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Jsta 02-04-2012 01:18 PM

Smittybilt Rage!
 
I began the install of my new smittybilt SRC side armor today. I must say the chances I will every buy another smittybilt product are incredibly low.

4 hours later, with the help of a hydro jack, a crow bar, a drill, a dremel, and another person they are finally on! This was sapose to be a simple bolt on mod.

nothing lined up correctly on these things! it was a nightmare.:banghead:

Has anyone else had this much trouble with one of their products or did I just get the bad apple?

kbwwolf 02-04-2012 01:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Jsta (Post 1993831)
I began the install of my new smittybilt SRC side armor today. I must say the chances I will every buy another smittybilt product are incredibly low.

4 hours later, with the help of a hydro jack, a crow bar, a drill, a dremel, and another person they are finally on! This was sapose to be a simple bolt on mod.

nothing lined up correctly on these things! it was a nightmare.:banghead:

Has anyone else had this much trouble with one of their products or did I just get the bad apple?

Lol...they're ALL supposed to be simple bolt-on mods. :D

Mine was similar. My passenger side went on with just a single minor grinding session. The driver's side, however, took me several hours...I had to grind out two of the bolt holes with my Dremel, and grind down a too-fat weld on one of the mounting flanges with my 4.5" angle grinder.

I had no one to help me, and got mine on using a simple pneumatic work stool. Needless to say, it was a PITA.

But I knew it would be going into it, cuz I searched this and other forums before I ever spent the $$.

Initially, I was as pissed as you are...but in hindsight I don't mind a little sweat. They look good, IMO. :thumb:

Cigar196 02-04-2012 01:50 PM

Jsta, let me assure you that you were not alone here. I (eventually) put a set of these on my wife's 2dr and the install was a nightmare due to the same issues you had. Smittybuilt's mounting holes weren't even close to the factory mount points. I thought it was me, but have since learned this a very common issue with smittybuilt. I bought their xhd front bumper at the same time and had fitment issues too (but not nearly as bad). Once their products are on they have proven durable, but my JKU has a Rugged Ridge bumper and Rubi rails... I'm done with smittybuilt

MarineHawk 02-04-2012 01:54 PM

Mine was a big PITA! Or a least a bit tricky. Or so I hear. I was drinking coffee and smoking a cigar while it was being put on.

Jsta 02-04-2012 01:56 PM

Two hours into the install the guy helping me gave up and left lol, I had the first one on at that point, the other I did solo, and sure enough it took twice as much work to make it fit, but by that point I had a better understanding of what had to be done to make it fit.

I've mellowed out a little now after getting to look at them without the built up hatred and they do look nice :thumb:

I was thinking about getting a front bumper from them too, but I think Ill do some more research this time and find one that will be less of a hassle to put on.

kbwwolf 02-04-2012 02:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Jsta (Post 1993939)
Two hours into the install the guy helping me gave up and left lol, I had the first one on at that point, the other I did solo, and sure enough it took twice as much work to make it fit, but by that point I had a better understanding of what had to be done to make it fit.

I've mellowed out a little now after getting to look at them without the built up hatred and they do look nice :thumb:

I was thinking about getting a front bumper from them too, but I think Ill do some more research this time and find one that will be less of a hassle to put on.

Glad you've cooled down...I must admit, at one point during the height of cussing and grinding and cussing some more, I was worried that I might actually burst a blood vessel in my head and die of a stroke. :D

Got lucky and survived the ordeal.

kbwwolf 02-04-2012 02:04 PM

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Originally Posted by MarineHawk (Post 1993927)
Mine was a big PITA! Or a least a bit tricky. Or so I hear. I was drinking coffee and smoking a cigar while it was being put on.

Now THAT pisses me off! :flipoff:

MarineHawk 02-04-2012 02:19 PM

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Originally Posted by kbwwolf (Post 1993964)
Now THAT pisses me off! :flipoff:

I just had the lift installer do it while putting the lift on, which I wasn't going to do on my own Jeep for the first time.

kbwwolf 02-04-2012 02:22 PM

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Originally Posted by MarineHawk (Post 1993998)
I just had the lift installer do it while putting the lift on, which I wasn't going to do on my own Jeep for the first time.

You know I'm kidding.

I hope. :D

TreeClimber1 02-04-2012 02:27 PM

Poison Spyder :thumb:

Shittybuilt :rofl: (oops, I had a typo)

LilYeller 02-04-2012 02:32 PM

Sad to report I cant add to your rage (or maybe this does lol). Both my smittybilt bumpers went on without any issues. They went on so easy I had to make sure I did it right lol. This is only for my TJ tho I havent had any experience with their JK stuff. Hopefully, with time, they will get their isht together. Anyways wheres the pics?!?

MarineHawk 02-04-2012 02:37 PM

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Originally Posted by kbwwolf (Post 1994005)
You know I'm kidding.

I hope. :D

I know.

blkrubi88 02-04-2012 02:38 PM

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Originally Posted by LilYeller (Post 1994034)
Sad to report I cant add to your rage (or maybe this does lol). Both my smittybilt bumpers went on without any issues. They went on so easy I had to make sure I did it right lol. This is only for my TJ tho I havent had any experience with their JK stuff. Hopefully, with time, they will get their isht together. Anyways wheres the pics?!?

Same here, no issues with front and rear bumper or my sliders, all Smittybilt.

kbwwolf 02-04-2012 02:39 PM

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Originally Posted by TreeClimber1 (Post 1994020)
Poison Spyder :thumb:

Shittybuilt :rofl: (oops, I had a typo)

I have those all the time. They're fun. :thumb:

2011_Rubicon 02-04-2012 02:40 PM

I put mine on a couple of weeks ago and I can say for sure that it isn't "bolt on!" My passenger side wasn't too bad, just filed down one of the holes a bit. The driver side was horrible. Two of the pre-drilled holes were way off and it took a couple of hours to get it right and installed. After I opened the box to unwrap them, I had a bad feeling about quality when the sticker said "passengre side."

Cigar196 02-04-2012 02:46 PM

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Originally Posted by LilYeller
Sad to report I cant add to your rage (or maybe this does lol). Both my smittybilt bumpers went on without any issues. They went on so easy I had to make sure I did it right lol. This is only for my TJ tho I havent had any experience with their JK stuff. Hopefully, with time, they will get their isht together. Anyways wheres the pics?!?

Here's the pics to go with my earlier post

MarineHawk 02-04-2012 02:52 PM

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Originally Posted by 2011_Rubicon (Post 1994057)
I put mine on a couple of weeks ago and I can say for sure that it isn't "bolt on!" My passenger side wasn't too bad, just filed down one of the holes a bit. The driver side was horrible. Two of the pre-drilled holes were way off and it took a couple of hours to get it right and installed. After I opened the box to unwrap them, I had a bad feeling about quality when the sticker said "passengre side."

That's French for "passenger." It's pronounced "pah-zehn-jreh."

Jsta 02-04-2012 03:02 PM

I had that same feeling when I saw the "Made in China" sticker. I'll have some pics up soon, gotta dig out the camera.

desertgoose 02-04-2012 03:56 PM

I know someone with their front stubby bumper and he likes it, but he also had it installed for him.
I've had issues helping install a rear bumper w/carrier on a yj. Only half the bolts lined up with the bumper and he didn't want to drop gas tank to drill holes wider.

j0nx 02-05-2012 11:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Jsta (Post 1994125)
I had that same feeling when I saw the "Made in China" sticker. I'll have some pics up soon, gotta dig out the camera.

And therein lies the real problem. Anything made there is junk and in the end will prove to be unreliable at best and deadly at worst.

Jervboy 05-30-2012 05:29 PM

Mine went on OK. Drill out two holed and grind down two welds. Those jigs have to be pretty precise to get it perfect, the welds themselves are not bad. I didn't think it was a big deal to grind down a couple of fat welds to fit it on, especially since I was expecting the absolute worst having read this thread. As KB has put it before, the end product is what I am happy with and these things are very functional, they protect and look great. What more could you ask for?
I guess you could ask for it to fit on right out of the box, my bad.

dkeven 05-30-2012 05:44 PM

I'm thinking its the jeeps that are not exactly spot on, or I got lucky. On my 4dr I installed the src side armor and ended up not thinking it would withstand a real world test, took it off and installed the xrc side armor which bolts up in several places and is a much tougher product. Both went on without any grinding or trouble, needed a slimline socket to tighten the src up, the xrc went on with no issues at all. Both installs done solo in my driveway. Although I must admit to being a bit of a tool freak and have pretty much every wrench, socket, and tool known to the free world. even have my first socket sets (SK) from back in 1969

mcdull 05-30-2012 05:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Jsta (Post 1994125)
I had that same feeling when I saw the "Made in China" sticker. I'll have some pics up soon, gotta dig out the camera.

The problem is not "Made In China", it's Smittybilt's quality control.
They should have checked if the holes are in the right places, especially after so many compliants I've read here, and reject the shipment if they're not qualified.

A few of my friends do material and product sourcing, they have facotry connection in China and other countries to supply materials or make products for clients in other countries. They said the clients in Japan are the hardest to deal with as they would examine the products and rejected if they found quality problems.

So, it doesn't matter where the product was made, it is the responsiblity of the company to make sure the products they sell are up to the quality.

Jervboy 05-30-2012 06:00 PM

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Originally Posted by dkeven (Post 2419357)
I'm thinking its the jeeps that are not exactly spot on, or I got lucky. On my 4dr I installed the src side armor and ended up not thinking it would withstand a real world test, took it off and installed the xrc side armor which bolts up in several places and is a much tougher product. Both went on without any grinding or trouble, needed a slimline socket to tighten the src up, the xrc went on with no issues at all. Both installs done solo in my driveway. Although I must admit to being a bit of a tool freak and have pretty much every wrench, socket, and tool known to the free world. even have my first socket sets (SK) from back in 1969

I had a small issue getting to the one bolt around that large washer on the frame mount. The slimline socket I tried wouldn't even fit. I used a short socket, held it in place and then slipped the extension on it, it just fit! Makes you feel like a genious when you solve small problems and issues. I kind of look forward to encountering certain problems so I can execute some mechanical enginuity. That is unless I get frustrated and throw my tools down the driveway!

Jervboy 05-30-2012 06:01 PM

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Originally Posted by mcdull (Post 2419361)
The problem is not "Made In China", it's Smittybilt's quality control.
They should have checked if the holes are in the right places, especially after so many compliants I've read here, and reject the shipment if they're not qualified.

A few of my friends do material and product sourcing, they have facotry connection in China and other countries to supply materials or make products for clients in other countries. They said the clients in Japan are the hardest to deal with as they would examine the products and rejected if they found quality problems.

So, it doesn't matter where the product was made, it is the responsiblity of the company to make sure the products they sell are up to the quality.

Right on! I even e-mailed Smittybilt and made a complaint about this issue with quality control but no response!

mxman122 05-30-2012 06:23 PM

I'm no fan of there's either. I bout there soft boot top cover for the 2012 JKU. Web site says it fits, box says the correct model but no way it fits. After being on hold with there customer service for 20 min I'm told it won't fit the 2012 and I should return it. FYI, they would not credit me the shipping cost. They just lost a customer.

OkcWrangler 05-30-2012 06:38 PM

When I installed my Smittybilt front bumper with Smittybilt winch, the winch holes didn't line up with the bumper holes. I had to "customize" it to make it work. I was cursing the entire time because you would think a Smittybilt bumper and winch would be made to go right together right? Nope.

jsmithtx 05-30-2012 10:21 PM

Have not read anything positive on installing their products. Have read the reviews here and thats enough for me. Think I'll spend a little more money for a better product.

Jervboy 05-31-2012 04:39 AM

This is a little funny. Everyone calls them "Shittybilt", my iPhone spell check changed it to "Smutty Bolt!"


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