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acopsy88 10-18-2007 11:03 PM

suspension and body lift question.
 
OK heres my question.I got a 4 inch rough country lift with 33s..I was wondering how much of a bodylift to put on to tuck 35s. Their are many reasons why i want to..Number 1 i want to go bigger. 2.)pro comp is buy 3 get 4rth free...what a good deal. 3.)I used to have the highest tj in town till a guybought a jeep with 4 inch lift and 35s. So what should i go with 1,2,or3 i know i dont have to get longer shocks but would i need to get anything else for the body lift? or should say fuck it buy new 33s get the smittybilt 8000lb winch for 299.99 and forget the 35sThanks adam

4point 10-18-2007 11:09 PM

You might want to clean up all the language in your post and in your sig. That would be a good start.

Triple88a 10-18-2007 11:21 PM

many say not to go w/ more than 1" of bl because "the bolts may rip off", I my self have a 2" Bl and i feel perfectly safe, I wouldn't go w/ 3" bl because then that will space the bumpers way to much from the body so it just looks weird and in my opinion ugly.

what kind of rc kit do you have? 4" susp w/ 2" bl should be good to clear 35s

with 35s you will probably need new gears, also it will be hard on your axles if you have d 35 in the rear.

acopsy88 10-18-2007 11:26 PM

sorry bout language... I got the first series kit.... i have talked to people saying nothin good comes from body lifts.But their are so many knowledgable people here i wanted their opinion.

mrbigjeep 10-19-2007 02:48 PM

go with a 1" BL. 2" and 3" are ugly. just adjust your bumpstops.

but i do think its a dumb idea to go bigger because jimbo bob down the street has a bigger jeep...btw, what rear axle do you have?

Triple88a 10-19-2007 05:10 PM

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Originally Posted by mrbigjeep (Post 150727)
btw, what rear axle do you have?

2x... to check which rear axle you have look at the rear differential. Does it have a rubber/plastic oil cap or is it metal one? While you're down there also read the little army looking tag thats bolted on to one of the bolts. See what it says... 3.73 or 3.xx...

1BLKJP 10-19-2007 06:00 PM

All you are needing to do is give yourself a little more room in the wheel wells to tuck some 35's. A 1" BL is perfect for this and will not do any harm to your rig at all.

nicolas-eric 10-19-2007 06:38 PM

1" BL and extended bumpstops or 2" BL and only a bit extended bumpstops...

debruins 10-19-2007 07:34 PM

btw you wont need longer shocks
and i vote for the 1.25 JKS BL

acopsy88 10-20-2007 12:48 AM

yea it is a metal plug forgot to check the number sorry...have you guys heardanything aboutthe smitty bilt winch... and if i were reccomend any good bumpers..i got the money and a bonus comin and its goin towardmy jeep.

GrnTJ 10-20-2007 04:05 AM

Smitty winch=good quality. They are on sale for $315 right now. Heres the link:
http://www.4x4groupbuy.com/store/smi...ng-p-5996.html
enjoy that.

nicolas-eric 10-20-2007 04:14 AM

they come from china like all other cheap winches.
8,000 lbs is´t enough in my opinion.
on the upper rope layer it can only winch 4800 lbs, a full loaded TJ that´s stuck in deep mud needs more power.
i´ve a 12,000 lbs china winch. that´s stronger than this mall smittybilt thing.
a friends 9,5k lbs winch didn´t get me out of the mud a few times, my winch did it.

debruins 10-20-2007 06:10 AM

hmmmmm, i dont think that you would need that much power, the jeep only weighs 3000-4000 lbs do you really need 3X that, i thinkn an 8k lb winch will be fine as long as your not in mud up to the door handles!

nicolas-eric 10-20-2007 06:23 AM

my jeep actually weights 4800 lbs with full tank and 2 persons and my offfroad utilitys.
with the parts i ordered it weights about 5000 lbs.
it´s stock empty weight was 3700 lbs.

the winch has it´s full power only on the lowest cable layer. on the upper layer it has 1/4 to 1/2 less power.
my 12.000 lbs winch has only 7700 lbs on the upper layer.

take a look at this little freeware program and you´ll see that a 12.000 lbs winch istn´t too big for a TJ: http://www.dirfile.com/off_the_road_...calculator.htm

http://jeep.cfasp.de/upload/631895.jpg

but if you only drive on rocks or dirt roads 8.000 lbs will be ok.

mrbigjeep 10-20-2007 10:40 AM

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Originally Posted by acopsy88 (Post 150897)
yea it is a metal plug forgot to check the number sorry...have you guys heardanything aboutthe smitty bilt winch... and if i were reccomend any good bumpers..i got the money and a bonus comin and its goin towardmy jeep.

good to hear you have dana 44 :D...which means you have 3.73's

GrnTJ 10-20-2007 03:04 PM

I've got a Warn 8000lb. winch and its always been more than enough to yank my rig from ANY stuck situation. Trust me, I have been in some DEEP stuff. I think the power of that Smitty Bilt winch will be plenty for him.

Triple88a 10-21-2007 01:56 AM

ok good so you have metal plug.. you have D44 as BigJeep said. I'd go with 35s and then replace the gears in the axles with 4.88 and be happy and done with the running gear (for a little bit until another bug bites you).

benjamin24 10-21-2007 02:03 AM

you guys are talking about china winches, they cost half as much as a warn or ramsey because they are probably half the winch:D you pay for what you get

Triple88a 10-26-2007 06:09 PM

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Originally Posted by benjamin24 (Post 151121)
you guys are talking about china winches, they cost half as much as a warn or ramsey because they are probably half the winch:D you pay for what you get

Nico has a china winch and he is satisfied. Just because its more expensive doesn't mean its better.

nicolas-eric 10-26-2007 06:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Triple88a (Post 152562)
Nico has a china winch and he is satisfied. Just because its more expensive doesn't mean its better.

my china winch is like the smittybilt winch (but has 12.000 lbs) and works fine. a warn is only a bit faster. but if you don´t have the mony for a warn a china winch is better than no winch. if i get stuck it doesn´t matter to me if i need 4 or 5 minutes to winch me out of the mud.

btw yeah my 35 are installed... :punk: :D

nicolas-eric 10-26-2007 06:27 PM

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Originally Posted by benjamin24 (Post 151121)
you guys are talking about china winches, they cost half as much as a warn or ramsey because they are probably half the winch:D you pay for what you get

there are two companies on the world that build the series wound electric engines that are used in all winches. and they both are i a country that starts with the letter C :rofl:

Triple88a 10-26-2007 08:13 PM

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Originally Posted by nicolas-eric (Post 152565)
btw yeah my 35 are installed... :punk: :D

6" lift on 30s :punk:

http://i205.photobucket.com/albums/b...DSCF0001-2.jpg

http://i205.photobucket.com/albums/b...DSCF0003-4.jpg

Tee 10-26-2007 10:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Triple88a (Post 152586)


I must be wierd, I kinda like that look:punk: Maybe a some 33x9.50x15 muds and that is the setup:D

MoA 10-27-2007 01:36 AM

what size tires do you plan on running trip?

i just got my 33s on today.. the bl is going on this weekend i think..

im still waiting on my check to clear.. so ill be able to get the rest of my lift soon =D

Triple88a 10-27-2007 03:18 AM

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Originally Posted by MoA (Post 152620)
what size tires do you plan on running trip?

33 or 35/12.5R15 :punk:

What bl did you get? 2"? perhaps i can give you few tips..


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