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mikesudds 11-05-2007 02:36 PM

noob here! with a few questions
 
i'm considering purchasing a tj in the near future. is there anything i should be advised while i start to look for them? i only have around 7k to spend, so i'm pretty limited. i will probably end up with a 4 cyl from what i've researched before. as the 4.0's are a lot more pricy.

also, i will be doing mostly city driving, with the occasional 300 mile trip back home to see the parents. i have read that the 4cyl models are very capable w/the "around town" trips and on the trails, but how do they do on an extended period of time on the hwy?

02Prove 11-05-2007 02:42 PM

I done told you n00bzors!!! :D

GrnTJ 11-05-2007 03:07 PM

It would be a bit hard but you could find a 4.0 for that price. Still, a 4 banger looks more likely. Dont own one so I cant tell you much. I think its the 5 spd man. that came factory with 4.10 gears though. If you dont mind a stick that would be pretty nice.

mikesudds 11-05-2007 03:31 PM

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Originally Posted by 02Prove (Post 155428)
I done told you n00bzors!!! :D


i know, i know. i'm just so damn skeptical about a jeep.

02Prove 11-05-2007 03:33 PM

Don't be... the four and six are uber dependable engines capable of easily handling 100k +. The engine could very well outlast the Jeep if you play in it. There is an obvious lack of power on the 4 on the highway but other than that it will do highway speeds. Just takes longer to get there.

AzTJ 11-05-2007 03:44 PM

When in 4Lo you won't be able to tell much of a difference between the 4cy and the 6cyl... other than the high pitched buzz of the 4cyl. :D

Triple88a 11-05-2007 04:26 PM

2X on AzTjs.. You will have some harder time on the highway with the 4 banger. When looking for a rig, look for one with a metal fill plug in the rear differential. If i knew that before i got my rig i would have been much happier now, too bad i became a member here after i got my TJ. Black plastic plug means it has the D35 model differential in the back which is pretty weak so if you're planning on running big tires such as 35s I'd recommend you spend the few hundred bucks now instead of much more later. Metal plug = D44 = Happy and safe...

300six 11-05-2007 05:09 PM

2 weeks ago, my girlfriend and I were in the same boat you are: We wanted a TJ, but could only afford a 4 cylinder. All my friends told me not get one - its too slow, no power, won't go on the highway, top speed is only 70 mph, blah blah blah (these were obviously not jeep people).

All I can say is they were totally wrong. We're totally satisfied with our 1999 2.5 5 speed. The 4.10's give it plenty of pep in every gear - the thing feels light, quick, and all around fun to drive, even on the highway. In fact, this past Saturday, we blasted down the freeway at 80mph+ going to Atlanta. No BS, with the little 215/75 tires on it, it spins around 3500-3750RPM at that speed (best that I remember, someone correct me) and has plenty of passing power in 5th. All that with the A/C blasting!

Of course, I would love to have another inline 6 in the garage - but it just wasn't practical considering the price difference.

Triple88a 11-05-2007 06:40 PM

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Originally Posted by 300six (Post 155469)
In fact, this past Saturday, we blasted down the freeway at 80mph+ going to Atlanta. No BS, with the little 215/75 tires on it, it spins around 3500-3750RPM at that speed (best that I remember, someone correct me) and has plenty of passing power in 5th. All that with the A/C blasting!


I have an I6 and i hit 100 easily.. on a track that is :rolleyes:

debruins 11-05-2007 06:55 PM

well i can tell you that i coulda gotten a stock 6cyl with 65,000 miles on it for 6,500
i think what you need to do is look really hard, and look on craigslist.org, you dont need a hard top so that will save you money, the 6cyl is just better, it may be fine with the 29's but i guarranty you, you will at least want to go to 32's and then then if you have the 4cyl you'll have to put 1K into regearing where as the 6 cyl can easily pull of 33's with stock gearing and can even do 35's

but then again if you're doing mostly city driving go with a 4cyl, but also know that a 4cyl automatic will go like a turtle!!! DO NOT GET A 4 CYL AUTO!

i wouldnt even buy a 6cyl auto, well i wouldnt even get an 8cyl superdharged auto, i just hate autos!

Triple88a 11-05-2007 07:06 PM

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Originally Posted by debruins (Post 155531)
i wouldnt even buy a 6cyl auto, well i wouldnt even get an 8cyl superdharged auto, i just hate autos!

How about if you can get a TJ with V8 6 speed semi-auto (sportotronic or whatever its called) for the same price as your I6 5 speed :rolleyes:? Something else thats really cool is the CVT tranny :D I'd love to have one of those in my TJ.

Dare2BSquare 11-05-2007 07:27 PM

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Originally Posted by debruins (Post 155531)
but also know that a 4cyl automatic will go like a turtle!!! DO NOT GET A 4 CYL AUTO!

Nuttin wrong with a 4 banger auto. Mine does just fine. I do not want to do over 70 in a refrigerator box, anyway. It has plenty of low end power and I can cruise at 60-65 hwy all day.

debruins 11-05-2007 07:41 PM

with what size tires/ what yr auto

Dare2BSquare 11-05-2007 07:54 PM

30 x 9.50 MT's 1995

dwdrums801 11-05-2007 10:33 PM

try n find a d44 rear i hate myself for not doin it haha

Triple88a 11-05-2007 10:43 PM

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Originally Posted by dwdrums801 (Post 155600)
try n find a d44 rear i hate myself for not doin it haha

I didn't even know about it lol :D:crash:

dwdrums801 11-05-2007 11:06 PM

i know i didnt either till I wanted to go bigger in the tire dept. but now im ending up with a locker on my super 35 kit...probl. wouldent have had one if i had the d44

Jonny15 11-05-2007 11:23 PM

i've got a 99 se with the 2.5 4 cylinder and i have no problems at all. I'm going to say get a manual with the 2.5 and heres why...yes the 2.5 is a little engine but i find you can make up for alot of that power by shifting at the right times, usually around 3500 rpm's where the 2.5 makes most of its HP. With an auto you dont have the choice of when to shift to make the most power. It is a dependable little engine, pretty good on gas, i get around 19 mpg which is great for a jeep and remember i dont drive very economically. If you can find a great price on a good condition 4.0 by all means go for it you cant go wrong, the 4.0 is a great engine, but they're usually about 2k more than the 2.5's.

All in all i dont feel my 2.5 is underpowered at all for my needs, i just shift at higher rpm's and i get good results, dare i say the 2.5 even feels a little snappy in 2nd and 3rd at about 3500 rpm's. I think the best thing you can do is find a good condition jeep you want at the right price and buy it because both engines will serve you very well for a very long time. Dont be afraid of the 2.5!!:D


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