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bcpaddler 01-10-2012 12:42 PM

Lift suggestions from my fellow Arkansans
 
:wavey: Hello fellow Jeepers... I'm wanting to lift my Jeep and really don't know how high to go and or what make... There are lots of different post throughout the forum, but I would like to hear from locals that tread on the same types of trails I do (Super Lift 1's, 2's and a possible 3... & a little mud here and there)

As of now I'm looking at the following:

Rough Country 2.5" w/ 1.25 body lift running 31.5 tires
Rough Country 3.5 lift still running the same size tires

Again, I would like to hear from you guy's and gal's to see what you run, cost, pro's and cons, and recommendations.

My concerns are : #1 the risk of Death Wobble #2 cost of the lift #3 Installation easy or pay someone??

Thanks everyone in advanced for your time and information.

bc

jmcc75 01-10-2012 04:36 PM

Between those two lifts? I'd do the 2.5/1.25 and add some good control arms and stuff. I've heard from folks around here that for the price its not a bad set up, I would run it. If I had the money I'd go after the OME lift from dpg offroad. Dirk is a cool guy and can get you a sweet lift for cheaper than anywhere else. But really buddy its up to your budget. If I wanted to try to sway your decision, I would've said SAVVY OR DIE!!!!! haha

bcpaddler 01-10-2012 05:20 PM

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Originally Posted by jmcc75 (Post 1907700)
Between those two lifts? I'd do the 2.5/1.25 and add some good control arms and stuff. I've heard from folks around here that for the price its not a bad set up, I would run it. If I had the money I'd go after the OME lift from dpg offroad. Dirk is a cool guy and can get you a sweet lift for cheaper than anywhere else. But really buddy its up to your budget. If I wanted to try to sway your decision, I would've said SAVVY OR DIE!!!!! haha

I did look at a couple of Savvy lifts, and whew... they're proud of those babies.. Maybe when I get rich and famous I'll have one of those installed.

Thanks jmcc for your input.

Barmanvarn 01-12-2012 08:03 PM

IMO that's alot of lift for that size tire. Why did you decide on that tall of a list?

bcpaddler 01-12-2012 09:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Barmanvarn
IMO that's alot of lift for that size tire. Why did you decide on that tall of a list?

Well my first choice was a 2.5", but after much debate and discussion. I made the decision to go 3.5 now, as I only want to lift it once, and when the time comes, I will get bigger tires. I've seen several pictures if other Jeeps that have similar lifts with the same size tires, and they don't look too bad.

Are you looking at lifting yours? If so, what kind / size?

Barmanvarn 01-12-2012 10:06 PM

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Originally Posted by bcpaddler (Post 1915826)
Well my first choice was a 2.5", but after much debate and discussion. I made the decision to go 3.5 now, as I only want to lift it once, and when the time comes, I will get bigger tires. I've seen several pictures if other Jeeps that have similar lifts with the same size tires, and they don't look too bad.

Are you looking at lifting yours? If so, what kind / size?

I hear ya, was just curious. :)

I'm running a 1.5" TF leveling kit w/ 33s.

I like the space I have now in the wheels wells. The problem is that when I add bumpers (which I hope to do very soon), I'll lose some of the lift I got from the TF kit.

So my place is to get a 2.5" kit w/ new coils and shocks so that after adding the weight of the new bumpers I'll probably end up being slightly higher than I am now. And I can reuse the front spacers from the TF kit to level out the front if needed.

Down the road, if I end up needing more wheel space to avoid rub, I can ditch the stock flares and get some flats.

bcpaddler 01-16-2012 11:03 AM

Here is a link to a thread with in the forum, there is a pic of a 3.5" lift, running 31.5 tires.. Think it looks alright?

http://www.wranglerforum.com/f5/3-25...ft-122570.html

Barmanvarn 01-16-2012 11:24 AM

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Originally Posted by bcpaddler (Post 1926343)
Here is a link to a thread with in the forum, there is a pic of a 3.5" lift, running 31.5 tires.. Think it looks alright?

http://www.wranglerforum.com/f5/3-25...ft-122570.html

They all look fine to me. Odd thing is that they don't like they have any more clearance than I do, and I"m running 33s w/ just 1.5" of lift.

bcpaddler 01-16-2012 12:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Barmanvarn (Post 1926398)
They all look fine to me. Odd thing is that they don't like they have any more clearance than I do, and I"m running 33s w/ just 1.5" of lift.

Interesting... I'm really looking forward to seeing yours up close at the meet and greet.

Barmanvarn 01-16-2012 02:34 PM

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Originally Posted by bcpaddler (Post 1926586)
Interesting... I'm really looking forward to seeing yours up close at the meet and greet.

Actually, the 1.5" TF leveling kit is listed as actually a 2" in the rear, so the 3.25 would be roughly an inch higher than mine which would be hard to tell from looking at pictures.

Should be all bring mechanic's dollies so that we can all roll up under each other's rigs? LOL

arcountryboy 01-18-2012 09:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Barmanvarn (Post 1926398)
They all look fine to me. Odd thing is that they don't like they have any more clearance than I do, and I"m running 33s w/ just 1.5" of lift.


You run a JK. He has a TJ. The JK's already come with taller tires and bigger rims so they naturally sit somewhat higher than the TJ from the factory. A TJ will need around 3.5+" of lift to meet a 2 inch lifted JK.

bcpaddler 01-18-2012 10:11 AM

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Originally Posted by arcountryboy (Post 1933715)
You run a JK. He has a TJ. The JK's already come with taller tires and bigger rims so they naturally sit somewhat higher than the TJ from the factory. A TJ will need around 3.5+" of lift to meet a 2 inch lifted JK.

ARCountryBoy - you coming to either of the Meet and Greet shindigs we have planned for February 4th and 12th? I think we're up to approximately 20 Jeeps and a handful of FJ's...

Hope to see you there!

bc

arcountryboy 01-18-2012 11:36 AM

Gonna try to. Hope I can.

chickiebaby 02-04-2012 06:54 PM

Hey BC...

My lift that you were looking at is the RC 3.25 hybrid lift. I also bought the steering stablizer too. I run the MB Chaos 5 rims (15x8 with 3.75 backspacing). The tires are Wrangler Duratracs (33/12.5) which is what is recommended with the lift.

I bought the lift from Rough Country. I think if you call, there might be a forum discount. The rims and tires can from Discount Tire Direct. If you buy them together, they will mount and balance them for free.

bcpaddler 02-06-2012 12:35 PM

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Originally Posted by chickiebaby (Post 1994749)
Hey BC...

My lift that you were looking at is the RC 3.25 hybrid lift. I also bought the steering stablizer too. I run the MB Chaos 5 rims (15x8 with 3.75 backspacing). The tires are Wrangler Duratracs (33/12.5) which is what is recommended with the lift.

I bought the lift from Rough Country. I think if you call, there might be a forum discount. The rims and tires can from Discount Tire Direct. If you buy them together, they will mount and balance them for free.

Thanks a million Chickie! Since mine was the smallest on the trail last weekend. I'm trying hard to get one. Next thing would be if I could only convince Justin to help me install it - he's obviously the man when it comes to MODS...

Again, thank you very much - hope to see you guys next Sunday.

Bomber65 02-08-2012 07:49 AM

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Originally Posted by bcpaddler (Post 1907104)
:wavey: Hello fellow Jeepers... I'm wanting to lift my Jeep and really don't know how high to go and or what make... There are lots of different post throughout the forum, but I would like to hear from locals that tread on the same types of trails I do (Super Lift 1's, 2's and a possible 3... & a little mud here and there)

As of now I'm looking at the following:

Rough Country 2.5" w/ 1.25 body lift running 31.5 tires
Rough Country 3.5 lift still running the same size tires

Again, I would like to hear from you guy's and gal's to see what you run, cost, pro's and cons, and recommendations.

My concerns are : #1 the risk of Death Wobble #2 cost of the lift #3 Installation easy or pay someone??

Thanks everyone in advanced for your time and information.

bc

OME makes a nice 2" lift and you can add a BL with it and run 33". I have a 3" Zone lift ($459) and run 33". Also consider a adjustable track bar at least in the front. If not you have to drill a new hole for the stock track bar. And the new hole will be very close to the old one. I didn't like that idea. But a lot of people have done it.

Death wobble is not a problem when adding a lift. DW comes from worn out or loose suspension parts. Driveline vibes come from a lift.

You never can tell what else you may need after doing a lift. After doing my lift I got slight driveline vibes. Some do and some don't. But be prepared to spend a little more than you thought.

Get a can of PB Blaster and start spraying it on all the bolts. Pay special attention to the top shock mounts in the rear. Those have been known to break when removing. Yeap, I had one to break and spent a whole day drilling that bolt out. Not fun at all.

bcpaddler 02-08-2012 09:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Bomber65 (Post 2006262)
OME makes a nice 2" lift and you can add a BL with it and run 33". I have a 3" Zone lift ($459) and run 33". Also consider a adjustable track bar at least in the front. If not you have to drill a new hole for the stock track bar. And the new hole will be very close to the old one. I didn't like that idea. But a lot of people have done it.

Death wobble is not a problem when adding a lift. DW comes from worn out or loose suspension parts. Driveline vibes come from a lift.

You never can tell what else you may need after doing a lift. After doing my lift I got slight driveline vibes. Some do and some don't. But be prepared to spend a little more than you thought.

Get a can of PB Blaster and start spraying it on all the bolts. Pay special attention to the top shock mounts in the rear. Those have been known to break when removing. Yeap, I had one to break and spent a whole day drilling that bolt out. Not fun at all.

Thanks John. I did look at the zone lifts, and I've strongly considered it. Because this is my first Jeep, and I'm not a mechanic, I need all the advise / help I can get. They say installing one is easy, but I'm leery to tackle it myself. I've pondered having it done...???

bcpaddler 02-28-2012 02:19 PM

Alright, after much thought and research, I've decided to go with the following:

RC 3.25 suspension lift with 2.2 shocks
RC 2.2 steering stabilizer
RC Quick sway bar disconnects

Who's the pro that would like coach me while attempting to put this thing on :rofl:

It should be here Thursday March 1st. I'm going to start soaking crap down with some PB blaster tomorrow if I can get my garage all covered up.

I'm in no huge hurry to get it on, but as soon as it arrives, I know I'll be chomping at the bit!

Thanks for all of your advise, and comments!

Bomber65 02-28-2012 08:31 PM

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Originally Posted by bcpaddler (Post 2084022)
Alright, after much thought and research, I've decided to go with the following:

RC 3.25 suspension lift with 2.2 shocks
RC 2.2 steering stabilizer
RC Quick sway bar disconnects

Who's the pro that would like coach me while attempting to put this thing on :rofl:

It should be here Thursday March 1st. I'm going to start soaking crap down with some PB blaster tomorrow if I can get my garage all covered up.

I'm in no huge hurry to get it on, but as soon as it arrives, I know I'll be chomping at the bit!

Thanks for all of your advise, and comments!

I should be able to help you out but it will be at least two weeks. It's not as bad as it seems. Pay special attention to those upper shock bolts with the PB Blaster. Its a real pain in the a,,,, when those bolts break, and they are known to break. Might want to rent a strut compressor to get the new springs in easier. What all comes with the lift you bought? Shocks/Springs? Control arms? transfer case drop?

bcpaddler 02-28-2012 08:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Bomber65

I should be able to help you out but it will be at least two weeks. It's not as bad as it seems. Pay special attention to those upper shock bolts with the PB Blaster. Its a real pain in the a,,,, when those bolts break, and they are known to break. Might want to rent a strut compressor to get the new springs in easier. What all comes with the lift you bought? Shocks/Springs? Control arms? transfer case drop?

Thanks man... again I'm in no big hurry. If you get busy no problem. And yes, it came with, shocks, springs, case drop, and a few other things. I'll post a pic tomorrow from work that shows all the neat stuff that I can't name ;)

chickiebaby 02-29-2012 12:17 AM

Yeah I had a shock bolt break off. Took it to my mechanic and they had problems getting it out.

The spring compressor is definitely needed. Don't forget a torx bit as well.

The only thing not included was extended bump stops. I'm still looking for the best ones to buy after putting that lift on.

Definitely soak it all in PB Blaster. It will make a huge difference.

Bomber65 02-29-2012 07:28 AM

Sure would have been nice if RC would include bumpstop extensions with that kit and full 3.25" coils. The kit I just looked up shows 2 1/2" springs and .75" spacer. One thing you might want to look into getting is a front adjustable trackbar so you don't have to drill another hole for the trackbar. Look at the instructions (photo 7) and notice how close the new hole will be to the old one. Adjustable TB will also make it easier to get your front axle back centered. Its going to shift after the springs are added. It's a toss up whether your going to get driveline vibes. Some do, some don't. So you might have to get a SYE, DS, and rear adjustable control arms (Mo Money). My luck wasn't good with my 3" lift so I am needing the SYE. I have a T55 torx if you need one. Cambolts may be needed if your Jeep doesn't already have them. But when you get the alignment they can add those. I would daily spray PB Blaster for a couple weeks on the shock bolts (upper mainly). Then hopefully we don't break a bolt.

bcpaddler 02-29-2012 08:39 AM

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Originally Posted by chickiebaby (Post 2086273)
Yeah I had a shock bolt break off. Took it to my mechanic and they had problems getting it out.

The spring compressor is definitely needed. Don't forget a torx bit as well.

The only thing not included was extended bump stops. I'm still looking for the best ones to buy after putting that lift on.

Definitely soak it all in PB Blaster. It will make a huge difference.

I asked the tech before buying this kit about extended bump stops, and he said that stock ones will work fine? But if you find some in the next couple of weeks, let me know and I'll get some with you.

bcpaddler 02-29-2012 08:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Bomber65 (Post 2086746)
Sure would have been nice if RC would include bumpstop extensions with that kit and full 3.25" coils. The kit I just looked up shows 2 1/2" springs and .75" spacer. One thing you might want to look into getting is a front adjustable trackbar so you don't have to drill another hole for the trackbar. Look at the instructions (photo 7) and notice how close the new hole will be to the old one. Adjustable TB will also make it easier to get your front axle back centered. Its going to shift after the springs are added. It's a toss up whether your going to get driveline vibes. Some do, some don't. So you might have to get a SYE, DS, and rear adjustable control arms (Mo Money). My luck wasn't good with my 3" lift so I am needing the SYE. I have a T55 torx if you need one. Cambolts may be needed if your Jeep doesn't already have them. But when you get the alignment they can add those. I would daily spray PB Blaster for a couple weeks on the shock bolts (upper mainly). Then hopefully we don't break a bolt.

I also took the advise of Chickybaby and got the Perf. Steering Stabilizer. I asked about the SYE and they told me with this kit it is not needed. As far as the adjustable TB, I may wind up getting one? If we can hook up this weekend at SL, maybe you and I can walk around my Jeep and talk about possible problem areas?

Thanks John, I really appreciate all the insight.

Bomber65 02-29-2012 09:09 AM

Anything above a 2" lift its possible you may need a SYE. But if the funds allow, I would go ahead and do it anyway and avoid the transfer case drop. Looking back, I should have done this. We can get together at Superlift if you make it out. Plus there will be a lot of others there we can get with also. I've only done the lift on my Jeep so I still have a lot to learn. If we don't get together at Superlift then we only work a couple miles apart. We can meet up for lunch. Is your Jeep your daily driver?

My 3" Zone lift came with 2" bumpstop extensions. I would think your going to need about the same.

bcpaddler 02-29-2012 10:13 AM

It's not my DD, but I do drive it often. Just let me know when you want to hook up for lunch, and I'll drive it. BTW - Lunch will be on me :)

chickiebaby 02-29-2012 06:20 PM

I didn't get any vibes or death wobble so for now I'm just sticking with the TC drop. Totally up to you on that one.

The adjustable track bar would be a nice addition. I still have to add that to mine. I drilled the new hole, and it's really close to the edge of the bracket.

I'll keep my eye out for the bumpstops

bcpaddler 03-01-2012 03:48 PM

Bit the bullet and bought the Adjustable TB as well as 2" rear bump stops..

Chickiebaby - the bump stops were only $14.00 at Rough Country.

chickiebaby 03-01-2012 06:56 PM

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Originally Posted by bcpaddler
Bit the bullet and bought the Adjustable TB as well as 2" rear bump stops..

Chickiebaby - the bump stops were only $14.00 at Rough Country.

Thanks Blu. I'll go online and buy them

bcpaddler 03-08-2012 08:54 AM

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Before and After... Still need to put the TC spacers in. Maybe Friday night, I'm pooped.


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