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Booosh 12-23-2011 12:09 AM

Headlight ponderance
 
could it be that Jeep has decided to jeep the headlights on the Wranglers the same and not switch to HID or any other headlight assembly due to lower cost to fix? With it being trail rated out of the box, this is the only explanation I could come up with when their other lines have different headlights.

I'm def. not the one to ask for this sort of thing, so if anyone else knows more than me that'd be great. Just trying to figure out why they'd keep the headlights they have on them.

kbwwolf 12-23-2011 12:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Booosh (Post 1851886)
could it be that Jeep has decided to jeep the headlights on the Wranglers the same and not switch to HID or any other headlight assembly due to lower cost to fix? With it being trail rated out of the box, this is the only explanation I could come up with when their other lines have different headlights.

I'm def. not the one to ask for this sort of thing, so if anyone else knows more than me that'd be great. Just trying to figure out why they'd keep the headlights they have on them.

Same reason they keep the stock 3.21 gears. They're consumer retarded.

For the headlights, here:

jk headlights

aftermarket headlight bulb review

2011 Headlight upgrade (works for '12, as well)

DiSH 12-23-2011 01:30 AM

I am also disappointed with the headlights. I just placed an order for the Philips +80 bulbs. Once I get them installed, I will let you know what I think. Fairly inexpensive, and they should make a quick upgrade to the stock lights--I hope!

And yes, I could see them keeping the same headlights due to cost/abuse when using off-road.

strider_mt2k 12-23-2011 03:29 AM

Headlights are on my list as well.

CrazyBull 12-23-2011 04:43 AM

I have a 12' and my headlights sucked. I replaced them with the Deltas.. I couldn't afford the Hella kit. But I'm pleased with them, and have them augmented with the 6" delta Fogs. Lots of deer here, and snow is setting in. I'm happy now with visibility.

phat-12 12-23-2011 07:52 AM

Those Deltas have the really blue bulbs that I like.

krutj 12-23-2011 01:40 PM

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Originally Posted by phat-12 (Post 1852277)
Those Deltas have the really blue bulbs that I like.

You obviously know very little about lighting.

kjeeper10 12-23-2011 02:27 PM

:eek: ^^

Barrie 12-23-2011 02:35 PM

Keep it polite people. :thumb:

HiCap 12-23-2011 02:44 PM

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Originally Posted by phat-12 (Post 1852277)
Those Deltas have the really blue bulbs that I like.

Replaced the really blue bulbs in my Deltas with Philips Power Xtream +80, Now after Delta kit + RallyLights harness + Philips + 80,= good headlights.

krutj 12-23-2011 02:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Barrie (Post 1853094)
Keep it polite people. :thumb:

Merry Christmas Barrie....

Feel free to call me out, I thought that I was as polite as could be....

Good thing that I didn't post my real thoughts....

kbwwolf 12-23-2011 03:24 PM

Wait till Hilldweller gets here...thought I must admit, when he trashes your lighting choices it's usually with the utmost decorum. :D

krutj 12-23-2011 03:36 PM

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Originally Posted by kbwwolf (Post 1853196)
Wait till Hilldweller gets here...thought I must admit, when he trashes your lighting choices it's usually with the utmost decorum. :D

Probably won't see Hilldweller popping in on this...little issue yesterday with the "halo" lights. He told the OP the truth.....you can figure out the rest.

Merry Christmas....

krutj 12-23-2011 03:39 PM

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Originally Posted by HiCap (Post 1853113)
Replaced the really blue bulbs in my Deltas with Philips Power Xtream +80, Now after Delta kit + RallyLights harness + Philips + 80,= good headlights.

When you can, get some Cibie lenses..then you'll have great headlights...:thumb:

kbwwolf 12-23-2011 03:46 PM

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Originally Posted by krutj (Post 1853216)
Probably won't see Hilldweller popping in on this...little issue yesterday with the "halo" lights. He told the OP the truth.....you can figure out the rest.

Merry Christmas....

Mmmm...Just saw that thread. :D

Merry Christmas to you, too...

HiCap 12-23-2011 05:54 PM

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Originally Posted by krutj (Post 1853221)
When you can, get some Cibie lenses..then you'll have great headlights...:thumb:

I have the Delta lights because of the LED DRL. No one else has DRL option!

AzTJ 12-23-2011 06:10 PM

Most of those cheap HID kits you see really are not all that they are cracked up to be, especially when you need a projector housing and high and low in one bulb in a relatively small housing. You can get MUCH better light using a good quality H4 bulb and a good housing. Doing some mad custom work to retofit an OEM HID projector and housing into a 7" housing will be a pain, especially when those HID's are mostly low beams only.

Hilldweller 12-24-2011 04:39 AM

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Originally Posted by HiCap (Post 1853525)
I have the Delta lights because of the LED DRL. No one else has DRL option!

It's not a DRL. Delta just calls it that. It's an LED "city light" which you can install in an E-code Cibie if you really want - it ain't that special...
Delta's bulbs are also not Xenon, as in "Xenon" like the German car companies mean, which is HID.
Delta lights are marketed with a bunch of gimmicks along with a little bit of engineering.


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Originally Posted by AzTJ (Post 1853552)
Most of those cheap HID kits you see really are not all that they are cracked up to be, especially when you need a projector housing and high and low in one bulb in a relatively small housing. You can get MUCH better light using a good quality H4 bulb and a good housing. Doing some mad custom work to retofit an OEM HID projector and housing into a 7" housing will be a pain, especially when those HID's are mostly low beams only.

None of the HID retrofit kits that put a rebased HID capsule into a filament reflector work well or are functional. The orientation of the light source is wrong for the parabola, the hot spots are mislocated, and they are illegal.
There's a way to put HIDs in a JK and a couple people have done it ---- you use complete HID assemblies, just like using complete LED assemblies if you want LED headlights.


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Originally Posted by krutj (Post 1853216)
Probably won't see Hilldweller popping in on this...little issue yesterday with the "halo" lights. He told the OP the truth.....you can figure out the rest.

Merry Christmas....

Yes; the moderators took a stand that I didn't agree with. They are allowing the open discussion of illegal activity on the board, ie modifications to JKs which are illegal and pose a safety threat to other motorists.
I believe that those types of threads should be closed.

krutj 12-24-2011 06:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Hilldweller (Post 1854609)
Yes; the moderators took a stand that I didn't agree with. They are allowing the open discussion of illegal activity on the board, ie modifications to JKs which are illegal and pose a safety threat to other motorists.
I believe that those types of threads should be closed.

Me too........:popcorn:

HiCap 12-24-2011 09:58 AM

[QUOTE=Hilldweller;1854609]It's not a DRL. Delta just calls it that. It's an LED "city light" which you can install in an E-code Cibie if you really want - it ain't that special...
Delta's bulbs are also not Xenon, as in "Xenon" like the German car companies mean, which is HID.
Delta lights are marketed with a bunch of gimmicks along with a little bit of engineering.


Call it city light LED, or LED DRL, it is a LED that is on whenever the jeep is running. Does the E-Code Cibie have the hole for the City light/DRL LED built in? If they do, why do they not offer the option of City light/DRL LED? I replaced the Xenon bulbs with Philips+80, they are big improvement, the Delta's should come with them. The Delta is an E-code light.

Barrie 12-24-2011 09:59 AM

Play time is over people, if we can't keep it polite and civil, and the Mod bashing out of the threads they will be closed.


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