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MudderNuker 02-26-2012 12:16 PM

Jeep wanders
 
I used the search tool but I couldn't find anything conclusive to help me. I am not sure if my problem is unique to my 2012 Unlimited Sahara. My Jeep keeps wandering when driven. It's somewhat annoying to constantly steer to correct the constant wander. Is there anything I can do, maybe a beefier steering damper? I would like to be able to drive in a straight line without constant steering input. Thanks!

New2012JEEP 02-26-2012 12:23 PM

:popcorn:

Same issue.

BrianTG 02-26-2012 12:27 PM

This may be a silly question but what surface is it happening on? I know a few of the highways have those grooved pavements that will grab a wheel and pull you the way the grooves are going. Is this happening on all surfaces?

kbwwolf 02-26-2012 12:34 PM

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Originally Posted by MudderNuker (Post 2076130)
I used the search tool but I couldn't find anything conclusive to help me. I am not sure if my problem is unique to my 2012 Unlimited Sahara. My Jeep keeps wandering when driven. It's somewhat annoying to constantly steer to correct the constant wander. Is there anything I can do, maybe a beefier steering damper? I would like to be able to drive in a straight line without constant steering input. Thanks!

Is it lifted?

Could be your caster, which is the angle of your steering as viewed from the side. To get it set properly, you'll need front lower adjustable control arms (if caster is indeed your issue). You want your caster to be on the + end of the stock setting, around +5 or so, depending on your lift.

Control arms

kbwwolf 02-26-2012 12:36 PM

If it's not lifted then I'd check alignment first, then work from there.

MudderNuker 02-26-2012 12:43 PM

On any road. Level back roads or the highway.

MudderNuker 02-26-2012 12:51 PM

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Originally Posted by kbwwolf (Post 2076200)
Is it lifted?

Could be your caster, which is the angle of your steering as viewed from the side. To get it set properly, you'll need front lower adjustable control arms (if caster is indeed your issue). You want your caster to be on the + end of the stock setting, around +5 or so, depending on your lift.

Control arms

It is completely stock. Come think about it, I test drove another Jeep at the lot and it showed the same symptoms, but it pulled more to the right. I had forgotten about that. I remember commenting to the sales rep that it felt like it needed an alignment.

tjt94 02-26-2012 12:51 PM

It is a common trait of vehicles with wider tires, lots of space underneath, and tight steering. Check the alignment and tire pressure. It may also be attributed to the type of tire you have on the vehicle. Lots of variables. Remember, it is a Jeep, not a car.

kjeeper10 02-26-2012 12:52 PM

Windy out? :whistling:

kbwwolf 02-26-2012 01:01 PM

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Originally Posted by tjt94 (Post 2076243)
It is a common trait of vehicles with wider tires, lots of space underneath, and tight steering. Check the alignment and tire pressure. It may also be attributed to the type of tire you have on the vehicle. Lots of variables. Remember, it is a Jeep, not a car.

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Originally Posted by kjeeper10 (Post 2076245)
Windy out? :whistling:

Yup, any of these. :thumb:

MudderNuker 02-26-2012 01:05 PM

This is my fourth Jeep but my first Wrangler. None of the other Jeep vehicles I owned had the problem. The vehicle is stock with the stock 18" wheel and tires. It could be a combination of all of the above.

New2012JEEP 02-26-2012 01:08 PM

Mine is lifted, didn't do it before. So I should say Mudders should need some further investigation.

I am going to stop by Jeep exclusive shop, and have them make sure everything is good underneath. I am guessing alignment, camber, and steering might be off. I had to slam on brakes really hard for some jackass cutting me off, and the Jeep veered hard right into the other lane, while I pretty much maintained a straight steering wheel. This happened friday, scared me enough to have it taken in tomorrow.

MudderNuker 02-26-2012 01:12 PM

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Originally Posted by New2012JEEP (Post 2076303)
Mine is lifted, didn't do it before. So I should say Mudders should need some further investigation.

I am going to stop by Jeep exclusive shop, and have them make sure everything is good underneath. I am guessing alignment, camber, and steering might be off. I had to slam on brakes really hard for some jackass cutting me off, and the Jeep veered hard right into the other lane, while I pretty much maintained a straight steering wheel. This happened friday, scared me enough to have it taken in tomorrow.

I taking it to the dealer to have it checked. Have your checked out sounds like a scary mishap.

kjeeper10 02-26-2012 01:16 PM

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Originally Posted by New2012JEEP
Mine is lifted, didn't do it before. So I should say Mudders should need some further investigation.

I am going to stop by Jeep exclusive shop, and have them make sure everything is good underneath. I am guessing alignment, camber, and steering might be off. I had to slam on brakes really hard for some jackass cutting me off, and the Jeep veered hard right into the other lane, while I pretty much maintained a straight steering wheel. This happened friday, scared me enough to have it taken in tomorrow.

Let me know how your alignment checks out. I want to get some numbers myself Before I install the LCA's

sandbaja 02-26-2012 01:28 PM

It shouldn't wander. Alignment or tires are out of adjustment.

That said, it ain't a sports car.

kjeeper10 02-26-2012 01:29 PM

Steering adjusted post lift?

themoneypit 02-26-2012 01:30 PM

After my TF lift mine pulled right. I had the alignment checked and the toe on the RF tire was off. Strange that it was just the RF, but rolls straight now.

firehawk 02-26-2012 02:16 PM

jeep wander
 
:dance:hi, your jeep will wander until you put 1 or 2 k miles on it, it also depends if u have 17" factory wheels or rubi wheels. give it some time.
it should clear up. :whistling::whistling:

chopperbobby 02-26-2012 02:32 PM

wind :whistling:

New2012JEEP 02-26-2012 03:05 PM

Will do KJ, thanks guys. No, we have not adjusted anything since lift. Haven't driven too much since, but I do notice my steering wheel not centered. So trying not to drive around too much until I hit up Happy Trails Jeep Service.

kjeeper10 02-26-2012 03:11 PM

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Originally Posted by firehawk
:dance:hi, your jeep will wander until you put 1 or 2 k miles on it, it also depends if u have 17" factory wheels or rubi wheels. give it some time.
it should clear up. :whistling::whistling:

Say what?

Jeep never wondered after the lift.

tjt94 02-26-2012 03:20 PM

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Originally Posted by kjeeper10 (Post 2076638)

Jeep never wondered after the lift.

So your Jeep never wonders as it wanders all over the world?

MudderNuker 02-26-2012 03:33 PM

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Originally Posted by tjt94 (Post 2076663)
So your Jeep never wonders as it wanders all over the world?

:rofl:

Phishe 02-26-2012 03:39 PM

Mine wanders too
 
My Jeep wanders all the time. I can't tell you how often I drive it and the next thing I know, I've driven somewhere off the beaten path just because I love driving it so much. Yep, my Jeep causes me to wander too...

Oh, wait, not what you meant? :whistling:

kjeeper10 02-26-2012 03:40 PM

:rofl:

Makes me wander

courtney123 02-26-2012 03:41 PM

Jeeps are twitchy on the freeway. It's a combination of the short wheelbase, wide tires and high center of gravity.
That said, have your alignment checked any way. There's a big difference between twitchy and wandering.

MudderNuker 02-26-2012 03:52 PM

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Originally Posted by courtney123 (Post 2076728)
Jeeps are twitchy on the freeway. It's a combination of the short wheelbase, wide tires and high center of gravity.
That said, have your alignment checked any way. There's a big difference between twitchy and wandering.

Agree! How about a stronger steering damper? Or are those more like snake oil?

sandbaja 02-26-2012 05:57 PM

twitchy...wandering....sounds like either a child with a disease or a beaten horse.:whistling:

JeeperJake 02-26-2012 08:02 PM

When I was shopping for a used Wrangler for about a whole year, in driving many units I was interested in potentially purchasing, I was surprised to find about 1/2 of the lifted ones I drove, to have some degree from mild to severe, steering twitchyness.

A couple were even on the Jeep dealer lot. One 06 Rubi I otherwise really liked, other than the 4" lift, was it wouldn't stay on course driving down the highway. Plus it displayed what I've come to understand from threads here, what was the early stages of "Death Wobble".

My 08 Sahara with 18" stock rims, tracks absolutely straight with none of the issues described above.

Your Wranglers need some kind of repair, it looks like to me.

jay-1 02-26-2012 08:19 PM

Dont know if this will help but I had this same problem. I have a 2011 JKU With a 4.5 inch long arm lift with 35,s and alot of other goodies far from stock would wander all over the place wind or no wind. I first upgraded the steering stabilizer to a fox with the reloction bracket helped a little but did'nt cure it totally next had the alignment checked every thing fine not the problem so I decided to put a EVO sector shaft brace on do to the flexing of the steering box on the frame do to the lift and large tires fixed no more wandering just drove home tonight on the interstate in 30 to 35 mile an hour winds drove perfect havent had a problem since. The fuel mileage in the wind know thats a whole nother story


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