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TJe0454 10-20-2011 09:35 AM

just blew up my d35...not a surprise, right?
 
so i lost traction in the rear as i was leaving the parking lot at my school. heard a loud bang from the rear. checked it out, didnt see anything wrong, so i drove home. it would make the same noise if i turned right, even at slow speeds. pulled the diff cover this morning and felt a bunch of peices of metal in the bottom of the diff. i work at 1130 so i dont have time to take the carrier out right now. But it looks to be the spider gears on the left axle shaft that are broken. do i have any other choices other than to get a replacement axle or regear? how about a locker + shafts?
forgot to mention that my parents want to sell my jeep :(

Rubicon2 10-20-2011 09:52 AM

If it's just the spider gears and granted the pieces didn't destroy anything else, you can replace just the spider gears with new ones. I wouldn't lock it for the very reason of what just happened to your diff.

TJe0454 10-20-2011 09:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Rubicon2 (Post 1675384)
If it's just the spider gears and granted the pieces didn't destroy anything else, you can replace just the spider gears with new ones. I wouldn't lock it for the very reason of what just happened to your diff.

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Cons_Table 10-20-2011 09:59 AM

Yup, if your spider gears went out on you, but nothing else is wrong you can just replace those. If you want to lock it, you really should go with something like a Super35 kit...locking it on stock shafts will put you back where you are right now most likely.

Rubicon2 10-20-2011 10:15 AM


That looks like what you need. Make sure that kit fits your year Jeep.

rubi josh 10-20-2011 10:17 AM

If your gonna put a super 35 kit.. might as well just upgrade your axle to something beefier

Cons_Table 10-20-2011 10:22 AM

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Originally Posted by rubi josh (Post 1675448)
If your gonna put a super 35 kit.. might as well just upgrade your axle to something beefier

The super 35 holds up well for most wheelers, especially if they have no intentions of going bigger than 35s. A lot of people bash it, but I havent seen many people complain about it. The club I am with has at least 3 guys that are running this kit on 35s and none of them have broke it yet. It is a dependable setup.

burton160w 10-20-2011 10:32 AM

I'll complain about it, it's $1400 with Detroit Locker. That's absurd for how much a 8.8 install costs.

Cons_Table 10-20-2011 10:38 AM

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Originally Posted by burton160w (Post 1675469)
I'll complain about it, it's $1400 with Detroit Locker. That's absurd for how much a 8.8 install costs.

Price aside...I am talking about the "beefiness" of it. I think some people dismiss it just because its a D35. I am sure if you contact someone like Gerald, he can get a much better price on it...from what I hear at least. Depending on some people's situation, maybe a S35 kit is more of what they are looking for. We dont know what exactly they are looking for. If we are gonna provide the OP with options to fix it, they might as well have ALL worthy options.

This is coming from a guy WITH an 8.8.

Jerry Bransford 10-20-2011 10:52 AM

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Originally Posted by TJe0454 (Post 1675352)
so i lost traction in the rear as i was leaving the parking lot at my school. heard a loud bang from the rear. (

So exactly what were you doing when you "lost traction" while leaving school? ;) :whistling:

s3nt3nc3d 10-20-2011 11:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Jerry Bransford (Post 1675509)
So exactly what were you doing when you "lost traction" while leaving school? ;) :whistling:

About 4000 RPMs probably...:thumb:

Cons_Table 10-20-2011 11:48 AM

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Originally Posted by s3nt3nc3d (Post 1675634)
About 4000 RPMs probably...:thumb:

:rofl::rofl:

TJWenatchee 10-20-2011 01:09 PM

OOPS :nonono:

TJe0454 10-20-2011 02:40 PM

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it was raining so i didnt launch it...just a little wheel spin then a louuuud bang noise.
pix included. do you think that one chip off of the ring gear is ok?

GoldenSahara00 10-20-2011 02:45 PM

That sucks dude. just replace your spiders and take it easier in the rain. I am kinda hoping I tank mine so I have an excuse for a 8.8.

TJe0454 10-20-2011 02:51 PM

anyone advise on this?? seems cheap.
Dana 35/35 IFS Case (H 3.31-) With Spiders [used dana 35 (H)] - $45.00 : T and J Performance Center | 714-633-0991 | 1002 W. Collins Ave, Orange, CA, 92867, T&J Performance Center | Bring It....

00tj2 10-20-2011 02:52 PM

I don't know... That ring gear has a pretty good chunk missing....how many miles do you have on it? I have 128k on mine and have plowed, 4wheeled, and towed a 3500+ pound trailer for 3 years and still haven't blown mine up yet... I guess I'm on borrowed time...maybe I should start looking for a d44

wolfen 10-20-2011 03:38 PM

Personally with a chunk missing out of the ring gear I'd replace that and any other gears that are damaged. I wouldn't waste the money on a locker in a D35, and I wouldn't bother changing rear ends unless you plan to take it mountain climbing.
I got a 30 in the front and a 35 in the back on mine both open, drives great on tarmac and wherever I want to go off the tarmac

GoldenSahara00 10-20-2011 03:48 PM

honestly its probably cheaper to try and find a 35 with matching gears and buy it than get new r/p and install...

TJe0454 10-20-2011 03:49 PM

gonna head up to a junkyard tomorrow to find a new carrier. if i grab the shims with the carrier, will i have to adjust anything to get it in?

Cons_Table 10-20-2011 03:49 PM

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Originally Posted by GoldenSahara00 (Post 1676257)
honestly its probably cheaper to try and find a 35 with matching gears and buy it than get new r/p and install...

I was actually just about to say the same thing...

wolfen 10-20-2011 04:09 PM

You might have to adjust the lateral clearance, I'd just get the carried remove the ring gear and spider gears and put them on mine, last time i tried adjusting play on a rear end I wound up with a different rear axle

Cons_Table 10-20-2011 04:13 PM

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Originally Posted by wolfen (Post 1676316)
You might have to adjust the lateral clearance, I'd just get the carried remove the ring gear and spider gears and put them on mine, last time i tried adjusting play on a rear end I wound up with a different rear axle

This is why most people recommend taking the jeep/axle in for gear work, regearing, locker installation, etc. If I were the OP I would just look into finding a complete D35 and sliding it back under the jeep instead of tearing into the diff. This will lower the chance of screwing something up with reinstalling. Getting a carrier and ring gear out of another axle and putting it in their axle probably wouldnt be the best since the ring gear may not mesh right with the old pinion either.

Rubicon2 10-20-2011 04:32 PM

Ring and pinion gears are matched sets. You can't just pull a ring gear and carrier out of one axle and install it into another unless you transfer the pinion gear as well. That being said after looking at your pictures you're going to need a new ring and pinion gear in addition to new spider gears and I would have it all done by a reputable off-road shop where they do alot of them.

Cons_Table 10-20-2011 04:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Rubicon2 (Post 1676389)
Ring and pinion gears are matched sets. You can't just pull a ring gear and carrier out of one axle and install it into another unless you transfer the pinion gear as well. That being said after looking at your pictures you're going to need a new ring and pinion gear in addition to new spider gears and I would have it all done by a reputable off-road shop where they do alot of them.

^This. Unless you can find yourself a decently priced, used D35. Getting gears and what not done will probably run you 500-600 bucks...so I would search for a used D35 under that.

GoldenSahara00 10-20-2011 05:17 PM

Yep rubi took it out of my mouth. They are matched sets as in, they have been meshed for a hundred thousand miles. You could take a new one and have a better chance of getting it right (as in like 1k miles) but, its not a good idea.

I still stick with getting a new axle as me and cons have suggested. goodluck!

MikeMTJ 10-20-2011 05:19 PM

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Originally Posted by s3nt3nc3d (Post 1675634)
About 4000 RPMs probably...:thumb:

You're not having fun unless you're ridin' on the rev limiter. :dance::dance::rofl:

IndyJeepMan 10-20-2011 05:28 PM

If you were closer and this was about 4 months in the future id sell you my d35 with 4:10's lol

GreenJack 10-20-2011 05:40 PM

What gears are you running?

I have a D35 with 3.07 gears you can have cheap... (If NJ isn't too much of a hike for you)

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GoldenSahara00 10-20-2011 07:02 PM

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Originally Posted by GreenJack (Post 1676597)
What gears are you running?

I have a D35 with 3.07 gears you can have cheap... (If NJ isn't too much of a hike for you)

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Im tempted to take yours so I have one when I finally tank mine! :rofl:


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