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Rubie 02-27-2012 12:05 PM

How long will it take the new soft top to stretch?
 
I read that many people struggled with soft top installation. It was a 2 hour of agony for my husband yesterday. Not to mention the amount of swearing in the process. :)

Putting the main top was so tight, zipping up the windows weren't fun either. I insisted on doing the last window myself because I'll have to do it in the future. It was impossible for a girl with no upper strength to hook those flap in. I'm hoping that the fabric will stretch soon. I'd like to take the roof off soon but I'm scared to do so anytime soon - especially without my husband. How long did it take for the top to stretch enough that anyone can put it on?

Also we were shocked and disappointed that you'd have to remove the windows in order to fold the soft top. We never thought of that before purchasing it. Does this mean wrangler drivers have to check the weather whenever they take the top off? You can't just park somewhere and quickly put the soft top on like other convertible vehicles.

New2012JEEP 02-27-2012 12:15 PM

less than a week or two once exposed to sun. Mine was tough, then got very maneageable

kjeeper10 02-27-2012 12:18 PM

4351 Attachment(s)
72 degrees :) Bestop recommends

courtney123 02-27-2012 12:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Rubie (Post 2079574)
Also we were shocked and disappointed that you'd have to remove the windows in order to fold the soft top. We never thought of that before purchasing it. Does this mean wrangler drivers have to check the weather whenever they take the top off? You can't just park somewhere and quickly put the soft top on like other convertible vehicles.

The windows are plastic and scratch and wrinkle easily. I know some people who leave them in when putting the top down but they look terrible.
You can't compare a Jeep soft top to a convertable car. Two different intended markets.
Get a case for the windows and leave it in the back so they're handy if needed. :flowers:

Sherifftruman 02-27-2012 01:46 PM

We bought a window roll http://www.quadratec.com/products/91109_111_07.htm and would lay it on top of the folded up top. If it was for sure going to be nice, we would sometimes leave the windows at home, but my wife has been caught in a quick pop up storm without them before and it's not too fun.

21edupej 02-27-2012 02:30 PM

Wow, I have a funny story about NEW tops on the 2012! In fact, it happened while I was test driving to buy mine. We drove the Jeep I bought, then we drove a Silver one identical to mine (except the color). I wanted to push back just the Sunrider section and see how easy it was to put down and how much wind, noise etc while driving. I and the salesman got out and had it all back fairly quickly and were on our way. We drove a few miles and I pulled over into a parking lot and said let's put it back up and drive the rest of the way. It was about 60 degrees outside and sunny. Both the salesman and I are not little guys, both over 6'1". It took us the better part of 15 minutes to just put the front Sunrider portion up and get it latched into place! :banghead: We laughed about that for the next two hours at the dealer doing the paperwork and getting the one I purchased prepped for me! :rofl: I'm glad I found out how difficult it "could" be to relatch the top. It gets to 120 degrees here in the summer, so I doubt it will take all that long to loosen up. I bought a ratchet clamp like one would use in woodworking to squeeze the top frame back to the windshield header. It has two rubber pads on each end of the clamp and you simply squeeze it a few times as it moves closer together. We'll see if that works. I'll let everyone know!!

kbwwolf 02-27-2012 02:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rubie (Post 2079574)
I read that many people struggled with soft top installation. It was a 2 hour of agony for my husband yesterday. Not to mention the amount of swearing in the process. :)

Putting the main top was so tight, zipping up the windows weren't fun either. I insisted on doing the last window myself because I'll have to do it in the future. It was impossible for a girl with no upper strength to hook those flap in. I'm hoping that the fabric will stretch soon. I'd like to take the roof off soon but I'm scared to do so anytime soon - especially without my husband. How long did it take for the top to stretch enough that anyone can put it on?

Also we were shocked and disappointed that you'd have to remove the windows in order to fold the soft top. We never thought of that before purchasing it. Does this mean wrangler drivers have to check the weather whenever they take the top off? You can't just park somewhere and quickly put the soft top on like other convertible vehicles.

As folks have said, the top will stretch out with a little time on the Jeep, and in warm weather/good sun.

As for the windows, buy one of these so you can roll em up and store em in the Jeep (without scratching the hell out of em) when you're out and about.

Bestop 42810-09 - Bestop HOSS Window Storage Duffle in Charcoal For Bestop and Factory Zip Out Vinyl Windows - Quadratec

Also, a handy tip from WF member JD's Dream:

Buy a swimming pool noodle and wrap the roll around that when you're rolling the windows up...it'll keep the plastic windows from warping or sagging in the bag (by filling it up) on really hot days.

Sherifftruman 02-27-2012 03:10 PM

The one disadvantage with the Bestop duffel is that you have to take the rear window bar (cant remember the real name for it off the top of my head) out to roll them up. With the other one, you can leave it on the rear window still. The advantage is it is not sitting there blocking your rear view.

daggo66 02-27-2012 03:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Sherifftruman (Post 2080110)
The one disadvantage with the Bestop duffel is that you have to take the rear window bar (cant remember the real name for it off the top of my head) out to roll them up. With the other one, you can leave it on the rear window still. The advantage is it is not sitting there blocking your rear view.

You take it out and simply replace it on the Jeep. The gate keeps it in place.

daggo66 02-27-2012 03:48 PM

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Originally Posted by JeepDude2012 (Post 2079994)
Wow, I have a funny story about NEW tops on the 2012! In fact, it happened while I was test driving to buy mine. We drove the Jeep I bought, then we drove a Silver one identical to mine (except the color). I wanted to push back just the Sunrider section and see how easy it was to put down and how much wind, noise etc while driving. I and the salesman got out and had it all back fairly quickly and were on our way. We drove a few miles and I pulled over into a parking lot and said let's put it back up and drive the rest of the way. It was about 60 degrees outside and sunny. Both the salesman and I are not little guys, both over 6'1". It took us the better part of 15 minutes to just put the front Sunrider portion up and get it latched into place! :banghead: We laughed about that for the next two hours at the dealer doing the paperwork and getting the one I purchased prepped for me! :rofl: I'm glad I found out how difficult it "could" be to relatch the top. It gets to 120 degrees here in the summer, so I doubt it will take all that long to loosen up. I bought a ratchet clamp like one would use in woodworking to squeeze the top frame back to the windshield header. It has two rubber pads on each end of the clamp and you simply squeeze it a few times as it moves closer together. We'll see if that works. I'll let everyone know!!

That's what happens when you release the sunrider latches above the door. They are supposed to remain latched if you are using the Sunrider. When you keep them latched the top does not slide back and make it nearly impossible to re-attach the header latches.

nwbronco 02-27-2012 04:22 PM

Another trick to getting the top on is to get it as close to latching as possible, then turn on the heat on full. Out of the front vents and point them toward the top. In about 10-15 minutes it will be warm enough to stretch and seat. Prop up the rear window in the front seat as well.



Bob K.

Rubie 02-27-2012 04:29 PM

THANK YOU for all the great tips and links. Really appreciate them.

RBarker63 02-27-2012 04:32 PM

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Originally Posted by nwbronco
Another trick to getting the top on is to get it as close to latching as possible, then turn on the heat on full. Out of the front vents and point them toward the top. In about 10-15 minutes it will be warm enough to stretch and seat. Prop up the rear window in the front seat as well.

Bob K.

Wish I tried that last week when I was fighting my new Trektop nx

21edupej 03-01-2012 10:46 PM

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Originally Posted by daggo66 (Post 2080220)
That's what happens when you release the sunrider latches above the door. They are supposed to remain latched if you are using the Sunrider. When you keep them latched the top does not slide back and make it nearly impossible to re-attach the header latches.

You are ABSOLUTELY right! I have put the SunRider back twice since I brought it home and had ZERO problems. After I read your post, I watched the video on using the top, the salesman told me the wrong procedure (quite obviously if you read the test drive story! LOL) When I stopped today to pick up my license plates at the dealer, I showed him the proper way to do it!

I did buy the woodworking ratchet clamp (for anyone who wants one, they are on sale this week at Harbor Freight for a whopping $1.99). It fits perfectly in the u-bracket on the windshield that is used to tie down the windshield to the hood if you fold it down, and then on the front bow of the soft top. A few clicks and it is ready to lock the top down.

Like you said though, the SunRider section works perfectly if you DO NOT unlatch those clips on the sides. you can just about put it down or up while siting at a stop light!! I LOVE IT!! :thumb:

phottomatt 03-01-2012 11:16 PM

Done in the right sequence it shouldn't take more than 10 minutes to put the top up. First thing is to hook the front latches (but don't tighten them) then secure the rear corners THEN tighten the front latches. The rear window is the only thing I have trouble with and its only because the zipper needs waxing periodically.

Cruise missile 03-02-2012 10:13 AM

The first thing I do when putting the top up is latch the top into the sunrider clips.

Everything else goes smoothly after that, and you don't have to worry about a sudden gust flipping the top back on you.

Jeepandjeepaccessories 07-24-2016 04:09 PM

We got the Bestop Supertop Soft Top NX with Tinted Side & Rear Windows, No Doors. It was cost 1K bucks. It is awesome We are so happy with our purchase. However, it took more than three hours to get it on with two of us, and sometimes even the neighbor pulling and tugging on it. Not just the fabric either. We also had to pull on the metal bars. We had to disconnect and reconnect them over and over. Alone without the material, the bars are easy to connect but once the cloth is attached nothing fits!! We ended up having to partially take the roll bar padding off to accommodate the new pivot brackets which were not like the old ones. The Youtube video from the channel known as BestopTeam was very helpful. It is mentioned in the video that the pad covers will have to be partially taken off, but because the new brackets were so different, the cloth holes would not align with the new brackets unless more cloth was removed to create slack Which meant we would have to remove the seat belts which are installed over the padding and padding cover. That surprise was not shown in the video! They just showed their job completed in two seconds with these two jagged gaping holes in their padding covers! Once we did that the cloth holes fit over the brackets and then we could reattach the padding covers and the seat belts. Some people have a lot of difficulty taking those seat belts off due to the loctite. It was easy for us, but time consuming. The video comments were disabled. No surprise there since the job is so hard to do. One hint for the attaching windows is to put a string through the zipper handle. This string can be used to pull the zipper instead of holding on to that little zipper handle with your fingertips. It will reduce injury to your fingers and give you more leverage. The velcro hurts. While using the attached string to close the zipper the other person tries to pull together each side and hold both sides straight. You don't want to tear the cloth or break the zipper from pulling too hard, So once the zipper is strained and you fear that pulling more will tear it then leave it in that strained position overnight to let it stretch out and then try again in the morning. Another hint (which we didn't do) is to leave out in the sun for a couple days. That was hindsight. I imagine that an auto shop would charge more than $200 to do it. Reading the directions and watching YouTube video on how to assemble was very helpful but both were lacking in critical information. Together it was good enough. The man and woman in the video never mentioned the bushings that need to be used to connect the Center Bow to the Header assembly. For the pivot thingy, The lady describes how the drivers side pivot bracket should face when mounting but then the camera immediately cuts to the guy installing the opposite one! but a double take cleared that up. The video made the installation look easy which made us say, "Yeah right" a couple times. However, they did say that it took them two hours to install it. In closing the job is done and we are happy with the product. Sometimes its nice to see that other people go through hell to make their Jeep and Jeep Accessories look awesome.


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