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rolltide11390 12-07-2011 04:24 PM

Budget Lift Kit
 
I'm in the market for a budget lift kit. I'm thinking between 2-3 inches. I've been looking on Ebay and other sites. I've found various different brands such as Skyjacker, Rough Country, Pro Comp, and Zone. I need some advise on the differences between each and which one would be best. I've heard the spacers are typically the same, and the shocks are where differences are present. Also, I have seen that most stocks are polyurethane, but this specific one I found is made of Delrin. It also is a 3 inch lift and cheaper than others. Here is a link to the page on Ebay:
eBay - New & used electronics, cars, apparel, collectibles, sporting goods & more at low prices
Does anybody have any suggestions whatsoever? Really would like any help.
Thanks!

computeruser 12-07-2011 05:17 PM

2" or 3" BDS/Zone would be a great starting point. I'd skip the Skyjacker, ProComp, and RoughCountry stuff.

3" spacers are idiotic, particularly in the rear, where the stock coils are already working at a silly angle anyway when they are able to seat all the way up on the frame. Add in a spacer more than an inch or so thick, and they're working at even dumber angles than they were to begin with.

Don't buy crap shocks.

And honestly, keep it at 2" unless you're going to be prepared to do other things - change the transfer case output to a fixed output with double-cardan 2-piece rear driveshaft, possibly adjustable control arms, longer brake lines, etc. Yes, I know you can cobble together a solution that kinda-sorta works at 3" or 4", but it is still ghetto and cobbled together.

Dextreme 12-07-2011 05:19 PM

This is the kit I have on mine.
Jeep Wrangler TJ 2" Budget Boost - Suspension Lift Kits - Suspension - 4WS.COM

Personally, I would run the stock stocks over those stiff Procomps that are in that ebay link. ;)

rolltide11390 12-07-2011 11:34 PM

Thanks a lot! I'll diffidently stay away form the 3 inch spacer lift.
I'm looking at $300 budget. If spending closer to $400 would get me a lot better product, I'd consider putting out more. Any other brand suggestions that would fall into this category? If spending around $250 for one will get me the same quality as a $300 product, I'd prefer to save the money.

rolltide11390 12-13-2011 09:54 PM

Another question if someone could help.
Are the spacers pretty much the same no matter what brand I buy? If so, I was considering buying spacers separately and then looking for shocks separately, too. Thought this may help spend less cash and maybe get better shocks.
Just need to know if the spacers are going to be the same no matter what

Arch Stanton 12-13-2011 10:25 PM

I bought a Daystar BB (spacers and bump stops) and OME shocks for just under $400. I bought the BB on ebay for $75.00, including shipping. The Daystar BB is made in the U.S.A. I'm not sure about the others. I'm still debating on whether to install the BB or buy a set of 2" springs. I think that you have the right idea about getting better shocks. Good luck with your choice!


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Originally Posted by rolltide11390 (Post 1826466)
Another question if someone could help.
Are the spacers pretty much the same no matter what brand I buy? If so, I was considering buying spacers separately and then looking for shocks separately, too. Thought this may help spend less cash and maybe get better shocks.
Just need to know if the spacers are going to be the same no matter what


DeFazio 12-13-2011 10:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rolltide11390
Thanks a lot! I'll diffidently stay away form the 3 inch spacer lift.
I'm looking at $300 budget. If spending closer to $400 would get me a lot better product, I'd consider putting out more. Any other brand suggestions that would fall into this category? If spending around $250 for one will get me the same quality as a $300 product, I'd prefer to save the money.

I bought the rubicon express 2" bb lift from quadratec. Pretty sure it was less than 250. Come with shocks spacers and bumpstops. Rides like a dream

Arch Stanton 12-13-2011 10:41 PM

Did you add anything else to your lift? Have you disconnected the sway bar while offroading? If so, how did it do with the BB? Thanks!


Quote:

Originally Posted by DeFazio (Post 1826557)
I bought the rubicon express 2" bb lift from quadratec. Pretty sure it was less than 250. Come with shocks spacers and bumpstops. Rides like a dream


DeFazio 12-13-2011 10:49 PM

I'm about to add a body lift to fit 33s but haven't done anything else. No tc drop needed but I have heard some people need them. I haven't disconnected to sway bars just bc I haven't had the time to do disconnects

DeFazio 12-13-2011 10:51 PM

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Its on 30"s. Plenty of room to flex. No complaints

Arch Stanton 12-14-2011 05:29 AM

Looking good! Does it ride better than stock? Thanks!

Quote:

Originally Posted by DeFazio (Post 1826637)
Its on 30"s. Plenty of room to flex. No complaints


DeFazio 12-14-2011 05:56 AM

I think so. You can feel that its slightly taller which is nice

TnDz TJ 12-14-2011 06:13 AM

I run a Teraflex 2" BB right now.... it came with the 2" spacers and the bumpstop extensions for $130 from Summit Racing...

http://www.wranglerforum.com/attachm...9/3/tf2003.jpg

I never changed the shocks from stock and even did the Rubicon Trail with my setup on 31's.

http://i853.photobucket.com/albums/a...1/DSC02693.jpg

Are they recommended? yes...... Needed..... sure...if you plan on maxing out your droop of the suspension every day.

Now.... I did get vibes after my 2" BB.... you may or may not develop vibes... every Jeep is different. I solved mine first by adding a t-case drop, then I removed the t-case drop and installed a 1" MML ( Motor Mount Lift) and had to raise the fan shroud 1/2" for clearance... that was it.

The BB install only take about 2hours

http://www.wranglerforum.com/attachm.../3/rims003.jpg

...here is my install

http://www.wranglerforum.com/f5/tera...urs-99763.html

Arch Stanton 12-14-2011 07:20 AM

Are you going install quick disconnects and new shocks? Where did you get the nutserts for he Rubicon rocker guards? How is the ride with the BB? I bought a pair off Craigslist that I plan on installing over the holidays. How is the ride with the BB? Thanks for your post and link to the install! Have a good one!


Quote:

Originally Posted by TnDz TJ (Post 1826989)
I run a Teraflex 2" BB right now.... it came with the 2" spacers and the bumpstop extensions for $130 from Summit Racing...

http://www.wranglerforum.com/attachm...9/3/tf2003.jpg

I never changed the shocks from stock and even did the Rubicon Trail with my setup on 31's.

http://i853.photobucket.com/albums/a...1/DSC02693.jpg

Are they recommended? yes...... Needed..... sure...if you plan on maxing out your droop of the suspension every day.

Now.... I did get vibes after my 2" BB.... you may or may not develop vibes... every Jeep is different. I solved mine first by adding a t-case drop, then I removed the t-case drop and installed a 1" MML ( Motor Mount Lift) and had to raise the fan shroud 1/2" for clearance... that was it.

The BB install only take about 2hours

http://www.wranglerforum.com/attachm.../3/rims003.jpg

...here is my install

http://www.wranglerforum.com/f5/tera...urs-99763.html


Maro35089 12-14-2011 07:22 AM

I am running a 2.5 lift from rough country. It was $299 with shocks and springs. It comes with a skid plate drop but if you get a 1 inch motor mount lift you don't have to worry about it. I love the lift tested it out a few months ago and it had a good ride off road.

Arch Stanton 12-14-2011 07:24 AM

That's good to know. What brand and how much is the MM lift? How easy was it to install? Thank you!

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Originally Posted by Maro35089 (Post 1827072)
I am running a 2.5 lift from rough country. It was $299 with shocks and springs. It comes with a skid plate drop but if you get a 1 inch motor mount lift you don't have to worry about it. I love the lift tested it out a few months ago and it had a good ride off road.


SinfulDragon 12-14-2011 07:32 AM

Also have the Rough Country 2.5" lift and 2.2 shocks that came with it. Rides a little rough but over all I love it. Took it to the badlands on 29" tires to test it out. had a great time!
So much fun, even the wife likes to play in it!
http://i219.photobucket.com/albums/c...hers/VJeep.jpg

Arch Stanton 12-14-2011 07:49 AM

Does your TJ Sport have a Dana 44 in the rear? If so, did you get any driveline vibes? Thanks!


Quote:

Originally Posted by SinfulDragon (Post 1827087)
Also have the Rough Country 2.5" lift and 2.2 shocks that came with it. Rides a little rough but over all I love it. Took it to the badlands on 29" tires to test it out. had a great time!
So much fun, even the wife likes to play in it!
http://i219.photobucket.com/albums/c...hers/VJeep.jpg


TnDz TJ 12-14-2011 07:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Arch Stanton (Post 1827068)
Are you going install quick disconnects and new shocks? Where did you get the nutserts for he Rubicon rocker guards? How is the ride with the BB? I bought a pair off Craigslist that I plan on installing over the holidays. How is the ride with the BB? Thanks for your post and link to the install! Have a good one!

I modified my original endlinks and made them 2" longer

http://www.wranglerforum.com/attachm...3/disco001.jpg

http://www.wranglerforum.com/attachm...3/disco002.jpg

http://www.wranglerforum.com/attachm...3/disco003.jpg


http://www.wranglerforum.com/attachm...3/disco004.jpg
I got the Rubi rockers for free from a local wheeler that upgraded to Poison Spiders... the nutserts I used are standard 1/4 x20 flanged type for the body and 3/8 x 16 for the underside... also flanged.

The ride is just like it was... stock....

Arch Stanton 12-14-2011 07:55 AM

That was a good idea modifying the end links. Where did you get the nutserts? Are they aluminum or steel? Also, did you do anything to the track bar mounting brackets? Thanks for the information and the pics of your Jeep on the Rubicon trail!

Quote:

Originally Posted by TnDz TJ (Post 1827107)
I modified my original endlinks and made them 2" longer

http://www.wranglerforum.com/attachm...3/disco003.jpg


http://www.wranglerforum.com/attachm...3/disco004.jpg
I got the Rubi rockers for free from a local wheeler that upgraded to Poison Spiders... the nutserts I used are standard 1/4 x20 flanged type for the body and 3/8 x 16 for the underside... also flanged.

The ride is just like it was... stock....


SinfulDragon 12-14-2011 07:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Arch Stanton (Post 1827102)
Does your TJ Sport have a Dana 44 in the rear? If so, did you get any driveline vibes? Thanks!

Has the 35. I did install a TCase lowering bracket to remove the very minor vibes that I got. Planning on pulling that and doing the MML, hopefully this winter.
But I also got 3" of lift out of the 2.5" springs. zero sag so far with the heavy front bumper and winch on there. Lift has been installed for 6 months now.

TnDz TJ 12-14-2011 07:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Arch Stanton (Post 1827076)
That's good to know. What brand and how much is the MM lift? How easy was it to install? Thank you!

I made my own... 3.5" centered holes on 1" steel plate. there are writeups for a DYI. Rough Country sells the cheapest at about $50 and take no more than an hour... You must raise your fan shroud as high as it will go to clear the fan... about 1/2"... I used a dremel and reamed new holes... 10 minutes tops.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Arch Stanton (Post 1827110)
That was a good idea modifying the end links. Where did you get the nutserts? Are they aluminum or steel? Also, did you do anything to the track bar mounting brackets? Thanks for the information and the pics of your Jeep on the Rubicon trail!

I got the nutserts from Kimball Midwest... steel.... kinda pricey... but I have access to all this stuff at work...:thumb:

I have an album for all the Rubicon Trail pics and some vids...
http://s853.photobucket.com/albums/a...%20Trail-2011/

Arch Stanton 12-14-2011 08:09 AM

Thanks for the info on the links and the nutserts. I look forward to looking at the Rubicon pics when I get off work! Have a good one!


Quote:

Originally Posted by TnDz TJ (Post 1827115)
I made my own... 3.5" centered holes on 1" steel plate. there are writeups for a DYI. Rough Country sells the cheapest at about $50 and take no more than an hour... You must raise your fan shroud as high as it will go to clear the fan... about 1/2"... I used a dremel and reamed new holes... 10 minutes tops.



I got the nutserts from Kimball Midwest... steel.... kinda pricey... but I have access to all this stuff at work...:thumb:

I have an album for all the Rubicon Trail pics and some vids...
Rubicon Trail-2011 pictures by tgrisko - Photobucket


Arch Stanton 12-14-2011 08:12 AM

I've read good and bad things about the springs. Lupinsea on the other forum has a nice write up on the RC Springs and OME shocks. I have the OME shocks waiting to be installed, and I'm thinking about selling the BB and buying springs. Thanks for the info!
Have a good one!

Quote:

Originally Posted by SinfulDragon (Post 1827111)
Has the 35. I did install a TCase lowering bracket to remove the very minor vibes that I got. Planning on pulling that and doing the MML, hopefully this winter.
But I also got 3" of lift out of the 2.5" springs. zero sag so far with the heavy front bumper and winch on there. Lift has been installed for 6 months now.


jeepinmike 12-14-2011 09:45 AM

Part of the equation is if you want to take the time to piece it together, or do you want a packaged solution?

If you want to piece it together, you can sometimes do it cheaper, especially if you hold out for good used pieces.


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