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ILL_state 01-02-2012 07:39 PM

Tire change
 
I am relatively new to a jeep having bought it in september and i was thinking about if i ever get a flat or something happens where i need to change a tire. should i look into getting a hi-lift jack? right now i have 31's without any lift and i thought it may be difficult to change with an ordinary jack.

XJ Knight 01-02-2012 07:46 PM

High lifts arent the most stable things in the world for lifting a vehlicle.. But if your careful with how you place it and get a jack stand under your axle asap they are a good option as they can be nicely mounted on the outside of the Jeep. Look into a high lift jack offroad base to help with the jacks stability..

DeFazio 01-02-2012 08:21 PM

x2 with the jack stands. hi lifts are great for offload jacking other than that a standard car jack should suffice. I'm pretty sure the stock jack can change a tire up to 35"? not positive though

Jerry Bransford 01-02-2012 11:42 PM

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Hi-Lift jacks are inherently unstable and are definitely not the preferred tool for a simple tire change. I even stopped carrying my Hi-Lift years ago since they are simply extra weight without me ever having much need to use them on the trail. In fact, I've only used mine twice in 15 years of offroading and neither time was it required or the safest way to have jacked up my Jeep. My Hi-Lift now lives permanently in a backyard shed.

Besides, the OE factory jack works fine for changing 35" tires, and even 37" in a pinch, no matter how tall the suspension lift is since you lift from the axle. Only tire height affects axle height.

Here's my factory jack lifting my axle with 35" tires, you can see it does so with room to spare. :)

ILL_state 01-03-2012 03:47 PM

would quadratec sell the factory jacks? if not do you know where i can get one?

XJ Knight 01-03-2012 03:56 PM

if you don't have your stock jack perhaps this is a good option as it is compact enough to not take up to much space 2 Ton Compact Trolley Jack

InvertChaos 01-03-2012 03:57 PM

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Originally Posted by ILL_state
would quadratec sell the factory jacks? if not do you know where i can get one?

You've checked under your passenger seat right? Just checking. I've heard that if you can find a land rover in the junkyard, their bottle jacks make a great replacement.

XJ Knight 01-03-2012 04:08 PM

XJ's and ZJ's arent' the most difficult vehlicles to find in the yards. Im guessing if you found one that still had a stock jack in it those would work as well if not be the same ones used in the YJ's and TJ's durring there respective time frames

WaterDR 01-03-2012 05:01 PM

If I get a flat, two words: Tow Truck.

XJ Knight 01-03-2012 05:05 PM

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Originally Posted by WaterDR (Post 1884575)
If I get a flat, two words: Tow Truck.

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tangofox007 01-03-2012 07:36 PM

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Originally Posted by WaterDR (Post 1884575)
If I get a flat, two words: Tow Truck.

Why is that?

XJ Knight 01-03-2012 08:40 PM

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Originally Posted by tangofox007 (Post 1885151)
Why is that?

my guess is he doesn't carry a spare.. That isn't uncommon for Wrangler owners especially if they are running larger tires and don't have a aftermarket tire carrier as the stock tire carrier has it's limits

WaterDR 01-03-2012 09:40 PM

No. I have a spare and it is the correct size too.

Unless I am out in the bush, flat tire results in phone call. That's why God created road side assistance. That and the fact that I have a wife.

TJNewbie 01-03-2012 10:49 PM

Hope you've got AAA.

jkaufman_95 01-03-2012 10:53 PM

I carry my stock jack, but there is a bottle jack in my garage that would be just as good as a replacement for $25...

tangofox007 01-03-2012 11:08 PM

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Originally Posted by WaterDR (Post 1885643)

Unless I am out in the bush, flat tire results in phone call. That's why God created road side assistance. That and the fact that I have a wife.

That's a fantastic way to turn a minor inconvenience into a major hassle.

Just a couple of weeks ago, a middle-aged, able-bodied man had a flat tire in front of my house. I offered to change it for him. No way, said he. Called AAA. Three hours later, he was on his way.

WaterDR 01-04-2012 01:14 AM

Not a problem here. I live in a town of 12k with a major interstate passing through and probably 3 tow truck services within a mile from my house. Sometimes it is best to NOT do something just because you can. If I had to be somewhere, I'll do what it takes. I don't use AAA. I use USAA and they allow me to call the service directly and then re-imburse me. This means the service gets paid pull price and not some discounted rate.

Missed three days of work last winter installing a battery in my wife's car....f-ed my back up. Could have had the local auto parts store do it for free. :)

I don't rotate tires, I don't do brakes, and I don't change oil even though I can and have many times. These services are just too cheap and the places need the business.

s3nt3nc3d 01-04-2012 03:18 AM

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Originally Posted by WaterDR (Post 1886275)
I don't rotate tires, I don't do brakes, and I don't change oil even though I can and have many times. These services are just too cheap and the places need the business.

I've seen enough of these places screw up customer vehicles that I don't care if it costs me 3x as much to do it myself...at least I ensure it's done right. Or if something DOES get screwed up, I know exactly who to blame and don't have to hire an attorney to get it taken care of....

jkaufman_95 01-04-2012 05:51 AM

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Originally Posted by s3nt3nc3d

I've seen enough of these places screw up customer vehicles that I don't care if it costs me 3x as much to do it myself...at least I ensure it's done right. Or if something DOES get screwed up, I know exactly who to blame and don't have to hire an attorney to get it taken care of....

Agreed. Last time I took a company truck to walmart I told them to use mobil one and they said they didn't have it and had valvoline that was "just the same" uh huh... Goodbye.

Rubicondon53 01-04-2012 06:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Jerry Bransford
Hi-Lift jacks are inherently unstable and are definitely not the preferred tool for a simple tire change. I even stopped carrying my Hi-Lift years ago since they are simply extra weight without me ever having much need to use them on the trail. In fact, I've only used mine twice in 15 years of offroading and neither time was it required or the safest way to have jacked up my Jeep. My Hi-Lift now lives permanently in a backyard shed.

Besides, the OE factory jack works fine for changing 35" tires, and even 37" in a pinch, no matter how tall the suspension lift is since you lift from the axle. Only tire height affects axle height.

Here's my factory jack lifting my axle with 35" tires, you can see it does so with room to spare. :)

Agree x3. I've had mine since 98, and used it only three times Once on the trail, as a hand winch, before we got the electric 8k winch, to pull a fence post, and to lift the corner of my back porch for foundation work. My hi lift lives in the barn.

WaterDR 01-04-2012 07:22 AM

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Originally Posted by s3nt3nc3d (Post 1886407)
I've seen enough of these places screw up customer vehicles that I don't care if it costs me 3x as much to do it myself...at least I ensure it's done right. Or if something DOES get screwed up, I know exactly who to blame and don't have to hire an attorney to get it taken care of....

I don't use Walmart or a Sears types of place. To have tires rotated and balanced, I use a tire place. Oil changes? The dealer or a Valvoline shop. All places where I can see everything myself and walk back and take a look. Everyones gotta find what works for them.

I also prefer to eat at places with exposed kitchens. :thumb:

tangofox007 01-04-2012 09:07 AM

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Originally Posted by s3nt3nc3d (Post 1886407)
I've seen enough of these places screw up customer vehicles that I don't care if it costs me 3x as much to do it myself...at least I ensure it's done right. Or if something DOES get screwed up, I know exactly who to blame and don't have to hire an attorney to get it taken care of....

I did a brake job last week for a neighbor who had just gotten a free tire rotation from a chain tire store. Right side lug nuts were torqued so tight I had trouble getting them loose with a 25" breaker bar. (The stock lug wrench would not have worked.) Left side lug nuts were so undertorqued they would have come off with a 1/4" ratchet wrench.

Jerry Bransford 01-04-2012 09:34 AM

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Originally Posted by jkaufman_95 (Post 1886530)
Agreed. Last time I took a company truck to walmart I told them to use mobil one and they said they didn't have it and had valvoline that was "just the same" uh huh... Goodbye.

Valvoline is one of the best quality oils in the world, I'd place their lubricants on the same level as any other top quality lubricant made, including Mobil or Mobil-1. Personally, I have preferred and used Valvoline for over 40 years. :)

jkaufman_95 01-04-2012 10:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Jerry Bransford
Valvoline is one of the best quality oils in the world, I'd place their lubricants on the same level as any other top quality lubricant made, including Mobil or Mobil-1. Personally, I have preferred and used Valvoline for over 40 years. :)

That's fine, it's a personal preference thing, for my engines I run mobil one full synthetic, my dads car (1999 crown vic) has 198,000 with maybe an oil change every 10-12k and the only problem it's had is I replaced the battery a few months ago.. Not saying the same results couldn't be found using valvoline , I just tend to find what I like and stick with it forever

ILL_state 01-04-2012 02:35 PM

my neighbor's getting rid of the jack for his JK, would that work?

XJ Knight 01-04-2012 02:52 PM

yerp

WaterDR 01-04-2012 08:55 PM

I know everyone is full of horror stories from "chain" places....wanna hear some from mom and pop places?


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