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97flexy 02-27-2012 09:47 AM

MY Low budget DD LCG build
 
I bought my tj 1.5 yrs
http://img179.imageshack.us/img179/8085/dsc02350p.jpg

I've owned 11 4x4s and lifted most of them, so I decided to not lift my jeep and build it to crawl/flex and be able to get huge tires under it on stock springs.

New stinger bumper
http://img37.imageshack.us/img37/1889/sspx2274.jpg

D-rings, rock sliders and steering box skid
http://img534.imageshack.us/img534/1416/dsc02446ws.jpg

Modern classic enterprises flat fenders install
http://img198.imageshack.us/img198/3456/dsc02487x.jpg

http://img13.imageshack.us/img13/8554/dsc02488r.jpg


Traced the outline on my fender with a black sharpie
http://img607.imageshack.us/img607/4962/dsc02489k.jpg
http://img834.imageshack.us/img834/8947/dsc02490r.jpg

No turning back now.... I used a 4" electric cut off disk, kinda dusty but it worked.
http://img840.imageshack.us/img840/7662/dsc02491r.jpg

Make sure to clean the metal with a good cleaner (i used 409)
http://img580.imageshack.us/img580/996/dsc02495f.jpg


flat fenders installed turn signals are mounted there for a few days til i get new lights.
http://img27.imageshack.us/img27/133/dsc02504uo.jpg
new LED's installed front and rear with the proper flasher
http://img12.imageshack.us/img12/7308/dsc03045e.jpg

Test fit of 33x12.5s
a bit wide for my taste.
http://img804.imageshack.us/img804/7257/sspx2385.jpg

Flex'n on snow mound with new tires and winch
http://img841.imageshack.us/img841/7839/dsc02756l.jpg

Stage one finished-
Up grades include: smittybuilt f/r bumper & rock sliders, gas tank skid, MCE flat fenders, removal of rear flares, steering box skid, 33x10.5 TSL's, ARB d-rings, Cobra cb, LED fornt marker lights and rear 4" brake lights, 8000lbs winch.how it sits as of winter 2k10
http://img9.imageshack.us/img9/9468/dsc02834h.jpg
poser flex'n
http://img822.imageshack.us/img822/4513/dsc02840ju.jpg

97flexy 02-27-2012 09:52 AM

built a new stinger/winch bumper
http://img847.imageshack.us/img847/9017/dsc02968w.jpg

time to start the Hi-line front fenders
http://img442.imageshack.us/img442/966/dsc03018jz.jpg
http://img535.imageshack.us/img535/6812/dsc03022y.jpg
http://img542.imageshack.us/img542/122/dsc03029j.jpg
I cut the hood with a jig saw and a long blade. I'm moving the fenders 3" up
http://img191.imageshack.us/img191/8195/dsc03032r.jpg
http://img408.imageshack.us/img408/7285/dsc03033h.jpg
Drivers side hi-line installed for another test fit.
http://img844.imageshack.us/img844/5803/dsc03040j.jpg
passenger side installed
http://img684.imageshack.us/img684/9830/dsc03042ha.jpg
hi-line installed poser flex again.
still need to fix the hood
http://img94.imageshack.us/img94/5805/dsc03051jh.jpg
Long travel front shocks
http://img607.imageshack.us/img607/4576/dsc03142hd.jpg
new front shock sitting next to stock front shock
http://img716.imageshack.us/img716/2556/dsc03149wb.jpg
getting closer
http://img853.imageshack.us/img853/9306/dsc03151m.jpg
mock up of shock in place(full extended)
http://img824.imageshack.us/img824/8849/dsc03153mw.jpg

97flexy 02-27-2012 10:03 AM

Fender off again time to weld in the new shock towers:D
http://img38.imageshack.us/img38/9189/dsc03174mp.jpg

http://img267.imageshack.us/img267/7058/dsc03185dp.jpg

Hood closed
http://img341.imageshack.us/img341/4039/dsc03194x.jpg

new steps
http://img811.imageshack.us/img811/9...idenewstep.jpg

cage build
http://img707.imageshack.us/img707/1...0816at2037.jpg

all welded in and painted cage is a thru the dash design
http://img41.imageshack.us/img41/147...0820at0242.jpg

Rear outboard shocks
about where I'm going to cut.
http://img94.imageshack.us/img94/218...103at15442.jpg

Mock up of shock tower, frame still needs to be cut a bit
http://img855.imageshack.us/img855/6...104at00083.jpg

shock tac'd in place and cycling the suspension
http://img821.imageshack.us/img821/764/dsc03683up.jpg

Full compression bumpstop
http://img831.imageshack.us/img831/2996/dsc03680ik.jpg

thats plenty of room
http://img836.imageshack.us/img836/8642/dsc03677xh.jpg

custom lower shock tabs
http://img109.imageshack.us/img109/6628/dsc03674w.jpg

another poser flex on a 32" snow mound on stock 2.5L springs
http://img859.imageshack.us/img859/6291/dsc03716k.jpg

I just installed some 4.OL springs up front, it leveled the jeep out (the winch pulled the front end down) and flexes much better with the 2.5L spring I'd unseat the spring an inch at full droop with the 4,.0L springs I don't unseat anymore.

BeaverJeeper 02-27-2012 06:24 PM

AWESOME man! i have MCE's and was thinking on hi lining them, looks so sweet!

jgorm 02-27-2012 06:31 PM

looks good!

97flexy 02-27-2012 06:36 PM

hopefully I'l be hi-line'n the rear fenders tomorrow after work =)
I've been itching to cut something on my jeep.

schnutzy 02-27-2012 06:55 PM

subscribed :popcorn:

97flexy 02-27-2012 11:21 PM

hopefully the first week of march i'l have my new LEDs & then I'l be building some LED reverse lights. for the first time in six month or so I'l have back up lights and be able too see.

97flexy 03-02-2012 07:59 PM

Building the reverse lights tonight, and starting to plain & brainstorm about a super stout rear bumper build, with d-rings and hitch

G54 03-02-2012 09:13 PM

Great job! I'm doing something similar fitting 33x10.50 on only a 1.25" BL and 3/4" front spacer with MCEs...but no where near as involved as your build.

97flexy 03-03-2012 06:37 PM

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Originally Posted by gus54 (Post 2096456)
Great job! I'm doing something similar fitting 33x10.50 on only a 1.25" BL and 3/4" front spacer with MCEs...but no where near as involved as your build.

If you have the 2.5L look for some stock 4.oL springs and you won't need the spacer. the 4.oL stock springs will give you enough lift to compensate for the weight of a winch.:D and thanks, I try to do what I can on what very little money I have to play with. I try not to send more then $100 per part. and other then the cage and gas tank skid I've been able to keep that $100.00 per part limit. CA's will break that limit when time comes for those too, unless I make them:D

G54 03-03-2012 06:48 PM

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Originally Posted by 97flexy (Post 2099119)
If you have the 2.5L look for some stock 4.oL springs and you won't need the spacer. the 4.oL stock springs will give you enough lift to compensate for the weight of a winch.:D and thanks, I try to do what I can on what very little money I have to play with. I try not to send more then $100 per part. and other then the cage and gas tank skid I've been able to keep that $100.00 per part limit. CA's will break that limit when time comes for those too, unless I make them:D

Actually I have a 4.0 but the springs have 128k on them. i have the four stock springs from my old LJ with only 24K on them I am going to swap into the TJ. I figure the spacer will give me just a little more room in front. The LJ came with a hard top so chances are the spring rate difference may yield me a little lift.

97flexy 03-04-2012 01:17 AM

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Originally Posted by gus54 (Post 2099159)
Actually I have a 4.0 but the springs have 128k on them. i have the four stock springs from my old LJ with only 24K on them I am going to swap into the TJ. I figure the spacer will give me just a little more room in front. The LJ came with a hard top so chances are the spring rate difference may yield me a little lift.

ok that sounds like it would work.... do you have a winch on your jeep?
If you do you can get some 2" light duty lift springs to level your jeep back out.

G54 03-04-2012 12:57 PM

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Originally Posted by 97flexy (Post 2100451)
ok that sounds like it would work.... do you have a winch on your jeep?
If you do you can get some 2" light duty lift springs to level your jeep back out.

I don't but I will have a winch eventually. I think the 3/4" spacer should get it fairly level unless the rear springs net me more lift than I think they will.

Czechsky 03-04-2012 05:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gus54 (Post 2101465)
I don't but I will have a winch eventually. I think the 3/4" spacer should get it fairly level unless the rear springs net me more lift than I think they will.

Gus-
I hope you can share photos when you get around to doing it. I may be going the same route unless I win the lotto and can afford the AEV highline kit.

97flexy 03-04-2012 05:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Czechsky (Post 2102225)
Gus-
I hope you can share photos when you get around to doing it. I may be going the same route unless I win the lotto and can afford the AEV highline kit.

The AEV high line kit is tooo expensive!!! just read the forums and do it your self, its not that hard. Trust me I've done it. you just can't be afraid to cut your jeep a bit, like 3" off the hood.

G54 03-04-2012 05:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Czechsky (Post 2102225)
Gus-
I hope you can share photos when you get around to doing it. I may be going the same route unless I win the lotto and can afford the AEV highline kit.

I have a build thread that links to our clubs forum. it is currently in the pics section but I'm getting it moved to the this builders section shortly. Although I haven't gotten to far yet...only had the jeep for a few weeks.

and here it is! Thanks RatherBinArizona! Our mods are the best!

http://www.wranglerforum.com/f118/li...ld-143726.html

Czechsky 03-05-2012 08:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gus54 (Post 2102275)
I have a build thread that links to our clubs forum. it is currently in the pics section but I'm getting it moved to the this builders section shortly. Although I haven't gotten to far yet...only had the jeep for a few weeks.

and here it is! Thanks RatherBinArizona! Our mods are the best!

http://www.wranglerforum.com/f118/li...ld-143726.html

I just linked up to it- looking good! Thanks for sharing.

TheTJRod 03-05-2012 10:44 AM

Nice build, I really like how you did the long travel shock mounts with the ford towers. If you make control arms with JJ's or similar on both ends you will be over the 100 limit. 40 per end, 10 per threaded insert and around 20 for the tube. I like your rear axle shock mounts too. I got some 4" wide 3/16" steel plate that could me made into those.

I'm planning on doing the high line with my tube fenders too. How are you going to measure for the cutout of the rear. May be a good idea to ask someone with genright hi-line fenders how much they cut off. That way later if you want fenders in the rear you can buy those to put on. Or if you cut to much out getting corner guards should cover it back up nicely. Also are you planning on covering up the gap that was made when you moved the fenders up? I think I will just try to extend the rocker guards out and box in that section.

Also do you care to give the length or model of shocks you used. Would like to see how much travel you gained doing that.

97wrangler-242 03-05-2012 11:24 AM

I'd like to know as much about those long travels as possible. I'd like to do that when I lift but I wouldn't know the first place to start. I'm going to run OME 2.5" springs and currie arms all the way around and I feel like the shocks are really gonna hold me back on flex. Thanks for any advice

97flexy 03-05-2012 03:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheTJRod (Post 2104960)
Nice build, I really like how you did the long travel shock mounts with the ford towers. If you make control arms with JJ's or similar on both ends you will be over the 100 limit. 40 per end, 10 per threaded insert and around 20 for the tube. I like your rear axle shock mounts too. I got some 4" wide 3/16" steel plate that could me made into those.

I'm planning on doing the high line with my tube fenders too. How are you going to measure for the cutout of the rear. May be a good idea to ask someone with genright hi-line fenders how much they cut off. That way later if you want fenders in the rear you can buy those to put on. Or if you cut to much out getting corner guards should cover it back up nicely. Also are you planning on covering up the gap that was made when you moved the fenders up? I think I will just try to extend the rocker guards out and box in that section.

Also do you care to give the length or model of shocks you used. Would like to see how much travel you gained doing that.


I have the same amount of travel as a 4" lifted jeep now, and feel much more stable while flex'n. I have roughly 9.5" of usable travel the shocks will keep going but my stock CAs, brake lines, and stock springs won't allow them to extended any longer. I use the Rancho 9000's, I don't remember the part number but they are the 15" travel shocks.. RS99036 maybe.. I went with those shocks cause I got them NEW for $50 each, plus when the time comes I can tie the shock towers into the cage for more support and add air shocks


Quote:

I'd like to know as much about those long travels as possible. I'd like to do that when I lift but I wouldn't know the first place to start. I'm going to run OME 2.5" springs and currie arms all the way around and I feel like the shocks are really gonna hold me back on flex. Thanks for any advice
I have 2" lift springs that I've installed for a few minutes to see if I like the ride/height, I ended up take'n them back off, but even with those springs I still don't come close to over extending or over compressing the shocks. If you are going to run a lift and upgrade your shocks how I have done look into CAs, longer brake lines, limiting straps, coil spring retainers (i have on the front still need to make for the rear) Adj. front and rear trac bar(mine needed them with a 2" lift most jeeps don't) if you have any questions feel free to ask I have LOTS of pictures many more than I posted.

97wrangler-242 03-05-2012 03:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 97flexy

I have 2" lift springs that I've installed for a few minutes to see if I like the ride/height, I ended up take'n them back off, but even with those springs I still don't come close to over extending or over compressing the shocks. If you are going to run a lift and upgrade your shocks how I have done look into CAs, longer brake lines, limiting straps, coil spring retainers (i have on the front still need to make for the rear) Adj. front and rear trac bar(mine needed them with a 2" lift most jeeps don't) if you have any questions feel free to ask I have LOTS of pictures many more than I posted.

I plan on running currie arms all the way around and I already have an adjustable rear, just uninstalled. I was most curious about where and how you decided to place the new mounts for the shocks and if you bought or fabricated the new mounts.

TheTJRod 03-05-2012 04:00 PM

Just for your info. There are some easy ways of extending your available axle droop. For brake lines, you could just drill and tap a hole a couple inches lower for the brake line mount on the frame. Also there are some lines that will bolt right up that are out of different vehicles. I believe mine are from a 90's Chevy truck. Front and rear are at least 5" longer.

For a cheap limiting strap use old seatbelts. Mount one side on the axle side shock mount bolt and drill and tap for a bolt on the frame.

Replacing the stock track bar with a frame side double shear design(how the axle side mounts) will improve axle droop. Mounted with a vertical stud limits down travel to some degree. Even the Currie and JKS track bars still mount this way, they give you more travel over stock but will still bind.
http://i268.photobucket.com/albums/j...3/chuck038.jpg

TheTJRod 03-05-2012 04:02 PM

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Originally Posted by 97wrangler-242 (Post 2105995)
I was most curious about where and how you decided to place the new mounts for the shocks and if you bought or fabricated the new mounts.

Ford shock towers for I believe a F250. Part# e5tz-18183-a

About 25 a piece

97wrangler-242 03-05-2012 07:51 PM

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Originally Posted by TheTJRod

Ford shock towers for I believe a F250. Part# e5tz-18183-a

About 25 a piece

Would that b at the local auto parts store or from ford directly? Do you just notch the frame and weld them in?

97wrangler-242 03-05-2012 07:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheTJRod
Just for your info. There are some easy ways of extending your available axle droop. For brake lines, you could just drill and tap a hole a couple inches lower for the brake line mount on the frame. Also there are some lines that will bolt right up that are out of different vehicles. I believe mine are from a 90's Chevy truck. Front and rear are at least 5" longer.

For a cheap limiting strap use old seatbelts. Mount one side on the axle side shock mount bolt and drill and tap for a bolt on the frame.

Replacing the stock track bar with a frame side double shear design(how the axle side mounts) will improve axle droop. Mounted with a vertical stud limits down travel to some degree. Even the Currie and JKS track bars still mount this way, they give you more travel over stock but will still bind.

What type of track bar mounting are you talking about? I haven't heard of it

TheTJRod 03-05-2012 11:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 97wrangler-242

Would that b at the local auto parts store or from ford directly? Do you just notch the frame and weld them in?

I don't think you will find them at local parts stores. You can get them at ford dealerships or online. Found one for 18 here. http://www.partsmike.com/store/store...on=show_detail

TheTJRod 03-06-2012 12:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 97wrangler-242

What type of track bar mounting are you talking about? I haven't heard of it

Having the mount this way allows the link to rotate on the bolt instead of flexing and binding.
http://i268.photobucket.com/albums/j...3/chuck038.jpg

ALASKA99TJ 03-06-2012 02:42 AM

subscribed

97flexy 03-06-2012 12:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 97wrangler-242 (Post 2106898)
Would that b at the local auto parts store or from ford directly? Do you just notch the frame and weld them in?

you need to get them thru ford I bought in pairs got both for 20 n some change include'n tax. The rear you need to notch the frame the front you need to cut the top of the shock tower off and beat them into the factory shock tower.


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