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the-pred 11-26-2011 09:14 AM

Winter Tires
 
Been reading all moring, more confused then ever. My 2011 Wrangler Unlimited has 255/70/18 on it now. I want to go to a wider winter tire. I am buying new steele wheels as well. Is my best bet for price to go down to a 16" steel wheel? I like the look of the bigger tires with small black rim. My main question is what size rim do I need, what bolt pattern, and what size tires will fit without rubbing. Any options would be appreciated. Thanks

jkjeeper06 11-26-2011 09:19 AM

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Originally Posted by the-pred
Been reading all moring, more confused then ever. My 2011 Wrangler Unlimited has 255/70/18 on it now. I want to go to a wider winter tire. I am buying new steele wheels as well. Is my best bet for price to go down to a 16" steel wheel? I like the look of the bigger tires with small black rim. My main question is what size rim do I need, what bolt pattern, and what size tires will fit without rubbing. Any options would be appreciated. Thanks

If you want to go even cheaper and lighter order 15" MB72's from discount tire here. Put 33" tires on it if you want and you will have a good winter tire. A tire for a 15" rim is cheaper than the same one for a 16 but is still WAY cheaper than for your 18's. They are black too. If you look up Esp's profile you can see the rim mounted on his jeep and he has 33's too. If you want a bigger tire, you will probably want 4.5" backspacing and either a 16x8 or 15x8 to prevent any rubbing. The 15" mb72's are $95 a piece I think which is pretty fair

Barmanvarn 11-26-2011 09:24 AM

x2

I think the '11 bolt pattern is the same as the '12 which is 5x5 127mm.

the-pred 11-26-2011 09:40 AM

Jkjeeper06, I read alot of posts mentioning 33" tires. I am use to the tire sizing being displayed like 255/75/18. How to you guys coming up with the size 33"?

Barmanvarn 11-26-2011 09:42 AM

Alot of tires will have sizes listed like 33x12.5x5. It's just another way that some tire's sizes are listed. Alternately, you can always plug your numbers into a calculater online and it'll give you heigth and width.

jkjeeper06 11-26-2011 09:48 AM

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Originally Posted by the-pred
Jkjeeper06, I read alot of posts mentioning 33" tires. I am use to the tire sizing being displayed like 255/75/18. How to you guys coming up with the size 33"?

If you get a 15" rim, the tires are usually in English unit sizing so it'll say 33"(tall)x11.5"(wide)x15"(rim) other than that it is usually metric sizing. If you want a 16 inch rim and you want to go bigger you can get a 265/75/r16 and that would be a 32" tire or you could look into a 285/75/r16 and that will be a 33" tire. Usually on the tire selling sites they will give you the height of the tire in inches

the-pred 11-26-2011 09:59 AM

so in metric format what size 15" tire am i looking for?

Barmanvarn 11-26-2011 10:01 AM

What height and width are you wanting? If you know that, you can plug that into an online calculator and it'll convert that to metric for you.

jkjeeper06 11-26-2011 10:10 AM

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Originally Posted by the-pred
so in metric format what size 15" tire am i looking for?

I could be wrong, but I don't think 15" tires are measured In metrics but if you wanted a 33" tire and it was measured with metric units it would most likely be 285/80or85/r15 that would be about an inch wider than stock and an inch taller

the-pred 11-26-2011 10:11 AM

looking for my options for a 15" rim on a 2011 unlimited. i like the look of 33" or 32"

Barmanvarn 11-26-2011 10:12 AM

It's a little confusing at first but it doesn't take long to get it all figured out.

the-pred 11-26-2011 10:15 AM

Also would liek to have some tire options. 285/85/15 don't seem to ahve many options.

CG3 11-26-2011 10:16 AM

You say winter tires. And you say you want wider. Are you in snow? Lots of it? Narrower tires work better in snow...

Barmanvarn 11-26-2011 10:17 AM

I don't think you've mentioned yet what heigth and width you're shooting for. If we know that then we can probably give you some better info.

the-pred 11-26-2011 10:23 AM

Looking to be a little wider but allot taller

jkjeeper06 11-26-2011 10:25 AM

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Originally Posted by the-pred
Also would liek to have some tire options. 285/85/15 don't seem to ahve many options.

Yeah, usually snow tires don't come in huge sizes. You would have more luck with a 265/80or85/r15 or even a 245/80or85/r15. On paved roads skinnier tires are better because they can dig down to the pavement. For off road in the snow, there is no base like pavement so fat tires will help you stay on top. Needless to say I'd go skinnier and be safer on road and need to be more careful off road. With the 15" rims tho be careful. Not all of them fit on the JK. We know the mb72 and mb chaos 5 fit alright but of you PM discount tire direct here, they can tell you

jkjeeper06 11-26-2011 10:29 AM

I'm trying to find a bigger than stock winter tire for you and they are hard to come by. The Firestone winter force comes in a 285/75/r16 but that is one of the biggest snow tires I've found

the-pred 11-26-2011 10:37 AM

Anyone have a picture of a taller thin tire on a 15" black rim?

Omar Brannstrom 11-26-2011 12:16 PM

Hi

I have ordered a 2012 wrangler and here in Europe we have bigger brake calliper so the smallast rim size is 17"

I wanted a aggresive pathern that was approved as a Wintertire in sweden, and I found the Cooper Max S/T and I went with studs

CooperTiresConsumer - Discoverer S/T MAXX

They come in 33.1" LT285/75R16

the-pred 11-26-2011 12:48 PM

285/75/16. Winder what size it would be in 15"?

jkjeeper06 11-26-2011 01:30 PM

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Originally Posted by the-pred
285/75/16. Winder what size it would be in 15"?

That is either a 33x11.5x15 or 285/80or85/15. I say 80 or 85 just because I am unsure of exactly which one it is

Omar Brannstrom 11-26-2011 02:46 PM

Hi

285/80R15 is about the same size as 285/75/16

You can play with different sizes here

Tire Size Calculator - tire & wheel plus sizing it can also show scaled tire images (look to the right.

and here

Car / SUV / Van / Light Truck Tire Calculations

KarlG 11-26-2011 07:57 PM

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Originally Posted by CG3 (Post 1773271)
You say winter tires. And you say you want wider. Are you in snow? Lots of it? Narrower tires work better in snow...

Exactly what Carlyn said. If you are looking for a winter tire you want to go to a size smaller and with good siping and rubber formulated to be sticky at lower temps. The new stud less ice and snow (like the Blizzaks) are one example.

kjeeper10 11-26-2011 08:23 PM

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Originally Posted by KarlG

Exactly what Carlyn said. If you are looking for a winter tire you want to go to a size smaller and with good siping and rubber formulated to be sticky at lower temps. The new stud less ice and snow (like the Blizzaks) are one example.

Yep.

Duras have sipes also.

SylvanSahara 11-26-2011 10:27 PM

ditto on the more narrow tire being better for grip in the ice and snow. If you can get a Nokian Hakkapeliitta best snow tires money can buy...and price that way, but if you are good about putting them on/off at proper temps they will easily last 5-6 yrs

KarlG 11-27-2011 09:19 AM

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Originally Posted by kjeeper10 (Post 1774440)
Yep.

Duras have sipes also.

That's what I will be running this winter because I had a set, and they did well enough on a WK last winter. They also don't have to be changed out. They are not quite as good as Blizzaks, on ice, in winter, but totally acceptable.

SylvanSahara 11-27-2011 09:59 AM

you can climb a snow or ice covered tree w/ these

Nokian Hakkapeliitta LT

not sure what the sizes available are or if i put the right model but far and away snows i have ever owned

the-pred 11-27-2011 05:06 PM

So everyone has convinced me that I should go with a thinner tire for winter. I would like my tire size if I wanted to go with a thin 15 inch tire. Also what am I asking for when I ask for a steel wheel. What is the bolt pattern and all the other specs I need. Thanks for the help.

KSCRUDE 11-27-2011 05:19 PM

I am running the same tire and wheel on my 11 sahara and they did great last winter in the snow and ice. I will run them again this winter with 13K on them. Have you tried them out yet. Save your money or thow on some duratracs or silent armor goodyears, both excellent winter tires!

the-pred 11-27-2011 05:31 PM

You running 15"?


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