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flyinion 01-27-2012 05:04 PM

Tires for 2012 JKU with no lift
 
For now I'd like to keep the stock wheels until I get money to do new wheels, tires, and lift. So I'm looking for what the best size will be that will fit a 2012 JKU Sport with the 17" wheel package. I'm looking at either 265/70/17 or 285/70/17 Duratrac tires.

I'm pretty sure either will fit ok for street use, but what about rubbing during off road use? Nothing too crazy right now just snowy/muddy fire roads and fire trails, but I don't really know how much articulation I might end up with and I suspect the 285's might rub. I know if I go with the 265's it'll actually be a slightly smaller diameter than the 255/75's though.

TommyT 01-27-2012 07:53 PM

285's will fit with no lift. You might encounter a little rub on the stock rims becuse of backspacing. Those duratracs in 17" are pricey. If you were to go with 33's on MB72 wheels in 15" it wouldn't cost much more than just the tires for your 17' stockers. Just something for you to thik about. Go to Discount Tires website and do some pricing.

kjeeper10 01-27-2012 08:16 PM

Need to read this. Combo mentioned does
not require a lift.

http://www.wranglerforum.com/f33/33x...deo-96568.html

bobthetj03 01-27-2012 08:24 PM

Probably gonna need wheel spacers. What's the back spacing on those 17's?

flyinion 01-27-2012 08:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kjeeper10 (Post 1968258)
Need to read this. Combo mentioned does
not require a lift.

http://www.wranglerforum.com/f33/33x...deo-96568.html

Thanks for the responses guys. Yeah I knew about the 33x12.5x15 combo (though I didn't know about the rubbing part). I'm actually debating going with 16's when I do get a wheel/tire package. I think I'm just concerned the stock SR-A's aren't going to cut it until I get to that point and I've heard so much about the Duratrac's that I was thinking of "what ifs". I do have a question on the 33x12.5x15's is that 12.5 inches wide? Trying to figure out how to compare to the mm size ratings and all the tire size calculators I find only take the mm rating.

kbwwolf 01-27-2012 08:28 PM

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Originally Posted by bobthetj03 (Post 1968288)
Probably gonna need wheel spacers. What's the back spacing on those 17's?

6.25, iirc.

I say, dump the stockers, and heed this dude. vvvv

Quote:

Originally Posted by kjeeper10 (Post 1968258)
Need to read this. Combo mentioned does
not require a lift.

http://www.wranglerforum.com/f33/33x...deo-96568.html


flyinion 01-27-2012 08:46 PM

Yeah I was trying to get away with 16's for when I did buy wheels (due to hearing 15's are hit & miss on which ones will not cause problems on the JK's) but I can't believe the price difference. 16's & 17's are nearly the same and then there's like a $50 drop per tire for 15's in a similar size. Like I said though, I'd posted this thread for what to replace on the stock wheels if the stock rubber sucked, but it's just really sounding not worth it to even bother with that at all.

kjeeper10 01-27-2012 08:47 PM

Yep... At the time ESP used Tread lightly and good year had a $100 rebate. Plus $50 WF and $50 combo discount from DT. Paid something like $1300 for ALL 5 tires/wheels. Bigger tire, back space you need to fit and best part--very light combo. It's all in that thread.
You will pay close to a $1000 just for tires. Plan on upgrading again later?
Think about it. Save up-buy once-be done with it :)

DTD as a list of 15's that fit.
Most of the MB and Black rock series do.
Matter of fact, a good amount of alloys do I believe.

flyinion 01-27-2012 08:56 PM

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Originally Posted by kjeeper10 (Post 1968372)

DTD as a list of 15's that fit.
Most of the MB and Black rock series do.
Matter of fact, a good amount of alloys do I believe.

Thanks. Yeah I was all set to hold and wait for 15's until I'd read a few threads in the JK forum about not all 15's fitting and causing interference with the calipers and stuff and if you go to the regular DT site (haven't tried the DTD site) it won't let you look at wheels unless you tell it what it's going on and then it won't show anything lower than a 16 for the JK/JKU.

kjeeper10 01-27-2012 08:58 PM

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Originally Posted by flyinion

Thanks. Yeah I was all set to hold and wait for 15's until I'd read a few threads in the JK forum about not all 15's fitting and causing interference with the calipers and stuff and if you go to the regular DT site (haven't tried the DTD site) it won't let you look at wheels unless you tell it what it's going on and then it won't show anything lower than a 16 for the JK/JKU.

Let me find you the link he sent me.

kbwwolf 01-27-2012 09:02 PM

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Originally Posted by flyinion (Post 1968396)
Thanks. Yeah I was all set to hold and wait for 15's until I'd read a few threads in the JK forum about not all 15's fitting and causing interference with the calipers and stuff and if you go to the regular DT site (haven't tried the DTD site) it won't let you look at wheels unless you tell it what it's going on and then it won't show anything lower than a 16 for the JK/JKU.

A lot of sites do that. Annoys me no end. I found my rims on rimzoneonline.com, then called peeps on the phone and peppered em with questions.

F*** a buncha entering your Jeep's year and model...Let me browse, or I'll call and harass you verbally. :D

kjeeper10 01-27-2012 09:03 PM

Edit :rofl: you see? ^^

Ok --

Don't mess with any of the numbers up top. I did and lost the list. Had trouble finding it again because the site wants to know your vehicle, and throws nothing but stock sizes at you :)

http://www.discounttiredirect.com/di...wd=15&rw=&fcb=

flyinion 01-27-2012 09:30 PM

Ok just for the heck of it, if I was to go with 16's what width can I fit on those without rubbing? I know kbwwolf run's 16's and I like the way those look, but I'm sure I wouldn't be able to run whatever width he is until I get a lift. At least if I get one set of wheels/tires in 16's I can always put a wider tire on later down the road when the first set wears and I have a lift going. (or am I way off base here?) I know it will be more $$$ but assuming $$$ isn't the issue just functionality for the moment :D

bobthetj03 01-27-2012 09:36 PM

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Originally Posted by flyinion (Post 1968501)
Ok just for the heck of it, if I was to go with 16's what width can I fit on those without rubbing? I know kbwwolf run's 16's and I like the way those look, but I'm sure I wouldn't be able to run whatever width he is until I get a lift. At least if I get one set of wheels/tires in 16's I can always put a wider tire on later down the road when the first set wears and I have a lift going. (or am I way off base here?) I know it will be more $$$ but assuming $$$ isn't the issue just functionality for the moment :D

I'm resisting the urge to learn more about JKU's ! LOL!

kjeeper10 01-27-2012 09:45 PM

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Originally Posted by flyinion
Ok just for the heck of it, if I was to go with 16's what width can I fit on those without rubbing? I know kbwwolf run's 16's and I like the way those look, but I'm sure I wouldn't be able to run whatever width he is until I get a lift. At least if I get one set of wheels/tires in 16's I can always put a wider tire on later down the road when the first set wears and I have a lift going. (or am I way off base here?) I know it will be more $$$ but assuming $$$ isn't the issue just functionality for the moment :D

33x12.5 is what's mentioned.

I believe you want a 8" rim.

KB is running 35's

Here is the tire chart. You want a 305x70x16

kbwwolf 01-27-2012 10:16 PM

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Originally Posted by bobthetj03 (Post 1968523)
I'm resisting the urge to learn more about JKU's ! LOL!

Gives new meaning to the phrase "drive-thru banking." :thumb:

flyinion 01-27-2012 10:25 PM

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Originally Posted by kjeeper10 (Post 1968545)
33x12.5 is what's mentioned.

I believe you want a 8" rim.

KB is running 35's

Here is the tire chart. You want a 305x70x16

Thanks again. Wow I guessed right on the size then :rofl: Ok well I think I'm good and have it figured out. So if the 33x12.5x15 or equivalent size won't rub on non-lifted JKU then I should be set. I'll just buy a wheel/tire package instead of doing tires then new wheels and tires later on.

TommyT 01-28-2012 11:40 AM

:popcorn:Exactly what I suggested in post #2!!!!!

kbwwolf 01-28-2012 02:35 PM

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Originally Posted by TommyT (Post 1969655)
:popcorn:Exactly what I suggested in post #2!!!!!

Some peeps take the long way to get there. :D

flyinion 01-28-2012 02:46 PM

Lol, yeah I guess I did. What I meant in my last post though was that it looks like I can go with any equivalent size to that and be good. Meaning I might go with the 305/70/16's instead of 33x12.5x15 setup.

kbwwolf 01-28-2012 04:01 PM

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Originally Posted by flyinion (Post 1970043)
Lol, yeah I guess I did. What I meant in my last post though was that it looks like I can go with any equivalent size to that and be good. Meaning I might go with the 305/70/16's instead of 33x12.5x15 setup.

Just crackin on ya...:thumb:

flyinion 01-29-2012 04:03 AM

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Originally Posted by kbwwolf (Post 1970229)
Just crackin on ya...:thumb:

LOL np. Ok so now I have a new question especially since you recommended the 8" width wheels. I was reading through ESP's post and around page 6 someone said "if you aren't going off road go with the recommended width for the tire which would be 10" but if you are going off road go 2" smaller to an 8" wheel". What's the reasoning behind that? Is it just to protect the wheel by having the sidewalls bulge? Or does it provide some other benefit?

XJ Knight 01-29-2012 05:08 AM

15x8, 16x8, and 17x9's are recomended so you can air down with less chance of breaking a bead on the trail. If your not gonna offroad as long as the width of the tire is i would say safely 12.5in wide you can run a 10in wide rim.. Unless your running 40in or bigger tires 18 plus in rims are strongly recomended against no matter your use for your Jeep.

kbwwolf 01-29-2012 12:44 PM

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Originally Posted by flyinion (Post 1971928)
LOL np. Ok so now I have a new question especially since you recommended the 8" width wheels. I was reading through ESP's post and around page 6 someone said "if you aren't going off road go with the recommended width for the tire which would be 10" but if you are going off road go 2" smaller to an 8" wheel". What's the reasoning behind that? Is it just to protect the wheel by having the sidewalls bulge? Or does it provide some other benefit?

Go with the x8 sizes. That way, even if you don't PLAN on doing much offroading, you can go if you want, and not have to worry about avoiding mud, deep sand, etc.

I don't think too many folks go with 10" rims in the size tire you're looking at unless they really plan to run their rigs on-road only.

flyinion 01-29-2012 01:09 PM

Ah got it. Wow I would have thought it would be easier to pop a bead on a narrower wheel, shows how little I know lol. Anyway np I will definitely go with the 8 especially now that I know the reason.

JKralph 01-30-2012 05:25 PM

And for whatever it's worth, even though the width of the goodyear duratrac you're considering is 12.50, when you actually measure it mounted on a 15x8 wheel the width of the tire is slightly smaller, closer to 12 inches even. I have the MB72 and 33x12.50x15 goodyear duratrac combo on my sport, like the wrangler alluded to in post #3, and I love it :dance:

flyinion 02-03-2012 06:12 PM

Ok just to double check something here. With no lift, on a Sport with no swaybar disconnect installed, how likely am I to rub in an off road situation with either 305/70/16 or 285/75/16 assuming of course I have replaced my stock 17's with something like the MB72's with proper 4.5" or less backspacing?

I know there's the potential for increase tire height to hit somewhere but I guess what I'm more thinking of is probably not an off road specific issue now that I type it. I guess what I'm saying is I'm wondering if the 305 is too wide and might rub somewhere with the wheel all the way turned? So I'm wondering if I should go with the slightly narrower 285 to reduce that risk, or are they both going to be similar?

4fit 02-04-2012 07:52 AM

With correctly backspaced wheels, I think you would be fine with the 305s. If you rubbed anywhere at all, it would be the front plastic air dam. Easily trimmed or removed entirely. I know some folks have run the 305 without issue on stock wheels with spacers, which would make the overall backspace 4.75".

Offroad with no lift, you would probably get up into your fenders with either tire.

flyinion 02-28-2012 08:36 PM

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Originally Posted by 4fit (Post 1993127)

Offroad with no lift, you would probably get up into your fenders with either tire.

Hmmm, this is becoming more and more of a pain in the butt to figure out what I want to do. Having read a few comments around the forums the last few days about JK's being more capable stock than any other Wrangler due to increased stock ride height, wheel well size, etc. I'm still trying to see if I can get better set of tires without rubbing on or off-road and not needing to lift. Also I'm about to have quick disco's installed so I'll really have to watch it.

There seems to just be nearly nothing out there in a 32" tire :confused: About the closest I can get is say 265/75/16 or 265/70/17 both of which are smaller than the stock 32" by 1/2" or so. If a 33 is going to rub in the fenders especially disco'd then it almost seems like I'm forced to lift in order to get a decent tire. Pretty much the only other choice I've seen are these Hankook's Hankook DynaPro ATM RF10 tires - Reviews, ratings and specs in the Sacramento Area - Discount Tire/America's Tire or the GY Silent Armors Tire Details - Discount Tire

4fit 02-28-2012 09:11 PM

You can go with the discos and get some extended bumpstops to limit up-travel. But, at that point, might as well just go for a cheap spacer lift to give just that little bit of extra clearance. The Teraflex spacer leveling kit like I am running will set you back about $120 shipped and you can install it yourself very easily. This will give you 2 more inches in the front and 1 inch in the rear.
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