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sdgmcdon 02-15-2012 06:57 PM

Hard Top Pulley and Storage System?
 
I need to get something to remove and store my hard top with on a 4 door jk, I found these but wanted to get opinions on these two and if there's another I should consider?

http://www.jeeptopdepot.com/productdetails.aspx?jeep-sid=473&plID=755&partID=3331

http://www.quadratec.com/products/12020_07_07.htm

Also, wondering how difficult this thing is to install, needless to say if installed incorrectly I could completely wreck the top and the jeep in the garage under it. I would like to do it myself and though my "DIY" skills aren't horrible, they aren't that great either.

Any input is greatly appreciated!

cavsvet74 02-15-2012 07:01 PM

Costco - Racor Ceiling Storage Lift

Beat ya to it Jimbo.:thumb:

Works great. Just need to figure a strap system to attach the top to the lift.

Hardcore4x4 02-15-2012 07:04 PM

I put mine together for like 46 bucks and it works great. Basically it's a 2x4 cut up into 4 parts, screws, 800lb loop clamps and 4 ratchet straps. I'll go take some pictures and post em. It works great and it's cheap.

the Kolector 02-15-2012 07:06 PM

I am about to order the Harkin Hoister for mine, heard some pretty good things about it.

Harken Hoister 7803B - Harken Hoister Garage Storage 4-Point Lift System for Jeep® Hardtops & Recreational Equipment - Quadratec

JIMBOX 02-15-2012 07:11 PM

:thumb: heh Heh, Curses, foiled again--good move though cavsvet-


Quote:

Originally Posted by cavsvet74 (Post 2035571)
Costco - Racor Ceiling Storage Lift

Beat ya to it Jimbo.:thumb:

Works great. Just need to figure a strap system to attach the top to the lift.

Just remember to use the platform supplied with the RACOR and JUDGE YOUR BALANCE POINTS, FOR THE STRAPS-

The RACOR hoist is a real boone for hardtop removal and available for usually $100 bucks-costco/ebay/amazon

Checkitout-

:dance::rofl: JIMBO

cavsvet74 02-15-2012 07:12 PM

Harken does make quality hardware.

Hardcore4x4 02-15-2012 07:27 PM

Budget friendly Jeep top removal and storage
 
Here ya go. Like I said, about $46. I'd rather spend the other money on the Jeep. :dance:

The top removed: http://i195.photobucket.com/albums/z...7-30133723.jpg

4 straps: http://i195.photobucket.com/albums/z...2-15180702.jpg

Clamp closeup: http://i195.photobucket.com/albums/z...2-15180647.jpg

Clamp and strap: http://i195.photobucket.com/albums/z...2-15180638.jpg

sdgmcdon 02-15-2012 07:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cavsvet74 (Post 2035571)
Costco - Racor Ceiling Storage Lift

Beat ya to it Jimbo.:thumb:

Works great. Just need to figure a strap system to attach the top to the lift.

Ok, stupid question time...Do you just place that rack that shows the stuff sitting on it inside the hard top, under it, then run the supporting cables out the back and sides?

sdgmcdon 02-15-2012 08:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by the Kolector (Post 2035587)
I am about to order the Harkin Hoister for mine, heard some pretty good things about it.

Harken Hoister 7803B - Harken Hoister Garage Storage 4-Point Lift System for Jeep® Hardtops & Recreational Equipment - Quadratec

This looks good, about what I'm looking for actually...Only concern is max load is 145lbs and I've seen some (given *estimates*) suggesting the hard top on the 4 door weighs 150lbs...My jeep will be parked right under it so I am concerned about it holding it's limit for a few months straight...?

JIMBOX 02-15-2012 08:08 PM

:whistling: NOPE, you attach the platform to the bottom of the (4) cables/hooks and then either use "J" hooks if you have a rack (I do) or use the hooks and run straps either across, or longitudinal to support the hardtop-


Quote:

Originally Posted by sdgmcdon (Post 2035924)
Ok, stupid question time...Do you just place that rack that shows the stuff sitting on it inside the hard top, under it, then run the supporting cables out the back and sides?

Then you can use the platform to store camping stuff/fishing stuff/volkswagens--whatever-

http://i294.photobucket.com/albums/m...mbowby/023.jpg

:dance::rofl: JIMBO

theStickbug 02-15-2012 08:10 PM

I have the harken hoist and love it.

From what I've read the 4 door hard top is only like 96 lbs. it's more cumbersome than heavy.

I've left my top off for two weeks and the Jeep is safe parked under it. If installed correctly the harken hoist is SOLID.

sdgmcdon 02-15-2012 08:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by theStickbug (Post 2035990)
I have the harken hoist and love it.

From what I've read the 4 door hard top is only like 96 lbs. it's more cumbersome than heavy.

I've left my top off for two weeks and the Jeep is safe parked under it. If installed correctly the harken hoist is SOLID.

Mine will be up there for 3-4 MONTHS, that's what I'm worried about, but I think I'll likely go harken for this and then maybe also do the other one suggested in here from costco for storing seasonal stuff for camping etc.

sdgmcdon 02-15-2012 08:28 PM

Harken Hoist a top ordered...thanks!

the Kolector 02-15-2012 08:29 PM

I am going to use the Harken for the "warm" duration and just get a Bikini Top to have during the season, hard top would only be on for extended rain days and winter.

IowaRaider 02-15-2012 09:49 PM

I have the Harken, here it is doing winter duty. With soft top, lawn chairs and other outside junk. I have the green ropes as backups and the most important backup is the Jeep is parked in the other stall:punk:


http://i1116.photobucket.com/albums/...r/IMG_0064.jpg

sdgmcdon 02-16-2012 06:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by IowaRaider (Post 2036564)
I have the Harken, here it is doing winter duty. With soft top, lawn chairs and other outside junk. I have the green ropes as backups and the most important backup is the Jeep is parked in the other stall:punk:

I unfortunately don't have that "backup" of the jeep in the other stall, 2 car garage but the way it's used/configured the hard top will be hanging right above the jeep the entire summer :-(

...Makes me nervous.

strider_mt2k 02-16-2012 06:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JIMBOX (Post 2035973)
:whistling: NOPE, you attach the platform to the bottom of the (4) cables/hooks and then either use "J" hooks if you have a rack (I do) or use the hooks and run straps either across, or longitudinal to support the hardtop-




Then you can use the platform to store camping stuff/fishing stuff/volkswagens--whatever-

http://i294.photobucket.com/albums/m...mbowby/023.jpg

:dance::rofl: JIMBO

(totally OT and I apologize, but...)
Dude, what are you, like G.I. freaking Joe? The boat rocks!
You got everything a boy adventurer of any age could need except maybe a jetpack!

OK, show of hands, who would buy the Jimbo playset? Seriously.

JIMBOX 02-16-2012 07:06 PM

:D Heh Heh, now that cracks me up strider-

Just remember, I've been doing this a very long time and when I wasn't BUSY on a sub-I was playing in the Sierras-

Ya gotta realize, I've been retired over 19 years and everything I've got is paid for--cept insurance and property tax's-

I'm always on vacation, untill my wife gives me a "HONEYDO" order-which is often !

Ain't jeepin a "HOOT"

:dance::rofl: JIMBO

kjeeper10 02-16-2012 07:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by strider_mt2k

(totally OT and I apologize, but...)
Dude, what are you, like G.I. freaking Joe? The boat rocks!
You got everything a boy adventurer of any age could need except maybe a jetpack!

OK, show of hands, who would buy the Jimbo playset? Seriously.

:wavey:

cavsvet74 02-16-2012 09:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by strider_mt2k (Post 2039698)
except maybe a jetpack!

Just because you don't see it, doesn't mean he doesn't have it.:rolleyes:

JIMBOX 02-16-2012 09:13 PM

:D I'm not gonna tell you the story behind this--

http://i294.photobucket.com/albums/m...torcockpit.jpg

I mean--somethings are "Sacred"

:dance::rofl: JIMBO

schirmyver 02-17-2012 06:58 AM

So I was all set to design and build my own hoist but then you have to go and show us that Racor system ;). That is pretty nice. I do have a couple questions and I am hoping you guys can give me some advice.

-All of the hoists I have seen use hooks to grab the top at the front corners and by the rear window. To me this seems like a lot of weight being focused on 3 or 4 very small/thin areas. I was thinking about making four large flat hooks out of some 4" wide steel flat stock and then lifting by the bottom of the top only. I would make four hooks, so one for each corner. For added security I was going to drill a hole in the middle of the flat area of the hook so I could drop the bolt through the top and hook so it could not slide around. Does this sound like a good idea or am I over engineering this? Do you think it will be balanced by lifting only by the bottom? The front section would not have any support, but the rear window adds a lot of weight to move the center of gravity towards the rear.

-Regarding the rear window, I really do not like the idea of the rear window being left in the up position kind of flopping around while it is being stored. Since I will be lifting from the bottom and not around the rear window frame is there any other reason to leave the window up? I will have to come up with a way to secure the window down so it does not pop up unexpectedly and hit something.

-This last question, I am pretty sure I am over designing this but I will ask anyways. Since I will be lifting from the bottom, gravity will want to push the hooks outward basically pulling the bottom sides outward. To counter this I was going to cut another couple of pieces of bar stock to be the same width of the Jeep and secure them under the hard top between the hooks using the bolt holes. Do you think this is needed?

Thanks and once I complete the project I will post pictures, unless you guys convince me I am nuts and I just go with one of these existing solutions.

JIMBOX 02-17-2012 08:53 AM

:D Good logical and well thoughtout questions, but


Quote:

Originally Posted by schirmyver (Post 2041214)
So I was all set to design and build my own hoist but then you have to go and show us that Racor system ;). That is pretty nice. I do have a couple questions and I am hoping you guys can give me some advice.

-All of the hoists I have seen use hooks to grab the top at the front corners and by the rear window. To me this seems like a lot of weight being focused on 3 or 4 very small/thin areas. I was thinking about making four large flat hooks out of some 4" wide steel flat stock and then lifting by the bottom of the top only. I would make four hooks, so one for each corner. For added security I was going to drill a hole in the middle of the flat area of the hook so I could drop the bolt through the top and hook so it could not slide around. Does this sound like a good idea or am I over engineering this? Do you think it will be balanced by lifting only by the bottom? The front section would not have any support, but the rear window adds a lot of weight to move the center of gravity towards the rear.

-Regarding the rear window, I really do not like the idea of the rear window being left in the up position kind of flopping around while it is being stored. Since I will be lifting from the bottom and not around the rear window frame is there any other reason to leave the window up? I will have to come up with a way to secure the window down so it does not pop up unexpectedly and hit something.

-This last question, I am pretty sure I am over designing this but I will ask anyways. Since I will be lifting from the bottom, gravity will want to push the hooks outward basically pulling the bottom sides outward. To counter this I was going to cut another couple of pieces of bar stock to be the same width of the Jeep and secure them under the hard top between the hooks using the bolt holes. Do you think this is needed?

Thanks and once I complete the project I will post pictures, unless you guys convince me I am nuts and I just go with one of these existing solutions.

I just use my MBRP Rack and vinyl covered hooks--

There are several guys on this forum that use the RACOR and have STRAPING setups that balance and distribute the weight pretty good-they might post pretty soon-google Jeep Racor Rack setup and see if you get some ideas-

Good luck

:dance::rofl: JIMBO

cavsvet74 02-17-2012 07:29 PM

I bought a set of gutter straps. They're for attaching roof racks and such to a vehicle with the steel seam gutters. Added to a strap with a hook and a buckle to adjust the length.
http://i1111.photobucket.com/albums/...t74/hoist1.jpg

As far as keeping the rear window closed, a 5' piece of pvc pipe with a hook in the middle works great.
http://i1111.photobucket.com/albums/...eper2-Copy.jpg

JeffC 02-17-2012 11:12 PM

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This is what I did with mine. Now I need to work on the wife's holiday wreath storage system :banghead:

tribangle 02-19-2012 05:02 PM

Racor is at the top of my list

X50ARM 02-19-2012 06:41 PM

I made mine out of two pieces of 1/2" black pipe with a pool noodle slid over them. The ropes go through the pipes and up through the pulleys to a worm drive hand winch. I just use my drill on the winch to lower the pipes down on the hardtop and run ratchet straps through the hardtop and over the pipes. Less than $100 and works good. :)

sdgmcdon 02-29-2012 12:03 AM

got the harken hoister and installed today...works well...I considered doing a cheaper DIY system and probably cuould have for about the same money though as i require the pulley system to get it to the top ceiling in garage (20 feet or so) which stores it above the open garage door...

Thanks for all the suggestions!

Cosmic Charlie 02-29-2012 06:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by schirmyver (Post 2041214)
So I was all set to design and build my own hoist but then you have to go and show us that Racor system ;). That is pretty nice. I do have a couple questions and I am hoping you guys can give me some advice.

-All of the hoists I have seen use hooks to grab the top at the front corners and by the rear window. To me this seems like a lot of weight being focused on 3 or 4 very small/thin areas. I was thinking about making four large flat hooks out of some 4" wide steel flat stock and then lifting by the bottom of the top only. I would make four hooks, so one for each corner. For added security I was going to drill a hole in the middle of the flat area of the hook so I could drop the bolt through the top and hook so it could not slide around. Does this sound like a good idea or am I over engineering this? Do you think it will be balanced by lifting only by the bottom? The front section would not have any support, but the rear window adds a lot of weight to move the center of gravity towards the rear.

-Regarding the rear window, I really do not like the idea of the rear window being left in the up position kind of flopping around while it is being stored. Since I will be lifting from the bottom and not around the rear window frame is there any other reason to leave the window up? I will have to come up with a way to secure the window down so it does not pop up unexpectedly and hit something.

-This last question, I am pretty sure I am over designing this but I will ask anyways. Since I will be lifting from the bottom, gravity will want to push the hooks outward basically pulling the bottom sides outward. To counter this I was going to cut another couple of pieces of bar stock to be the same width of the Jeep and secure them under the hard top between the hooks using the bolt holes. Do you think this is needed?

Thanks and once I complete the project I will post pictures, unless you guys convince me I am nuts and I just go with one of these existing solutions.


In this thread, ZOMBIE shows lots of pics of how he attaches the hardtop to the bottom of the Racor using straps: http://www.wranglerforum.com/f33/jus...top-74362.html

I found it helpful. Hope you do, too.

Phishe 03-09-2012 07:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by the Kolector
I am about to order the Harkin Hoister for mine, heard some pretty good things about it.

Harken Hoister 7803B - Harken Hoister Garage Storage 4-Point Lift System for Jeep® Hardtops & Recreational Equipment - Quadratec

I just ordered this myself. Can't wait to start taking the top off all the time!


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