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Matador 02-26-2012 05:08 PM

Seat Creek/Squeak fix
 
A couple of weeks ago I started to get an annoying creek/squeak in my driver's seat anytime I accelerated or braked. It slowly started driving me crazy and really taking away from enjoying my Jeep. I tried retightening every bolt , but everything was snug. I then lubed the sliding rails, still no fix. Today I just snapped and spent hours trying to track down the noise until I finally got the SOB. It was coming from the inside side lower bolster

http://images5a.snapfish.com/2323232...7%3C7349nu0mrj

Whenever I applied a little pressure to that corner the bolster would make the agonizing sound. I flipped the seat forward and from the back, I pulled up the cloth and found that the problem was from the seat foam cushion rubbing against the bare metal. I then slid some pieces of felt in between the metal frame and the foam and VOILA, no more noise. Here you can see the green felt in the upper corner.

http://images3a.snapfish.com/2323232...%3A47349nu0mrj

I tried finding a solution and couldn't find anything remotely close to this issue so hopefully this will help someone else in the future. One last note, be careful while your slipping your fingers between the frame and cushion, its very sharp and I had a bunch of slashes all over my finger. :thumb:

Stylee6 02-26-2012 05:10 PM

My drivers seat does the same thing. I am going to let the dealer know next time I bring it in for a oil change. The noise drives me crazy!

JKU12 02-26-2012 07:45 PM

I have the same noise. Drives me crazy. I am going to try your fix tomorrow.

New2012JEEP 02-26-2012 07:47 PM

Haha. The people that end up buying these Jeeps from us, have no idea what has gone into them. This could not be a more perfect example:D

Matador 02-27-2012 10:19 AM

haha I'm a firm believer that you should always try to fix things yourself and also that necessity is the mother of invention. In this case I contemplated taking it back to the dealer, since it was making the sound within the first hundred miles, but I was determined to fix it myself because I knew that if I took it in, all I would get back from the dealer would be a report that everything was working perfectly and that would have infuriated me even more. So I spent some time tracking it and down and I was really happy when I pin-pointed the damn thing. From there it was a matter of trying to figure out a solution, I tried just spreading a little grease between the metal and foam, but that just cut up my fingers. Then I thought about the pieces of felt and BINGO, that solved the problem. End result, I drove into work with the biggest grin on my face, I can finally really enjoy my Jeep.

flashman 02-27-2012 10:08 PM

More squeaks
 
They have to design the Jeep seat to be flexible so it will take a beating without breaking. With that flexibility comes squeaks. Mine also had an annoying squeak I narrowed down to be the mechanism that releases the seat to slide back and forth.

While I haven't had time to come up with a permanent fix, I temporarily wrapped a bungee cord around the release handle and the seat frame to add extra pressure pulling down on the handle. Once I come up with a better/permanent fix, I will post.

m0wens 02-27-2012 10:18 PM

How long was the piece of felt you used?


Quote:

Originally Posted by Matador (Post 2079451)
haha I'm a firm believer that you should always try to fix things yourself and also that necessity is the mother of invention. In this case I contemplated taking it back to the dealer, since it was making the sound within the first hundred miles, but I was determined to fix it myself because I knew that if I took it in, all I would get back from the dealer would be a report that everything was working perfectly and that would have infuriated me even more. So I spent some time tracking it and down and I was really happy when I pin-pointed the damn thing. From there it was a matter of trying to figure out a solution, I tried just spreading a little grease between the metal and foam, but that just cut up my fingers. Then I thought about the pieces of felt and BINGO, that solved the problem. End result, I drove into work with the biggest grin on my face, I can finally really enjoy my Jeep.


Matador 02-28-2012 07:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by m0wens (Post 2082189)
How long was the piece of felt you used?

about 3" X 2". It was just making the sound in one spot. It took me a while to pin point it exactly.

Dale_K 02-28-2012 09:10 AM

3M makes a special anti-squeak tape for automotive use and it really works well. I bought mine at O'Rielys but they don't stock it out on the shelves. They carry it for their commercial customers and you'll have to ask for it. It's expensive but goes a long way because you only use a small piece for most fixes. The tape is clear and thick and very, very slippery on top. Thankfully I don't have a problem with my Jeep seat squeaking but my Chevy Cruze had an upholstery squeak similar to the OP but coming from the seal belt buckle rubbing and the anti squeak tape worked perfectly.

JKU12 02-28-2012 04:50 PM

I just spent two hours sticking felt in every nook and cranny of my seat. It's still squeaking. Taking it to the dealer tomorrow.

Orngcrate 02-28-2012 08:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Matador
A couple of weeks ago I started to get an annoying creek/squeak in my driver's seat anytime I accelerated or braked. It slowly started driving me crazy and really taking away from enjoying my Jeep. I tried retightening every bolt , but everything was snug. I then lubed the sliding rails, still no fix. Today I just snapped and spent hours trying to track down the noise until I finally got the SOB. It was coming from the inside side lower bolster

Whenever I applied a little pressure to that corner the bolster would make the agonizing sound. I flipped the seat forward and from the back, I pulled up the cloth and found that the problem was from the seat foam cushion rubbing against the bare metal. I then slid some pieces of felt in between the metal frame and the foam and VOILA, no more noise. Here you can see the green felt in the upper corner.

I tried finding a solution and couldn't find anything remotely close to this issue so hopefully this will help someone else in the future. One last note, be careful while your slipping your fingers between the frame and cushion, its very sharp and I had a bunch of slashes all over my finger. :thumb:

Thanks for posting this. Mine started squeezing at about 500 miles and is getting worse but I haven't had the time to track it down, but this sounds like the same location..

SilverSport 02-28-2012 10:59 PM

Hmmm......I too have a squeak coming from that general location. I was thinking it was the armrest on the center console since the noise seemed to happen when I would move my arm.

flashman 03-14-2012 09:50 PM

My squeak is fixed
 
Not all seat squeaks will be the same, but here is what I did to fix mine and it was a ver simple fix.

First the culprit of my squeak in the driver's seat. The release mechanism to slide the seat back and forth. For some reason, the springs or whatever is pulling the bar back down in position, was not strong enough. To verify I found it, I wrapped a bungee cord bar across the front and the seat frame below it to pull it down. No more squeak!

Because I didn't like the looks of the bungee cord wrapped around multiple times and the fact that you would get a hernia trying to pull the lever, I looked for a more accept solution. After much study, I came up with this simple, quick and cheap fix.

The bar that you pull up on to slide the seat curves down, the turns back in to two channels, one on each side of the seat. There is a small amount of space between the bar and the top of the channel.

I had some scraps of 3/8" thick high density foam sitting around from an interlocking anti-fatigue flooring mat kit for my work bench.

http://i.imgur.com/pGQzB.jpg

I simply cut off two of the tabs on the interlocking piece, just wide enough to fit snugly in the channels. I then took each piece an slid them in to the channels the bar goes up in, then pushed them back about 3 inches with a long screwdriver.

http://i.imgur.com/uOb5Q.jpg

When I was through, I was really surprised how easy and effective this fix was. The lever is still fairly easy to pull up. Not a single squeak in a week.

Stylee6 03-21-2012 08:54 AM

My driver seat squeak was just fixed yesterday at the dealer. They had to order a new seat base. The annoying seat noise is now gone. Thanks for finding my problem Fields Jeep of Northfield IL. If anyone wants quality service and your problem found, fields is way to go. The staff is superb as well!

radioscooter 04-18-2012 12:16 AM

My driver's seat started squeaking about 100 miles in and hasn't stopped. (I'm at 4000 now) Took it into service and they said they couldn't replicate the squeak. It of course squeaked for me the minute I picked it up again. It bugs the heck out of me. They also couldn't fix the bumper stains that happen every time it rains, but that's another story.

It's going in tomorrow again for a few maintenance things. I'll take another shot at them fixing it.

Personally I am vehemently opposed to the notion of having to troubleshoot these type of annoyances myself in a 3 month old vehicle.

AMangum 04-18-2012 12:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SilverRubi
Hmmm......I too have a squeak coming from that general location. I was thinking it was the armrest on the center console since the noise seemed to happen when I would move my arm.

This same thing is starting to happen for me as well, though I am certain it is the lid on the jockey box under my right elbow. If I move side to side with my elbow while pushing down slightly it squeaks from the hinge I think. Not sure how to fix it yet though.

j0nx 04-18-2012 07:11 AM

Mine started squeaking about 500 miles as well and hasn't stopped. I have never bothered to have them look at it because I know they'd just blame it on my bestop underseat box. It doesn't really bother me anyway.

Matador 04-18-2012 07:25 AM

well, my seat started creeking even more now. I took it in for an oil change over the weekend and asked the tech to take a look at it, of-course he couldn't replicate the sound and when I tried making it creek the sound from the traffic and shop just drowned it out. So, I was sitting there rocking back and forth like an idiot asking him if he hears it. In the end he told me that Chrysler would require that he remove the seat, take it apart and find out what piece needs to be replaced. He then needs to document everything send it out and wait for approval to have it replaced. He said that when all is said an done, it might cause more problems and be more of a hassle than its worth and that I should keep on driving with it until the next oil change and see if it gets worse. In other words, just deal with it its a Jeep. :nonono:

Matador 04-23-2012 10:01 AM

Well I got fed up with the creaking noise and what seemed like a slight lean on the inside corner of the seat. I took it all out on Sat. put it on the bench and found some issues.

First off two wear marks on a cross brace. This bar is only on 2dr JK's and I'm assuming it has to do with the tilt seat function because I looked at my wife's JKU and its not there.
http://images5a.snapfish.com/2323232...43242349nu0mrj
The only thing that could make contact with the bar is the aluminum shield that is above it.

Here I'm sitting on the seat to get a better idea of the point of contact. My only assumption was that shield. Its edge is very sharp so I used some pliers to bend the lip slightly to avoid contact with the bar
http://images3a.snapfish.com/2323232...6%3C8349nu0mrj

The second issue was the seat rocking back and forth, as if its mounting bolts were loose. The rocking was getting worse with time, along with the creaking. So while it was still mounted to the jeep I noticed that there was a lot of play at this particular contact point. Its a bolt that has a spacer that glides along a channel. There was about 2mm of play causing the seat to rock.
http://images5a.snapfish.com/2323232...7%3B8349nu0mrj

Close up shot in "resting" position
http://images5a.snapfish.com/2323232...A%3B9349nu0mrj

Close up shot of it rocked back. Notice the gap above the bolt when compared to the other photo.
http://images5a.snapfish.com/2323232...3B%3A349nu0mrj

I took the bolt out and noticed that there is a plastic sleeve that was crushed flat on two sides.
http://images5a.snapfish.com/2323232...3A%3B349nu0mrj

I used some pliers and round it off again, then I wrapped it in a couple of layers of electric tape and trimmed it. This gave it a more even and beefier edge.
http://images5a.snapfish.com/2323232...37876349nu0mrj

I did that same thing to the other side of the seat. I lubed up all the channels and springs, checked every nut on the frame to make sure it was all snug. Then I mounted the seat back. I had to double check the torque setting in several places because it all lists the mounting bolts at just 45lbs. When I took them out it was easily more than double that amount. I had to hit it with an impact gun and then a breaker bar just to take them out. Easily what seemed like 90-100lbs. In any case I tightened it according to spec 45lbs. and it felt fine.

Conclusion: After it was all mounted up, the seat felt much more sturdy. There was no rocking at all and it felt like the back was straightened. I still had a very minor creak but I clicked the seat height adjustment up slightly while recreating the creek and it suddenly went away. My guess is that I hadn't bent the shield lip back enough to total avoid the bar, the extra height adjustment avoided contact entirely. I wrapped the two wear spots on the bar with a piece of electric tape to see if I continue to get contact, but so far I have no noise at all and no rocking back and forth.

CBOB 01-31-2013 08:37 AM

Took my Jeep in ( 2013 wrangler sport 6 speed 9,500 mile) the driver seat was making a creek noise pretty much right after I bought it. everytime you would move side to side it would start squeaking The dealership said it was the seat frame. So they got it ordered. Today they are swapping out .

geckojk1 01-31-2013 05:23 PM

there is a TSB at the dealer for this problem , must be fairly common

Loftness 03-07-2013 08:51 AM

Brand new JKU, 400 miles on it, and I just started to notice a small squeak. I haven't had time to pin point it yet, but I wasn't at all surprised to find this thread. The only other time I've had a squeak issue in a car was in a new Volvo and it turned out to be a seat squeak.

So I guess this weekend I'll try to get a better locator on it. Glad I found this thread!


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