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jsbrandon 10-19-2011 09:41 PM

Lift Kit Brands
 
Just wanted some thoughts on a few of the lift kit brands I've been researching. Have any of you had problems or really liked some of these listed below?

Rusty's
DPG
BDS

I know I'm probably going to open a can of worms here but this market is so flooded and everyone claims to have the best product in the industry. I have a few months to save and I don't wanna have regrets! Especially how much coin I'm gonna dump into this project!

fabrikate_it 10-20-2011 09:15 AM

I like Rusty's i have used their 4.5" XJ lift it rocked! don't know DPG but BDS makes great stuff and they own Zone Offroad which is their less expensive kits.

burton160w 10-20-2011 09:21 AM

Rustys rapes you on shipping. BDS kits are excellent with a great reputation and DPG I have never heard of but I'm checking out the website now :wavey:

Zone Offroad makes the best lifts. :punk:

ygohome 10-20-2011 10:22 AM

I've been extremely happy with Rock Krawler suspensions.

Imped 10-20-2011 11:09 AM

Instead of looking at the companies and just taking their word for it, you need to understand the difference between quality and crap. There's more to this stuff than "lift kits".....you're modifying your suspension and need to have a good understanding of the components and systems you're changing.

Rustys--total crap. By far the worst joints in the industry, next to no CS, and if you look at some of their products, you'll ask yourself why anyone would buy them.

BDS--Good springs and shocks but other than that, I wouldn't bother. Poly bushings galore and poor geometry practices in their long arm kit tell me they care more about easy packaging than performance.

DPG--not really a brand but more like a website or store. He uses some good stuff--JKS, OME. IMO, you've got a brain in your head and can make your own decisions after some research. You'll probably end up paying less and getting more if you do it right.

Look at Currie for the best components on the market. They're in the business of making the highest quality, longest lasting, most durable stuff you can throw on a rig, period. Savvy Offroad is an excellent vendor of Currie products and also has some nice stuff to boot. Check them out if you want to build a kick-ass rig. If all you're doing is looking for some extra height to fit some larger tires that look good at the show n' shine, don't take my advice.

SirGeorgeKillian 10-20-2011 11:13 AM

Man, I guess I need to take my Rusty's kit off before the joints fall apart or something:rolleyes:

I haven't had any problem my lift from Rusty's.

Imped 10-20-2011 11:21 AM

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Originally Posted by SirGeorgeKillian (Post 1675557)
Man, I guess I need to take my Rusty's kit off before the joints fall apart or something:rolleyes:

I haven't had any problem my lift from Rusty's.

That doesn't mean you won't.....

Order up a Currie JJ, pull out your Rustys joint, and compare. Disassemble them and compare, as well. You'll see what I'm referring to if you don't already hear and feel it.

With that said, the only Rustys joints I've had the pleasure of handling were ones on a rig that saw pretty hardcore trail use--lots of rocks, heavy articulation, etc. They were to the point of being past shot. All joints had massive amounts of play in them and the center ball would just flop around--zero preload. The bushing on the other end was even worse. The sleeve and bushing material were completely separated, rendering it completely useless. I was so impressed that I took a quick video of it and posted it on Youtube. That goes for all of the arms....the rig was almost undrivable on the road after less than two years. So, you can either be dramatically immature or realistic. I know the product and I know the difference. You don't. I also know that so far, everyone I've talked to about these joints have had similar experiences.

You're welcome to argue with me to the 4th quarter or accept the fact that I've seen a bit more in this particular department.

IndyJeepMan 10-20-2011 11:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Imped

That doesn't mean you won't.....

Order up a Currie JJ, pull out your Rustys joint, and compare. Disassemble them and compare, as well. You'll see what I'm referring to if you don't already hear and feel it.

With that said, the only Rustys joints I've had the pleasure of handling were ones on a rig that saw pretty hardcore trail use--lots of rocks, heavy articulation, etc. They were to the point of being past shot. All joints had massive amounts of play in them and the center ball would just flop around--zero preload. The bushing on the other end was even worse. The sleeve and bushing material were completely separated, rendering it completely useless. I was so impressed that I took a quick video of it and posted it on Youtube. That goes for all of the arms....the rig was almost undrivable on the road after less than two years. So, you can either be dramatically immature or realistic. I know the product and I know the difference. You don't. I also know that so far, everyone I've talked to about these joints have had similar experiences.

You're welcome to argue with me to the 4th quarter or accept the fact that I've seen a bit more in this particular department.

Ive happen to seen these exact joints on the rig he is referring too. He is a local IndyORV guy and he wheels some rough stuff and I can agree with Imped, they were more than shot. The poly bushing were smoked beyong fixable and the flex joint was so loose that they were close to falling apart.

Of course, everyone may have different luck with the same products.

Ibuildembig 10-20-2011 11:37 AM

There are joints out there that are just as good as a currie, you just have to look around :)

Imped 10-20-2011 11:39 AM

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Originally Posted by IndyJeepMan (Post 1675604)
Ive happen to seen these exact joints on the rig he is referring too. He is a local IndyORV guy and he wheels some rough stuff and I can agree with Imped, they were more than shot. The poly bushing were smoked beyong fixable and the flex joint was so loose that they were close to falling apart.

Of course, everyone may have different luck with the same products.

:thumb:

I still give him shit about those things.
Quote:

Originally Posted by Ibuildembig (Post 1675612)
There are joints out there that are just as good as a currie, you just have to look around :)

Agreed. I've got a couple Ruffstuff rod ends and would put the quality on the same level. But IMO, you can't beat Currie's joint for a DD/wheeler.

Ibuildembig 10-20-2011 11:43 AM

The ones I am running now are 40 bucks for a 2.5" forged piece and that includes the nut and weld in bung.....price versus price, the currie ones are alot higher

Imped 10-20-2011 11:49 AM

Care to disclose the brand? That's cheap as shit.

Will they hold up to 50k+ miles of DD and hard wheeling before needing any attention? If not, I don't really care. :D

geiman 10-20-2011 11:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Imped (Post 1675549)
BDS--Good springs and shocks but other than that, I wouldn't bother. Poly bushings galore and poor geometry practices in their long arm kit tell me they care more about easy packaging than performance.

Same stands for lifts from Zone off-road. Just got done "upgrading" (more like fixing) my Zone 4" lift to what it should have included to begin with. The poly style bushings (they're actually not poly on the Zone stuff; much softer than that but have the same effect) raped my CA mounts. The bushings in the arms themselves were also pretty much ruined, and had I needed to reuse those arms I would have had to buy all new bushings in order to get everything tight. All this was only after a year of use.

Luckily I was just moving the lift parts from one TJ to a "nused" one so I didn't have to worry about fixing the mounts. I've now got CAs from Savvy (among other things) on my "nused" Jeep and the difference is night and day.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Imped (Post 1675549)
Look at Currie for the best components on the market. They're in the business of making the highest quality, longest lasting, most durable stuff you can throw on a rig, period. Savvy Offroad is an excellent vendor of Currie products and also has some nice stuff to boot. Check them out if you want to build a kick-ass rig. If all you're doing is looking for some extra height to fit some larger tires that look good at the show n' shine, don't take my advice.

x2

geiman 10-21-2011 09:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ibuildembig (Post 1675628)
The ones I am running now are 40 bucks for a 2.5" forged piece and that includes the nut and weld in bung.....price versus price, the currie ones are alot higher

Any update on what joint that was?

Ibuildembig 10-21-2011 09:57 AM

Oh yeah sorry.....Harsh Terrain. I have them on my 5K pound truggy with a big block and 42's and have yet to have a failure. They are also alot easier to take apart if you have to. The curries are fine, I ran them about 8-9 years ago when they came out.

geiman 10-21-2011 10:02 AM

Thanks. Is this them?

Home Page*—*Harsh Terrain*—*Extreme 4x4 Parts & Custom Fabrication

If so, where do you get their joints from? I don't see any in the products section. Or is it something you have to call about?

Ibuildembig 10-21-2011 10:04 AM

Yeah I think so, I bought 20 of them about 2-3 years ago for various projects. Id email him and ask...he used to be in Idaho.

Piper54 10-22-2011 03:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Imped (Post 1675620)
:thumb:

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Agreed. I've got a couple Ruffstuff rod ends and would put the quality on the same level. But IMO, you can't beat Currie's joint for a DD/wheeler.

Sounds good. Anybody here have experience with Currie 4" Rock Jock on a 2012 Rubi yet? Several threads mention exhaust issues at full droop for the 2012 driver side, but if I'm just wheeling rough fire/creekside roads with probably nothing over 2' rocks, how likely am I to experience full droop anyway?

geiman 10-22-2011 07:21 PM

Might want to ask Gerald over at Savvy; they just got their 2012 a few months ago.

cmack 12-10-2011 05:23 PM

I think I am installing the currie


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