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zrkst1 12-19-2007 10:08 PM

steel wheels
 
why are steel wheels so much cheaper?

also can i fit 31" wheels with a 10.5 width with out getting lift or anything on my stock 01 wrangler?

MCG 12-19-2007 10:13 PM

I will say because it's steel. nothing funcy with steel wheels.
and yes I'm pretty sure that you can fit 31" on 10.5 without lift.

zrkst1 12-19-2007 10:16 PM

the dealership i bought it off only has 15's with 27.7 inch tires....

would 31"s make that much of a difference in how tough and big it looks?


I feel like i'm in a regular car when i drive now

zrkst1 12-19-2007 10:38 PM

BUMP


how do i determine if these tires http://www.bfgoodrichtires.com/overv...t-a-ko/44.html


would fit on these wheels

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/15-8-...spagenameZWDVW

Scout 12-19-2007 10:48 PM

What size are the tires and what size are the wheels?

EDIT: I see the wheel size, what size tires are you wanting to run?

zrkst1 12-19-2007 11:12 PM

31"/10.5/15

(267/76/15)

will it fit with out a lift? and will the tire fit the wheel

AzTJ 12-19-2007 11:22 PM

Yes that size tire would fit on that wheel(ebay link).

zrkst1 12-19-2007 11:26 PM

k thanks...but at the same time i dont have the cash for a lift or anything yet.... i don't really do much offroading( the car is my daily driver)

will these tires and wheels fit with out a lift of any sort and have no rubbing or problems or anything?


and also is up'ing in tire size bad for the jeep?

MCG 12-19-2007 11:39 PM

31" its not that big .
I will say save some cash and then go 32" or 33" and a 2" BB.
after 31" you will want to go bigger & bigger.
one of the secrets in the Jeep world in order to have a nice Jeep will be have a lot of money or the 2nd choice.....be patient. don't get stuff jst to get it.

zrkst1 12-19-2007 11:46 PM

well the situation is that these are a present from my dad for my jeep for Christmas


i was gonna go 31" BFG A/T (31/10.5/15)

and i was gonna put them on a 15inch wheel...the one i listed above


am i able to do this with out having a lift just yet... i don't offroad...its strictly for looking tough and stuff..its my dd.

i plan on a lift in about 6 months

MCG 12-19-2007 11:50 PM

Well my friend everything that comes free its always welcome, I'm pretty sure that these wheels and tires will fit in your ride with no lift at all.
And please after yo get the gift istalled post some pics.....!!!!

zrkst1 12-19-2007 11:52 PM

i just wish i could find out more about whether its bad for the jeep or not...i dont want to have to make any modifications to like the speedometer or steering or anything like that

so i'm kinda worried

MCG 12-19-2007 11:57 PM

I just let you know that I have 30"x9.5 on my Jeep and its the stock size so I dont think a 1 " will be a big diference.
Also you are getting all terrain tires so its not bad at all.

Triple88a 12-20-2007 12:00 AM

if you just want small lift, you can put on a 1" BL... later if you want to run 33s, you can keep the bl and add a bb or 3" coil lift so the 1" BL wont come back to hunt you down but will give you 1" higher ride... If there is any rubbing w/ the 31s you can adjust the steering stops a notch which is easy to do.

zrkst1 12-20-2007 12:07 AM

its width of 10.5 i am worried about

and is this going to make my jeep look better for a start?

also is this bad for the vehicle?

MCG 12-20-2007 12:19 AM

Its not bad...and yes will look more agresive than it is right know.
Why you dont get the 15x8 wheels?
I think you can get these tires in.

zrkst1 12-20-2007 12:30 AM

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these are my tires and wheels now

Jonny15 12-20-2007 01:11 AM

31" tires are the biggest you can fit on a stock tj. I'd replace those 15x6 steel wheels you have on your jeep now though if you plan on running larger tires. The 15x8 black steelies you gave a link to would be a nice match to a 31x10.5x15 tire. You'll have no problems putting 31's on a stock jeep...the only thing you might have to do is adjust you're steering stops if the tires end up rubbing on the control arms and adjusting the steering stops is a very easy thing to do, it can be done in minutes.

As far as looks, its going to look MUCH better with 31's and different rims than the little stock 205's and 15x6 rims you have....not to mention the BFG AT is a terrific looking and performing tire (i've run them for the past couple years)

Just for a reference to get an idea of what your jeep might look similar too heres link to a jeep with 31's and stock suspension http://www.wayalife.com/wp-gallery2....&g2_itemId=167

By the way its not bad for your jeep at all to put larger tires on...the worst thats going to happen is that you lose a few mpg's but then again its a jeep, the already mpg's already suck as it is :cool:

Hope all this helped!!

Triple88a 12-20-2007 01:55 AM

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Originally Posted by zrkst1 (Post 173909)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jonny15 (Post 173942)
The 15x8 black steelies you gave a link to would be a nice match to a 31x10.5x15 tire.

No steelies there.. look again.. those rims would definetly be a problem because of the back spacing/offset..

Also soemthing to keep in mind... he wants to run 33s eventually so...

mrbigjeep 12-20-2007 08:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jonny15 (Post 173942)
31" tires are the biggest you can fit on a stock tj.

no way. i've seen 35's "fit" under a stock TJ.

i ran 32's on the street and in mud with no rubbing.

debruins 12-20-2007 08:11 AM

yeah nic-eric fit 32's as well, but there wont be a ton of flexing room, but it will look way better abd you can get a 1" BL to clear then ok for about$100

Unlimited 12-20-2007 10:20 AM

Tini runs 31x10.5x15 BFG M/T's

She has a 2" Budget boost and a 1" body lift

http://i40.photobucket.com/albums/e2...N4129small.jpg

Jonny15 12-20-2007 12:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mrbigjeep (Post 173978)
no way. i've seen 35's "fit" under a stock TJ.

i ran 32's on the street and in mud with no rubbing.


Alright yes you could probably stuff 35's under there if you wanted to, but the most common largest accepted size tires are 31's....some people can run 32's without too many problems but most get at least some rubbing and you wont get much flex out of your suspension at all. Any a 1" body lift would make more room but he already said he didnt want a lift right now. Any bigger than 32's wouldnt make sense to put on a stock tj unless you were going to lift it a few days later and just had to mount the tires.

And i messed up, i took a quick look at the link and didnt really look at the wheel, only saw black and assumed steelies but they're not :doh:....but those wheels are ordinary 15x8's and they look like ravines just with a black finish....i'm positive you'll be able to put 31's on them, plenty of people run 31's on stock wheels and they work just fine, i dont see the problem...and he never actually said he ever wanted to run 33's either....now if he ever does go to 33's he can either buy new wheels or get wheel spacers, but for now with those wheels 31's will fit stock.

Jonny15 12-20-2007 12:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mrbigjeep (Post 173978)
no way. i've seen 35's "fit" under a stock TJ.

i ran 32's on the street and in mud with no rubbing.


lol alright yes you could probably stuff 35's under there if you wanted to, but the most common largest accepted size tires are 31's....some people can run 32's without too many problems but most get at least some rubbing and you wont get much flex out of your suspension at all. Granted, if you're just doing thise for looks and dont do any offroading 32's will work for you, but be aware you're more than likely going to get some rubbing, most people do, especially if you decide to take it offroad. Any a 1" body lift would make more room if he decided to go with 32's but he already said he didnt want a lift right now. Any bigger than 32's wouldnt make sense to put on a stock tj unless you were going to lift it a few days later and just had to mount the tires.

And i messed up, i took a quick look at the link and didnt really look at the wheel, only saw black and assumed steelies but they're not :doh:....but those wheels are ordinary 15x8's and they look like ravines just with a black finish....i'm positive you'll be able to put 31's on them, plenty of people run 31's on stock wheels and they work just fine, i dont see the problem...and he never actually said he ever wanted to run 33's either....now if he ever does go to 33's he can either buy new wheels or get wheel spacers, but for now with those wheels 31's will fit stock.

MoA 12-20-2007 01:21 PM

i ran 31x10.5 stock from 99 until about 2 months ago.. no lift at all


jeep had a nice stance for a non-lifted jeep.. also barely ever rubbed, only when doing a u-turn..

zrkst1 12-20-2007 01:36 PM

any pictures of that 99 moa?

Jerry Bransford 12-20-2007 02:21 PM

A 15x10 wide wheel is too wide for a 31x10.50 tire, I would run nothing wider than a 15x8 wheel for that size. The object isn't to match the tire's width to the wheel width, the object is to match the wheel width to the tire's natural bead width which is usually several inches narrower than the tire's official width.

What's the problem? It takes much more air presssure to keep the tire seated securely against the wheel than it does with the proper width. Which means if you offroad, you can't air down very much since it could allow the tire to unseat from the wheel.

A 15x8 wheel works well for even bigger tires than 31x10.50. Most offroaders running 33x12.50 and 35x12.50 (as I run) prefer running them on 15x8 wheels.

But even on the street I wouldn't run a 15x10 wheel with 31x10.50 tires, that wheel is just plain too wide. :)

Steelman 12-20-2007 03:03 PM

zrkst1,

If you're going to get 31X10.50R15 tires, get 15X8 wheels and you'll be set.

You may rub a little when you turn all the way left or right.
If so, do this (takes about 5 minutes): http://www.4x4xplor.com/steerstop.html

Jonny15 12-20-2007 03:44 PM

yeah 15x8's will work for larger tire sizes as well, the only thing you might have to worry about is the backspacing of stock rims....the backspacing wont be a problem with 31's, worst you'd have to do is adjust the steering stops, but if you ever decide to go with 33x12.5's running wheel spacers would probably be your best bet if you want to use those same wheels

But like everyone said above if you're just planning on running 31's go ahead and get those 15x8 rims you want, they'll fit fine :cool:

LIVE TO JEEP,JEEP TO LIVE 12-20-2007 04:02 PM

I have a sweet set(5) of aluminum factory tires and rims from a 04 unlimited. They would look sa weet on your ride........:punk: Best of all they will fit. Let me know if you want pics....They are total babe magnets!


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