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foxinthemudd 11-19-2007 05:36 AM

welders
 
ok so I've been lookin at welders...but don't know heads or tails about them can someone please explain the different types, voltages and any other pertinent info that is useful about them. thanks -Fox-

whitebuffalo 11-19-2007 09:02 AM

Bang for the buck, you can get a larger stick welder for the money. stick welder is a little bit harder to use and doesnt make as pretty of a weld.

Mig welders with gas lay down the nicest welds, but theyre not cheap. they are also easier to use than a stick.

someone with more technical knowledge will probably chime in......im just a self taught novice, but ive been doing it for a long time

mrbigjeep 11-19-2007 11:29 AM

get a mig if you can...way easier...if not, you can learn stick but it will take time...either way, get a 220V...a stick is a lot cheaper if you can't afford the mig...it works great once you learn it.

foxinthemudd 11-19-2007 05:13 PM

thanks for the imput guys so whats the difference between the mig and the tig? (as you can probably tell I know nothing about welders)

whitebuffalo 11-19-2007 05:51 PM

TIG is used primarily for aluminum

larphead 11-19-2007 10:51 PM

first off what are you going to primarily use it for?

if your looking for a decent all around setup to do body work and light (ie 5/16 - 3/8 or less) fabrication and Hobart handler mig or something similar in 110v or 220v would do ya fine. the 110v is alot more portable of course. but the 220v will let you weld thicker steel (higher amps) and less of a duty cycle.

now if you are just wanting to learn to weld and are not planning to do bodywork or sheet metal i would say a Lincoln buzzbox stick in 220v would do ya alright. i have built ALOT of stuff with my forney arc welder that is older than i am :D
dont ever get a 110v arc welder..they are a little more than a over-sized battery charger.

another option is a fluxcore welder. almost any MIG can run fluxcore but most fluxcore cant be converted to MIG. flux core is OK for most stuff but it runs hot so it makes bodywork a nightmare.

TIG you can use for anything steel, stainless, and aluminum. it is a very clean process in that you do not have any slag to clean up and you have so much better control over the weld. so much that you can weld a piece of like 22ga sheet to a 3/4 plate and have good penetration on both pieces.
the draw back is it is PAINFULLY slow and is not all that great for out of position welding.

foxinthemudd 11-19-2007 11:25 PM

primarily for everything. I want to build some stuff for the jeep like a rear bumper and maybe some sliders. but I dono my dad said that he might be willing to go halfs with me cause he really wants one too to use on his boat trailer and other things that he may feel the need to weld. so I'm just kinda trying to get an idea of what to look for. I do know that I want a feed welder though (no stick).

jjseel 11-20-2007 12:24 AM

I guess I am back ward. I think that the stick is easier for me, plus you can go thicker. My mig is a pita. someting is always wrong. My stick, just turn it on and burn some iron!:punk:



Just so you know, I don't do body work and such, I build fences and trailers. My MIG rig has been abused, but it seems somthing is always going wrong with it.

foxinthemudd 11-20-2007 12:42 AM

I don't really want to hassel with a stick when I can just use a wire feed. I guess thats the only one I've really used (not very much but for small things).


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