good winter tires by any stretch of the imagination - the improvements gained with a set of dedicated winter tires will be huge. Having daily driven a Jeep (YJ, TJ) for the past 12 winters on both A/T and M/T tires, I am completely sold on the winter tire idea. Pictured: Yokahama Geolandar I/T
http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e1...now_Tire_1.jpg

The following are a few general ideas, based upon what has been useful for me in the past during winter usage, for myself and for helping others, in and around civilization; one's needs in the backcountry will be a different creature altogether, obviously. This list isn't complete, just a few things that I've put to use in the wintertime and was glad that I had with me. If you have a winch, you'll need to pack gear for its use and maintenance, too.

For yourself:
-Shovel or two (a big coal/manure shovel is great to have along as a second shovel if bigger snow drifts are an issue)
-Proper recovery points front and rear
-Tow strap AND recovery (aka snatch, kinetic) strap
-Shackles
-Gloves
-Extra jug of washer fluid
-Flashlights, as in plural
-Headlamp
-Basic tool kit, or more advanced if you can put it to use
-Air compressor+plug kit
-Supplemental lighting, particularly to the rear of your vehicle
-Extra clothing as needed, but definitely an extra jacket, boots, and socks
-Snacks, water
-Blanket/sleeping bag
-Towel
-Good jack, extra lug nuts (think: A Christmas Story), and a non-slip base for your jack
-First aid kit and knowledge in its use
-Fire extinguisher (4-5lb w/ hose preferred)
-Extra fuel if there is even the slightest possibility that it might come in handy
-CB and scanner, as you can occasionally learn useful things from truckers and emergency response vehicles


For helping others (if you care to do that sort of thing):
-Extra gloves
-Long-handled, small-head shovel for digging underneath low-clearance vehicles that are mired in snow
-Small sack of salt and/or sand
-Short recovery strap or "tree strap" in the 6-10' range, to use as a short strap when working in tight quarters (think: pulling someone off the berm of snow left at the end of their driveway, where there is no need for a 30' strap or a running start)
-Transit cluster (but know its limitations and how best to safely use it for a task that it wasn't really intended to perform)
-Hammer to pound the screw-in goes-in-the-covered-hole-in-the-bumper tie-down points on modern vehicles that use such things, since the grease and dirt in the screw hole will be hard and the recovery eye won't self-thread easily
-Snacks, water enough to share
-Hand/feet warmer pack things, since the person you're trying to help may have been trying to help themselves for a while before you happen upon them

daggo66 10-12-2011 09:35 PM

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Originally Posted by SRPs 2012 (Post 1652892)
Does the snow or ice get on the gas cap for those without a fuel door cover?

Thanks!

That has never been an issue and I've been in some snow.

http://i674.photobucket.com/albums/v...s/scan0005.jpg

swift6060 10-12-2011 09:42 PM

That picture rocks. You don't get much seeped than that.

daggo66 10-12-2011 10:25 PM

That storm dropped 34" of snow. I was on my way to volunteer at the local hospital where for the next 48 hours I helped drive doctors and nurses to and from work.

demarpaint 10-13-2011 05:07 AM

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Originally Posted by daggo66 (Post 1653502)
That storm dropped 34" of snow. I was on my way to volunteer at the local hospital where for the next 48 hours I helped drive doctors and nurses to and from work.

Awesome daggo! How was it getting around in that mess? I was actually pretty impressed with how our 08 Liberty did in this past winter. We're on a dead end, and typically the plows get to us last leaving a big pile of snow at the end of the block.

daggo66 10-13-2011 06:51 AM

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Originally Posted by demarpaint (Post 1654015)
Awesome daggo! How was it getting around in that mess? I was actually pretty impressed with how our 08 Liberty did in this past winter. We're on a dead end, and typically the plows get to us last leaving a big pile of snow at the end of the block.

I grew up in NJ so I was used to driving in snow. My wife thought about joining me with her 08 Liberty, but it didn't really have the ground clearance for that type of duty. She did end up driving co-workers to work for a week. I was pleasantly surprised at how well the stock GY SRA's performed.

Experience goes a long way, just as in most off road situations. The NG was helping out as well and even though they had fully capable Humvees, many of the drivers were not experienced driving in snow and were afraid to go to some areas. Getting into the side streets that had been walled up by plows was an issue. One time I recalled passing a plow clearing out a parking lot just up the road. I went back and explained what I was doing and he agreed to open the entrance of the road for me.

One doctor tried to pay me and after refusing I decided to level with him. I told him that I was actually being quite selfish. I was having a blast driving anywhere I wanted on streets that were closed except for emergency vehicles. I had a dashboard placard that let me go anywhere I wanted. The hospital gave us all the coffee we wanted and provided food. (The hot soup from the cafeteria alone was worth it!) On top of that they gave us vouchers from a local gas station to get gas.

DrCloud 10-13-2011 07:05 AM

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Originally Posted by computeruser (Post 1653072)
...Consider your current tires first and foremost, as All-Season and All-Terrain do not equal good winter tires by any stretch of the imagination - the improvements gained with a set of dedicated winter tires will be huge. Having daily driven a Jeep (YJ, TJ) for the past 12 winters on both A/T and M/T tires, I am completely sold on the winter tire idea.

I've wondered about this -- I'm glad to see this point made.

I've also wondered about getting the (Rubi) OEM BFGs siped. That's not kosher for rock crawling, I know, but surely it would help them do better in winter conditions. HPH

computeruser 10-13-2011 07:28 AM

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Originally Posted by DrCloud (Post 1654159)
I've wondered about this -- I'm glad to see this point made.

I've also wondered about getting the (Rubi) OEM BFGs siped. That's not kosher for rock crawling, I know, but surely it would help them do better in winter conditions. HPH

If the muds are new, you'll probably be OK, though your stopping ability will be relatively bad on icy hardpack. Once they have a few years of wear on them, the tread blocks will have lost their crisp edges, and that's when the sliding really begins. I drove a couple winters on BFG MTs and got around fine, especially in deeper snow where the MTs actually shine, but on-road I used 4wd far more often than I did with with the ATs or snow tires - 4wd gave me more wheels to share the load of compression braking, ability to use throttle to manage turns, etc. I would think that some siping would help you.

As an experiment, I tried to see how long I could go without 4wd last winter with the snow tires on. Except for one snow storm event and one ice event, I got around everywhere I needed to go the rest of the winter in 2wd with a limited slip rear, thanks to the dedicated winter tires.

cu in oz 10-13-2011 07:37 AM

Tom: What a wonderful way to help your community. Way to go!

Anyone who are still running the SRA Goodyear Wranglers: How are they for "normal" winter driving. I KNOW they are not true snow tires, but I really don;t want to spend more money at this time on a vehicle I have 4WD. It would 'assume' they would be ok-so-so with the 4WD engaged but limited in pure unbroken snow.

Thoughts?

daggo66 10-13-2011 08:11 AM

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Originally Posted by cu in oz (Post 1654222)
Tom: What a wonderful way to help your community. Way to go!

Anyone who are still running the SRA Goodyear Wranglers: How are they for "normal" winter driving. I KNOW they are not true snow tires, but I really don;t want to spend more money at this time on a vehicle I have 4WD. It would 'assume' they would be ok-so-so with the 4WD engaged but limited in pure unbroken snow.

Thoughts?

I did that with Goodyear SRA's! I thought they were remarkably good. Much better than I anticipated due to all the negative reviews about them. I was actually considering keeping them or upgrading to GY Silent Armors until I got a great deal on Rubi takeoffs.

My wife has Goodyear SRA's on her Liberty and they are very good. The tread life is amazing. When the time comes, if it ever does, we will probably go with GY Silent Armor for the Liberty.

cu in oz 10-13-2011 08:25 AM

VERY much appreciated. I had hoped the SR/A's would be AOK. As I have stated in the past, my ride is really a DD and some frequent use on dirt/forest roads deer hunting as well as putting my fishing skiff in off rock/packed sand beaches and of course snow.

Here on the SouthCoast we can get some dozzy storms but usually they get the roads plowed and they remain slushy within 24 hrs. Downside is TONS of freekin salt......God how they love to sale here.

I applaud you Community Activity.

Your the type of individual every community needs (everywhere needs lots of them) who picth in in times of need. Sometimes its little things (shovel out the fire hydrants on your street) that enhance the quality of everyones life....your efforts in driving DR's to hospital was huge.

We all can and should do what we can......its really a small world.

daggo66 10-13-2011 09:00 AM

It wasn't all that giving of myself. I really had a blast. There were about a dozen of us involved.

SilverFun 10-13-2011 09:20 AM

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Originally Posted by cu in oz (Post 1654222)
Tom: What a wonderful way to help your community. Way to go!

Anyone who are still running the SRA Goodyear Wranglers: How are they for "normal" winter driving. I KNOW they are not true snow tires, but I really don;t want to spend more money at this time on a vehicle I have 4WD. It would 'assume' they would be ok-so-so with the 4WD engaged but limited in pure unbroken snow.

Thoughts?

I have been using my SR/A's the past two winters and we had lots of snow like Daggo had and i had NO problems at all driving in the snow. I don't understand the negative reviews about them. They are great all around tire.

I am looking forward to this winter !

bdizz 10-13-2011 09:56 AM

I would totally love to do something like that. How did you get involved? Did you just call up the local hospital?

SRPs 2012 10-13-2011 05:09 PM

Computeruser: Thanks for the thorough response.

Great photo!!! Even better list. Definitely going to get sof these. I hope items will fit where I need them to fit. Shared the list with another coworker who plans to get some of these items as well. Thanks!

demarpaint 10-13-2011 05:39 PM

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Originally Posted by daggo66 (Post 1654359)
It wasn't all that giving of myself. I really had a blast. There were about a dozen of us involved.

Nice! I'd be interested in doing something like that as well. Odds are business will be dead this winter and I'm less than a mile away from a hospital.

A bit OT but where do you inquire about doing this type of work?

daggo66 10-13-2011 07:21 PM

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Originally Posted by bdizz (Post 1654467)
I would totally love to do something like that. How did you get involved? Did you just call up the local hospital?

Quote:

Originally Posted by demarpaint (Post 1655587)
Nice! I'd be interested in doing something like that as well. Odds are business will be dead this winter and I'm less than a mile away from a hospital.

A bit OT but where do you inquire about doing this type of work?

Just contact the hospital. IIRC I originally signed up with someone in their security department, but each hospital could be different.

KSCRUDE 10-13-2011 08:03 PM

All I am doing for winter is installing a eaton elocker in the front end as I have limited slip in the rear. Only reason I am doing this is because I am regearing to 4.88 ratio gears as this mopar thingy is the most grossly miss geared car I have ever owned. and this is with stock tires and wheels. So while it is out I will put in the elocker just for fun. Oh and always keep a jug of crown in the jeep incase of snow snake bite!

KSCRUDE 10-13-2011 08:07 PM

Almost forgot the 12 gauge Winchester defender, and a few boxes of amo, and a cell phone but they all stay in year around.

tribangle 10-13-2011 08:17 PM

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Originally Posted by daggo66

That has never been an issue and I've been in some snow.

Great photo!

daggo66 10-13-2011 08:21 PM

That object in the front left is our Liberty.

KSCRUDE 10-13-2011 08:28 PM

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Originally Posted by daggo66 (Post 1656167)
That object in the front left is our Liberty.

What happened to the street sign post? Snow plow or drunk driver maybe.

IP0VV3R 10-13-2011 09:03 PM

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Originally Posted by KSCRUDE
Almost forgot the 12 gauge Winchester defender, and a few boxes of amo, and a cell phone but they all stay in year around.

Have you ever thought about getting the Judge?

KSCRUDE 10-13-2011 09:12 PM

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Originally Posted by ZMAN-football (Post 1656382)
Have you ever thought about getting the Judge?

Keep one of them in my F250 year around. SS with the 2.5 cylinder and a 2.5 inch barrel. 4.10 gauge, and also 45 long colt. I prefer the 4.10 triple ought buck, 4 big pellets to the round. Bigger the double ought. Never have tried the 45 long colt.


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