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mcpheron24 02-14-2012 05:41 PM

clear 33"s
 
what is the smallest lift i can put on my tj to clear 33" tires ?

Curro 02-14-2012 06:40 PM

4" spring

..or you can do a 2- 2.5" spring lift, highline type fenders and some quarter panel opening mods :D

Duramaxxed 02-14-2012 06:43 PM

2" bb.

UnlimitedLJ04 02-14-2012 06:54 PM

33's are fit in two common ways on TJ's:

1. 4" suspension lift, with 2" bumpstop extensions in front and 2-2.5" in the rear. Requires a SYE/CV shaft.
2. 2.5" suspension lift, with a 1.25" body lift, with 1-1.25" bumpstop extensions in front and 1.25-1.5" in the rear. The 1.25" BL usually accompanies a 1" Motor Mount Lift to offset some of the driveline angles.

Either way you go, figure on some or many of the following components: longer front brake lines, extended sway bar links front and rear, gears, brake and steering upgrades to accommodate larger tires, SYE, CV shaft, bumpstop extensions, new shocks, adjustable track bars, and a rear track bar bracket.

The Korean 02-14-2012 07:14 PM

You can't just do a 3" suspension lift with different fenders?

mcpheron24 02-14-2012 07:26 PM

im running 31-10.50-15 right now so couldnt i just use spring spacers ?

Megadethx 02-14-2012 09:49 PM

What kind of wheeling are you planning to do? You won't have to do too much to fit 33s if you are mainly highway and mall crawling. If you are going to be doing serious wheeling, then you need to get a lift that allows for 33s and gives you ample articulation.

OKLAHOMA_TJ 02-14-2012 10:14 PM

3" suspension lift worked fine for me. Stock flares

G54 02-14-2012 10:14 PM

I'm taking a different approach to fitting 33x10.50s on black steelies with 4" BS on my TJ this time. I'm going with a 1.25" BL/MML - a 3/4" puck on the front springs (my old stock LJ springs) and MCE flat fenders. (1.25" + 3/4" = 2" then MCE flatties add an estimated 2" more clearance = 4".) In the rear I will lose the flare and possibly inner well and trim a little. Extend the bumpstops just enough to keep up travel out of the fenders. Idea is a low center of gravity build. I have discussed this plan with quite a few people who know their stuff and nobody has told me it won't work. It won't flex as much as a suspension lift though. I just want to be different and see if it works. If not I can throw on some 2" lift springs. Also instead of the MCE fenders the Metalcloak Overline or Arched fenders will clear 33s without any lift at all. But I want the BL for a belly up skid later.

On my old LJ I fit 33s easily with a 2" spring lift and 1.25" bl/mml and slight trimming of the flares. I extended the bump stops slightly by gluing hockey pucks to the spring perches. Never rubbed at all even discoed and fully flexed.

http://i732.photobucket.com/albums/w...0/IMG_1980.jpg
http://i732.photobucket.com/albums/w...0/IMG_1979.jpg

I know it looks like I rub but it wasn't. They are stuffed and never damaged the flares.

JDintheTJ 02-14-2012 10:34 PM

Like megadthx said it depends on what you do with your jeep. You could get away with 2-2.5 inches of lift and 33s but you will rub when you flex, but if your jeep is mainly used for around town and on the road you should never rub because you won't be flexing. 3-4 inches would allow for more flex/ less rubbing and in my opinion would look better.

Neil F. 02-15-2012 05:20 AM

When I got mine it had a 2" BL and 6" Bushwhacker pocket flares. I left it that way for two years. No rubbing or issues on mild trails. I have since added a 2" BDS spring lift.

mcpheron24 02-15-2012 06:01 AM

Well thanks for all the input guys I think I'm gonna go with a 4" lift after rethinking what I wanna be able to do

TheTJRod 02-15-2012 11:55 AM

Remember that with 4" suspension lift you will most likely need an SYE and new driveshaft. Another $500 easy.

Will George 02-15-2012 08:45 PM

I'm planning on stepping up from 32s to 33s soon as my 32s are worn to shreds... will 33s run on 17inch alloy wheels? also do i have to regear? I'm gonna cut my fenders myself probably, not worth spending a couple hundo on flat fenders.

Will George 02-15-2012 08:46 PM

sorry, i have a 4inch lift on 5 speed manual sport. stock gears currently i think... just bought in august.

Creepy Crawler 02-15-2012 09:01 PM

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I'm running 33s with a zone 3" lift.. I don't rub and I have the front sway bar disconnected at the moment. :thumb:

-ShockWave- 02-15-2012 09:33 PM

http://i1136.photobucket.com/albums/.../jeepmeme1.jpg

siafu 02-15-2012 10:16 PM

That's a good looking jeep right there. That's quite a bit of weight on that front wheel they used to balance it. You would think there is a point when you just pop the tire back off and try again.

blue6tj 02-15-2012 10:27 PM

if you already run 31's and you want to go to 33's just get Flat Style Fenders. But you have to watch your width. Thats where it will bite you in the ass... your jeep prob came with 30x9.5 tires so if you go to 33x 10.5 you should be ok (with flat style fenders)... Or do a 1" - 1.5" BL... Or just stop by your local Lifting Shop and ask them... They will know for sure.

-ShockWave- 02-16-2012 09:54 AM

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Originally Posted by siafu (Post 2036676)
That's a good looking jeep right there. That's quite a bit of weight on that front wheel they used to balance it. You would think there is a point when you just pop the tire back off and try again.

Exactly lol

R-Sticker 05-17-2012 07:39 PM

To fit 33" tires, I would either do a 3" kit or do 2" springs with a 1.25" BL/1" MML...

relwell 05-17-2012 07:44 PM

I run 33's with a 2" RE BB and a 1.25" JKS BL. I wheel and have minimal rub. Now that I am starting over I will do it different, but that isn't what you asked. A BB using stock shocks will stuff them. Consider new shocks if you BL as well. As R-Sticker said a MMl would be a good idea while you're in there instead of finding out a week later it was a good idea.

G54 05-18-2012 12:18 PM

OK since I last posted in this thread I have finished the suspension portion of my build. Some of you already know what I did, but for this thread I will review. NO suspension lift except a 3/4" spacer on the front springs. I replaced the sagging TJ springs with stock LJ springs. Skyjacker shocks for 0" lift. No bumpstop alteration. JKS 1.25" BL. No fender flares and modified the stock front fender into a flattie. 33x10.50 BFG KM2s. Here it is discoed on an RTI ramp. No rubbing at all and bumpstops hitting. It isn't the best flex I know, but not too bad for stock. Just wanted to prove that you do NOT neccessarily need 3 to 4" of lift to fit 33s. More pics on my build thread.

http://i732.photobucket.com/albums/w...d/DSCF0134.jpg
http://i732.photobucket.com/albums/w...d/DSCF0127.jpg
http://i732.photobucket.com/albums/w...d/DSCF0130.jpg

KBR97 05-18-2012 04:13 PM

Like Gus shows above me with his pictures....its all about what direction you want to take with your jeep and what your willing to do or not do. There are guys that will swear up and down you need a minimum of 4 " lift with a body lift and a sye and new driveshaft, and track bar and yada yada....which is one way to do it.
Then some people figure hey, I have a sawzall and a grinder...who needs a new lift?
There are many different ways to accommodate larger tires.

Some people will rant that 31's are MAX for a stock wrangler.
I ran 32 11.50's on complete stock suspension with stock flares for over a year before I touched anything on my Jeep.

Right now I'm on 35s with 4" of lift and would like to actually lower it to about 2-2.5"

G54 05-19-2012 12:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KBR97 (Post 2381943)
Like Gus shows above me with his pictures....its all about what direction you want to take with your jeep and what your willing to do or not do. There are guys that will swear up and down you need a minimum of 4 " lift with a body lift and a sye and new driveshaft, and track bar and yada yada....which is one way to do it.
Then some people figure hey, I have a sawzall and a grinder...who needs a new lift?
There are many different ways to accommodate larger tires.

Some people will rant that 31's are MAX for a stock wrangler.
I ran 32 11.50's on complete stock suspension with stock flares for over a year before I touched anything on my Jeep.

Right now I'm on 35s with 4" of lift and would like to actually lower it to about 2-2.5"

Sounds like a good idea. I'm not ruling out the possibility that in the future I might go with a 2.5" OME SL and then should have plenty of room for 35s.

KBR97 05-19-2012 07:16 PM

yup, 2.5 OME is what I'm planning too :thumb:

Rayko 05-20-2012 07:28 AM

I'm running 33x12.5 on 15" Procomp rims with 2" OME springs and shocks. I do mild off roading, sand and mud. Don't have any problems.
I still need to do the front trac bar. It'll be a Curry.

TnDz TJ 05-20-2012 08:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gus54 (Post 2381335)
OK since I last posted in this thread I have finished the suspension portion of my build. Some of you already know what I did, but for this thread I will review. NO suspension lift except a 3/4" spacer on the front springs. I replaced the sagging TJ springs with stock LJ springs. Skyjacker shocks for 0" lift. No bumpstop alteration. JKS 1.25" BL. No fender flares and modified the stock front fender into a flattie. 33x10.50 BFG KM2s. Here it is discoed on an RTI ramp. No rubbing at all and bumpstops hitting. It isn't the best flex I know, but not too bad for stock. Just wanted to prove that you do NOT neccessarily need 3 to 4" of lift to fit 33s. More pics on my build thread.

http://i732.photobucket.com/albums/w...d/DSCF0134.jpg
http://i732.photobucket.com/albums/w...d/DSCF0127.jpg
http://i732.photobucket.com/albums/w...d/DSCF0130.jpg


Looks great!!!! you have done a great job on your Jeep!!!

Do me a favor.....

Put your Jeep up that ramp until you pull that left rear tire off the ground by about an inch or so....that will be full flex..... then take pics at the stuffed corners.. I am curious....



Seriously guys.... not being a smart@$$... it's hard for me to imagine 35's on a 4" lift that does rub..... SERIOUSLY!?!?!? I'm talking NO HACKIN UP THE BODY here... just running a lift

The questions come to mind....

Does it ever see the trail where off camber is the nature of the beast?
Does it get flex other than the occasional speed bump at the mall?

I mean.... I wheel just about every weekend and I was surprised to find out that my 4" lift with 33's and 15x8's with 3.75" BS and 2" bumpstops was NOT enough to keep from mangling my fenders under flex.

This shot I'm touching the inside lip of the flare just below the METAL OF THE FENDER.. and I still had the bumpstop to compress.

http://cdn.wranglerforum.com/attachm.../3/flex007.jpg

HEre is the other side... same thing.... but showing the bumpstop...
http://cdn.wranglerforum.com/attachm.../3/flex003.jpg

I had to add another .75" of bumpstop extension to save my metal.... I have since fixed the buckle in both fenders and replaced my mangled flares.


All I am saying is.... the size of tire you use with the amount of lift you use is ALL DEPENDANT on what you use it for.....

If you mall crawl.... 2" lift and 35's may work for you...

If you like seeing the twisted/ off-camber side of things.... 4" lift and 33's with proper bumpstops might be the way to go.... for me.... 4" lift and 1" BL and 33's is what I will have.... I don't like to rub anything under full flex....

KBR97 05-20-2012 09:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TnDz TJ (Post 2386229)

All I am saying is.... the size of tire you use with the amount of lift you use is ALL DEPENDANT on what you use it for.....

Not exactly..its all dependent on how you build it.

UnlimitedLJ04 05-20-2012 09:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KBR97 (Post 2386350)
Not exactly..its all dependent on how you build it.

x2...whether your rig is mudding or rock crawling, if your junk doesn't work at full bump & full flex, the problems are the same.


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