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Diver69 02-23-2012 02:42 AM

Front passanger side U-Joint replacement?
 
Hi All,

(Sorry forgot model; 1989, YJ 2.5i with manual gearb.)

Sorry for my bad english, but I am from Sweden and dont know all the technical words in English.
Therefor its very difficult for me to make a good search. I guess this topic has been up several time.

I have replaced the front left U-joint, following instructions found here in the forum; Thanks:thumb:

But I also need to do it on the right side. Looking at the Haynes manual, they suggest that you must open the differential and remove something??? and also open the "vacum bell" (4wd) on the right side of the axle to remove something. Do I really need to follow the Haynes steps inorder to replace the U-Joint or is there anything easier???

I have a gasket for the vacum bell housing if I really need to open it, but do I also need a new gasket for the differential?

Thanks for any comments/answers

/Martin from Sweden

95YamJam 02-23-2012 05:49 AM

The hanes you have is the correct way. It is more difficult due to the central axel disconnect on the passenger side. the reason for opening up the differential is to be able to remove the axel from the housing by releasing the c clip. When you pull off the vacum unit on the axel you should be able to see what your dealing with. Watch the seals to make sure you don't mess them up.

Good luck, and i must say that your english and punctuation is better than most americans that i've seen.

:)

This is unrelated but please post some pictures from sweden. :)

Diver69 02-23-2012 06:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 95YamJam (Post 2065266)
The hanes you have is the correct way. It is more difficult due to the central axel disconnect on the passenger side. the reason for opening up the differential is to be able to remove the axel from the housing by releasing the c clip. When you pull off the vacum unit on the axel you should be able to see what your dealing with. Watch the seals to make sure you don't mess them up.

Good luck, and i must say that your english and punctuation is better than most americans that i've seen.

:)

This is unrelated but please post some pictures from sweden. :)


Thanks,
Now I know what to do!

I really appreciate that some one answers a question put in the forum.
I own a BMW X3 also and I have posted two threads in a BMW forum in Sweden and I see a lot of people are viewing the threads but no one is commenting and given an answer.
I went to a German forum (I am actually a German citient, living in Sweden) and posted the threads there and it didnt even pass one hour and I had answers on both threads.

So I really appreciate this.

What kind of pics do you want?
I dont have any with the Wrangler and the snow is gone so it looks like crap here right now:cool:

95YamJam 02-23-2012 07:44 AM

Even the BMWs would be great! I'm a car guy all the way around. Snow pics would be nice but any out door shots would be fantastic. I've always wanted to visit certain areas in europe and probably won't be able to for a while.

I am a first generation american in our family and hearing my father talk about some things is neat. Granted he went thru the war not coming to America until 52' and there was a lot of distruction but he still remembers some neat things.

I'm glad i helped some. Welcome to this forum.

Diver69 02-23-2012 10:08 AM

Thanks
 
ok. home from work!

Here are some pictures!

Again; Thanks for the help!!!

The Wrangler; Sorry bad angles but its standing until the weekend when its time to change the U-joint!

http://img814.imageshack.us/img814/1261/dscf0850p.jpg

http://img37.imageshack.us/img37/4360/dscf0851x.jpg

The BMW X3

http://img405.imageshack.us/img405/6579/dscf0849h.jpg

My diamond;
Porsche 924 Turbo from 1979 in mint condition.
Although it needs a wash, since I had it standing outside during my wrangler clutch release bearing replacement!
http://img843.imageshack.us/img843/6741/dscf0854r.jpg

My house
http://img192.imageshack.us/img192/3351/dscf0852h.jpg

And of course a part of the garage with small lathe, drilling machine, sand blaster box
http://img69.imageshack.us/img69/5492/dscf0856zh.jpg

95YamJam 02-23-2012 05:24 PM

Nice setup! I have a small toymakers lathe and mill at my house. They were very cheap chineese made machines but i have modded them a lot. :)

Awesome porsche too!
Do you auto cross it? Number B6 on the window......

Looks like you have some nice scenary as well.

That wrangler is also very clean!

Yjpower94 02-23-2012 07:20 PM

I have done quite a few on my jeeps and buddies jeeps. They were all 91 or newer but I didn't have to open anything up. Once you take you hub off the axle just slides out on both sides. My buddy told me I had to so as I was taking it apart he was pullin my cover he was about to start takin stuff apart and I was like dude it just slide out. I could be wrong yours may be different. Just my .02 cents haha.

Diver69 02-24-2012 01:42 AM

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Originally Posted by 95YamJam (Post 2067127)
Nice setup! I have a small toymakers lathe and mill at my house. They were very cheap chineese made machines but i have modded them a lot. :)

Awesome porsche too!
Do you auto cross it? Number B6 on the window......

Looks like you have some nice scenary as well.

That wrangler is also very clean!

WOW, Yeah I would like to have a milling machine also. Of course my lathe is to small. Cant even setup brake disc, but its better then nothing.
Bigger lathe are not only more costly, they take more space and are very heavy which makes the transportation and installation difficult.

I am a memeber in the Swedish Porsche Club and in the towns racing club. The Porsche club does rent racing tracks where the club "educates" drivers to handle their porsches. You are allowed to go as fast as you like but you are not allowed to do any competition or timing. Then you get banned!
My local club (All kind of racing cars) hosts competations, where they set up a track with cones and you need to drive the track as fast as possible witout hitting any cones. Normally you only come up to second gear. Thats the B6; Meaning Racing class B (Has to do with Weight/horsepower), car 6.

Diver69 02-24-2012 01:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Yjpower94 (Post 2067569)
I have done quite a few on my jeeps and buddies jeeps. They were all 91 or newer but I didn't have to open anything up. Once you take you hub off the axle just slides out on both sides. My buddy told me I had to so as I was taking it apart he was pullin my cover he was about to start takin stuff apart and I was like dude it just slide out. I could be wrong yours may be different. Just my .02 cents haha.

Yeah, I am not to sure. Hanyes says you need to remove a "c clip" in the diff. But I will change it this weekend and let you know!

Thanks!
/Martin

95YamJam 02-24-2012 06:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Diver69 (Post 2068762)
WOW, Yeah I would like to have a milling machine also. Of course my lathe is to small. Cant even setup brake disc, but its better then nothing.
Bigger lathe are not only more costly, they take more space and are very heavy which makes the transportation and installation difficult.

I am a memeber in the Swedish Porsche Club and in the towns racing club. The Porsche club does rent racing tracks where the club "educates" drivers to handle their porsches. You are allowed to go as fast as you like but you are not allowed to do any competition or timing. Then you get banned!
My local club (All kind of racing cars) hosts competations, where they set up a track with cones and you need to drive the track as fast as possible witout hitting any cones. Normally you only come up to second gear. Thats the B6; Meaning Racing class B (Has to do with Weight/horsepower), car 6.

Thats great. We have the Sports Car Club of America(SCCA) they hold sanctioned events(Auto cross) like you mentioned above. The nice thing is that you can compete in your stock ford or a full on race car or even a race cart. Very fun. I've run a few of my cars. I am kind of a Subaru junkie too.

I had a 350 awhp Wrx and also a 300 awhp Sti plus some other Subarus. I only have one now and it's a family hauler 02' Wrx wagon. :)

Yjpower94 02-24-2012 07:32 PM

Just try and slide them out before you mess with the diff. Let me know how you make out. Oh and make sure it's in 4wd for the collar on the right side or you'll have to pull that off.

Diver69 02-26-2012 03:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Yjpower94 (Post 2071246)
Just try and slide them out before you mess with the diff. Let me know how you make out. Oh and make sure it's in 4wd for the collar on the right side or you'll have to pull that off.

Learning by doing it wrong!!!

You where right (I think! I havent assembled everything back yet!!!), but I think you dont need to remove the c-clip. Probably you need to drain it on some oil. The axle is split at the vacum container, so it would probably been enough to just open it there and make sure everything comes back in place!!!

I will let you know one I am done!

Yjpower94 02-26-2012 07:31 AM

Good saved you some work haha if all the bolts and hub come out good it's not a bad job. Being from the northeast all of mine have been rusted in there.

Diver69 02-26-2012 08:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Yjpower94 (Post 2075564)
Good saved you some work haha if all the bolts and hub come out good it's not a bad job. Being from the northeast all of mine have been rusted in there.

Oh yeah:

They where rusty!!!!!:banghead:
I was banging and banging on them ;nothing!

I had to use the cutting machine (dont know the english word). had to cut the joint in all four ends! After that it went ok!

But the conclusion is; If you are lucky you dont have to remove anything, as on the left side! But it could be difficult to get it in place without seeing the shaft inside the vacum container. So I would always open that to see its in position. But the differential; NO, dont remove that C-clip! No use!!!!!

Any way; Back on track again. The joint was BAD. Even when steering now its feels easier!

Again all: Thank!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:flowers::):thumb:

correycinciyj 02-26-2012 01:23 PM

I just did this a few months back. Axle u joints, both driveshaft u joints and then the part im going to suggest to u which is the upper and lower ball joints. While u have everything apart you might as well.

Yjpower94 02-26-2012 07:07 PM

Glad to hear it went good

bruceandjo95yj 02-27-2012 07:15 AM

Guten tag Diver
Ich liebe ihren jeep sehr nett...Haus ist ebenso sehr nett

Hope I said it right..I have just started learning german:)

95YamJam 02-27-2012 09:21 PM

Glad it went well. I am sorry that I told you you had to remove the c clip in the diff. The last time I did one I had to replace the seals too so the whole axle had to come out.


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