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daddyjeep 11-13-2011 08:42 PM

DaddyJeep Rebuild
 
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Well... DaddyJeep is starting to show his age and is in need of a bit of a rebuild. I found out that the rear section of the frame was rotted out so I had to replace the last 18" of the frame rails on both sides.

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Since I had gone this far, I decided it was time to replace my completely worn out body mounts. Then again, since I had to do that I might as well just tear it down to the bare frame. That is where I am now...starting the tear down. This is going to be a very slow build since I work two jobs and am a Cubmaster for my son's Cub Scout pack. My free time is limited to an hour or two week, if I am lucky. My deadline is to have it ready for the Bantam Jeep Festival next August.

Just to make things a little more interesting...

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Thats right...5.2L V8 and 46RH tranny. I am having my local VoTech rebuild the 5.2 for me and need to find someone to go through the tranny for me. I am not much of a wiring guy so this might be a bit of a challenge next spring when it is time to get things back together and running.

If time and money allow there are several other things that I would like to get done during this build. I need to get my tube fenders built, similar to the Metalcloak ones. I need to build a real cage, which I plan on tying onto the tube fenders that will then tie into a front stinger. I want this thing completely wrapped in 1.5" DOM as one solid unit. Of course I have to finish my bumpers and tire carrier. Hopefully by the time all of this is done I should be getting pretty good with my welder.

Here is a pic of my current progress. I have the front clip off and just have a couple of really rusty body mount bolts to cut off and the tub will come off.

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I really need to get started on getting the engine out of the Grand Cherokee and get it over to the VoTech before the weather gets bad. My garage barely holds the Wrangler so I will be working on the grand outside. If anyone needs anything off of the grand let me know. All I need is the drive train. Notice those sweet 5 spoke Jeep wheels. I am sure one of you guys could give them a good home. Also, My current Wrangler drive train needs a new home. 4.2L with Howell fuel injection, only 96000 miles.

89JEEPYJ 11-15-2011 06:26 PM

u might be better off using a simple 350 or 383 with a carb so there is only one plug to wurry about for the ignition

daddyjeep 12-18-2011 02:14 PM

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Finally got a few minutes to start making some progress on the project. A buddy and Started tearing down the Grand Cherokee to get the 5.2 out. I was hoping that I would be able to get the engine out before winter, but as you can see in the pic...I was too late. A couple more hours and the engine will be off for rebuild.

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daddyjeep 01-07-2012 08:39 AM

Finally have a day to work on the Jeeps again today. Anyone in NW PA that is bored is welcome to stop over. I hope to get the engine out today. I will post an update this evening.

daddyjeep 01-07-2012 11:17 PM

Well.... I didnt get as much done today as I wanted. I did at least get the t-case out and most of the wiring and linkages off of the motor and tranny. I will get a few hours tomorrow before work so hopefully I can get the tranny out. That 46RH is a big tranny. Not to mention I am working off of a sheet of plywood in the yard. I really need a bigger garage.

daddyjeep 02-07-2012 09:29 PM

Finally got the 5.2 out...and it only took me four months. Goes off to the VoTech school on Thursday. Now I can get back on the wrangler and start making some progress on the frame.

daddyjeep 09-04-2012 09:26 PM

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WOW...progress is slow. I took the wife and kids to the Bantam Festival last month and my wife loved it...she can't wait till I get me Jeep done. That is good news!!! Now she doesn't mind if I spend a couple of hours in the garage and maybe even spend a couple of dollars now and then. With that being said, I am finally making some progress on the Jeep.

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Now I just have to figure out how to get the frame down from the rafters before my garage caves in. Once I get my tub out of the way I can bring the frame back in. I have the frame mostly cleaned up and the rust repaired. Now the real fun begins. I am getting a new set of axles that have 4 links attached front and rear. 9" rear and some bastardized D30/Ford TTb front axle. I am not too sure about the front axle, but I am goung to run it until I can find a HP D44. Anybody have any thoughts on coil springs for this set up? I would like to keep it low, maybe 3-4" of lift. Coilovers obviously would be the way to go, but they are a bit out of my budget right now.

daddyjeep 01-27-2013 08:11 PM

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PROGRESS!!! got my Ford 9" / HP D44 today. The 9" has a locker and the 4 link bars ready to weld to the Wrangler and even has a brand new disk brake conversion. The link bars are 2" lowers and 1.5" uppers with johnny joints at the frame end .

The front has the Ford raduis Arms with Johnny Joints again at the Frame end. The front has high steer arms too.

I screwed up my back moving them around in the garage so I didn't get anything else done to the Jeep, but at least I finally have the axles to get things moving forward.

daddyjeep 01-27-2013 08:42 PM

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A little photoshop work of the new LCG plan. I am trying to get as close to stock height as I can and still fit 35's. Planning on running 14" air shocks. Not sure yet how much shock I will be able to fit.

Irongrave 01-28-2013 07:34 AM

looks like a fun rig. if you need a hand your only about 2 hours from me I could make the trip out one weekend

daddyjeep 01-28-2013 10:31 AM

Irongrave,
I will probably take you up on that at some point since we are both doing similar builds. We can compare notes and I can definately use the help. I have to get it done in time for the Bantam Jeep Festival in June.

Tarby 01-29-2013 01:20 PM

I see your getting things done Mr. Morgan...Look me up if you need some grunt work done...

Steve

daddyjeep 02-02-2013 01:22 PM

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I am getting my frame cleaned up and ready to start laying out the 4 link today. I found an easy way to get the leaf spring mounts off. I only wish I knew this before i cut the first one off, now I have a lot of grinding to do on that one.

Cut to the hole in the bottom and then from the hole to both corners. You can then break off the three pieces with a hammer and have very little grinding to do to clean up the rails.

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After my lunch break here it is time to tackle shock mounts and motor mounts.

daddyjeep 02-02-2013 06:15 PM

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Nice clean frame rail, like there was never a leaf spring mount there....or shock mount....or motor mount.

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daddyjeep 02-06-2013 03:20 PM

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I flopped the frame on top of the axles last night so it started looking something like a vehicle again. Now I have to start figuring out how I am going to get the axles attached to the frame without a body or a drive train. Wow, I really need a bigger garage. I can't even get into my beer fridge.
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The rear lower links end up right around the center body mount and the rear axle needs to be another inch or two farther forward unless I modify my rear crossmember. Then I will have even more gas tank issues. I really want my tank to stay under the Jeep. Does anyone know about how long a long arm type lower link should be for a YJ? I want my wheel base to be as long as possible, but don't want to have to move the tank or steering box.
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daddyjeep 02-22-2013 10:29 PM

113 days until BJHF
 
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Got my first new parts added to the Jeep today. It is great to finally be building instead of tearing down. Got a box full of goodies yesterday from Ballistic Fabrication...most of my link and shock brackets. I say most because I forgot to order the rear axle link brackets.:facepalm: They should be here Monday or Tuesday.
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These Brackets from Ballistic are great. They are mounted at a bit of an angle on the frame due to the length of the radius arms putting them on the angled part of the frame and the Ford raduis arms angle in a bit too.
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I will be boxing the brackets to the frame because they hang out so much.
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This shot is at ride height. I was a little concerned that the raduis arms would hit the frame at full compression.
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This is with the jack stands in the front lowered to full stuff. I still have a little room to go.
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Also started looking at my steering. I installed a Chevy Astro steering box. I really don't like how low and far out the pitman arm is. I am going to try the pitman arm off of the astro box on my stock box and see how that works out.

Irongrave 02-23-2013 11:08 AM

nice progress

rykemc 02-23-2013 11:24 AM

Looking good sir. Will be keeping up with your progress.

sp33dfr33k 02-23-2013 01:59 PM

Here we go... This is exactly what I was hoping to find...! It looks great..! I have a lot of Q's for you, but I'll save them for P.M.s. I have to try to find the link to Irongrave's build next (Maybe he's doin' it super secret stealth style..?)

sp33dfr33k 02-23-2013 04:17 PM

Hey daddyjeep, If ya don't mind I'm gonna save some of these pics... I'm shoppin' for brackets and things now...

honnbub 02-24-2013 09:34 AM

Nice looking rebuild and quite a project in such a confined space. It is something that many of is have to deal with. My project is not a complete tear down like that, just some minor repairs. Hopefully by June you will be good to go!

daddyjeep 02-24-2013 07:11 PM

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Got one of my shock hoops tacked into place so I could measure for shocks. I am dissapointed that I can only fit a 14" shock, but that will still be about 8 more inches of travel than I had with the old leaves. Since I am keeping this thing low my shock hoops are going to stick up through the hood a bit. I am OK with that, I think it will look bad ass with the shock hoops exposed.

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WooHoo...almost starting to look like a Jeep

daddyjeep 02-24-2013 07:16 PM

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Hey daddyjeep, If ya don't mind I'm gonna save some of these pics... I'm shoppin' for brackets and things now...
You can keep all the pics you like. Have you looked at Ballistic for brackets? I am really happy with the stuff I got from them.

sp33dfr33k 02-26-2013 01:55 PM

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Originally Posted by daddyjeep (Post 3415180)
You can keep all the pics you like. Have you looked at Ballistic for brackets? I am really happy with the stuff I got from them.

Thanx, I'm jumpin over there now...

daddyjeep 02-26-2013 09:47 PM

109 Days until BJHF
 
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Got both front shock hoops burned in and the cross bar started tonight. Gotta pick up a piece of tubing to connect both shock hoops to make sure they stay where they are.

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I went into the garage and it was raining, it started getting a little smoky so I opened the door and there was an inch of snow. Spring can show up any time.

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sp33dfr33k 02-26-2013 09:51 PM

:whistling:
save image as, save image as... That is gonna be awesome..!
honestly, I'm diggin' your build..!:thumb:
Oh, I did head over and check out Ballistic, they've got some pretty decent prices too.. THANX

Lil Red JK 02-26-2013 09:59 PM

I hope you are able to have it ready for bantam, I would love to see it in person when you are finished!

daddyjeep 02-27-2013 09:46 PM

108 Days until BJHF
 
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Thanks for the encouragement guys..every bit helps.

I started on the rear tonight. I am going to end up with right around a 102" wheel base. Got more of my Ballistic Fab mounts tacked in place on the rear axle as well as my upper and lower link mounts to the frame. I am going to double check everything in the 4 link calculator one more time before I go much further.

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I am going to cut down my lower links a bit. They are currently 47" and I am cutting them down to 32.5"

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sp33dfr33k 02-28-2013 09:34 AM

I hate to ask this because I fear the wrath of the embarrassment, or consuming your time, but as far as the measurements go...
Could I ask if you could post a sketch, or diagram of sorts, from this point to that point kind of thing..?
I have no idea of where I would even begin to start a plan, or, if you want, I could photoshop a diagram if you could explain where I would start..?
It would help me visualize it on my frame... thanks sir, in advance..!!

rykemc 02-28-2013 11:08 AM

Build is looking fantastic! Can't wait to see it finished.


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