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chris.george 02-29-2012 10:35 AM

Front Lower Control Arms - Opinion(s) Wanted
 
I'd give you a penny for your thoughts, but with gas prices the way they are....

I'm jumping on the bandwagon a bit because I've been sitting on this issue for a while trying to feel out what I needed for my own sanity.

I finally decided I need to bite the bullet and get some front LCAs to help with my castor and, most importantly, the crazy steering at highway speeds. I have to get away from those coppers safely, don't I? I plan to possibly beat these off roading in SoCal, the Sierras (NorCal) and on the beach; maybe a bit of that "on-road" driving too ;) (by that I mean quite a bit). So I want a pair that lasts a while, and a brand I could trust should something happen.

A little background: ProComp 4" Stage I lift. I (think) it rides about 3.5" but I didn't have the original measurements.

Anyhow, I'd like some opinions for those with some experience using one of the following brands (ignore price for now):

Off Road Evolution (the brand in general seems more popular at jk-forum than here, big California following there?):
EVO Front LCAs

Currie JK FLCAS

Full Traction "Ultimate" Control arms
TeraFlex, FlexArms

Full-Traction Suspension 02-29-2012 10:45 AM

We sell all over the world, just not California ;)


Our control arms are made out of e 2in x .250in wall DOM steel tubing and use the same 4130 FK Chromoly Heim Joints with Teflon lining.

The frame side uses Clevite torsion rubber bushings.

What this really means, No grease and no maintenance. No noise either! We use the same heims and tubing as our Jeep speed kits, and KOH jeeps!

chris.george 02-29-2012 11:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Full-Traction Suspension (Post 2087457)
We sell all over the world, just not California ;)


Our control arms are made out of e 2in x .250in wall DOM steel tubing and use the same 4130 FK Chromoly Heim Joints with Teflon lining.

The frame side uses Clevite torsion rubber bushings.

What this really means, No grease and no maintenance. No noise either! We use the same heims and tubing as our Jeep speed kits, and KOH jeeps!

Thanks for the quick reply and info!

You must have a trigger for your name :whistling:

kbwwolf 02-29-2012 11:33 AM

x2 on the Full Traction stuff. Everything I've bought from them has been top-notch. :thumb:

chris.george 02-29-2012 02:20 PM

Thanks kbwwolf, your recommendations are always welcome!

TrueNorth 02-29-2012 02:41 PM

Terraflex LCA's are what I use.

Overbuilt is an understatement. Definitly more stable than the stock arms.
You'll need a 2" open end wrench for adjustment.
Haven't tried Full Traction so I can't comment.

kjeeper10 02-29-2012 02:53 PM

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Originally Posted by TrueNorth
Terraflex LCA's are what I use.

Overbuilt is an understatement. Definitly more stable than the stock arms.
You'll need a 2" open end wrench for adjustment.
Haven't tried Full Traction so I can't comment.

2nd that.

Those things are beefy.

the Kolector 02-29-2012 03:09 PM

I just installed Synergy LCA's, no offense to Full Traction or their product, bought from EAD Offroad. Put on an adj front trackbar as well over the weekend. No comparison to the stock garbage that was on there.

Sueby 02-29-2012 03:13 PM

I bought a set of Rusty's because of a couple recommendations I got here. Haven't put them on yet though...

Full-Traction Suspension 02-29-2012 03:23 PM

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Check out our lower heim joints. These kit has been on 4wd hardware team 311 TJ after 5 years of competition use.


I took this picture before the jeep entered into the King of the Hammers race.

http://sphotos.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-..._7319826_n.jpg

Full-Traction Suspension 02-29-2012 03:37 PM

The TJ was reborn to this rig at KOH
http://a8.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphot...29915572_n.jpg

chris.george 02-29-2012 03:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Full-Traction Suspension (Post 2088374)
Check out our lower heim joints. These kit has been on 4wd hardware team 311 TJ after 5 years of competition use.


I took this picture before the jeep entered into the King of the Hammers race.

http://sphotos.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-..._7319826_n.jpg

Thanks Chris, that actually helps a lot to put it into perspective!

Full-Traction Suspension 02-29-2012 04:17 PM

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This is what they look like new, you can see how much has been ground down.

chris.george 02-29-2012 08:30 PM

So far i'm leaning towards Full Traction now.

Does anyone know if there might be any ill-effects of a "hodge podge" system i.e. Pro Comp lift with other manufacturers products, and how it might affect the ride, etc? Mostly a curiosity question because I've also been debating replacing the springs and shocks to improve the ride as well. Maybe an adjustable track bar if I feel the bump steer is unruly.

Thanks for all the feedback!

the Kolector 03-01-2012 10:13 AM

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Originally Posted by chris.george (Post 2089493)
So far i'm leaning towards Full Traction now.

Does anyone know if there might be any ill-effects of a "hodge podge" system i.e. Pro Comp lift with other manufacturers products, and how it might affect the ride, etc? Mostly a curiosity question because I've also been debating replacing the springs and shocks to improve the ride as well. Maybe an adjustable track bar if I feel the bump steer is unruly.

Thanks for all the feedback!

I don't know if there would be any ill-effects matching various components together. On one hand, each company tests and develops its components to work with it's other components. On the other I would think, though, that you can mix and match and not have any real issues.

Full-Traction Suspension 03-01-2012 10:19 AM

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Originally Posted by chris.george (Post 2089493)
So far i'm leaning towards Full Traction now.

Does anyone know if there might be any ill-effects of a "hodge podge" system i.e. Pro Comp lift with other manufacturers products, and how it might affect the ride, etc? Mostly a curiosity question because I've also been debating replacing the springs and shocks to improve the ride as well. Maybe an adjustable track bar if I feel the bump steer is unruly.

Thanks for all the feedback!


Control arms will not matter. These go from shorter than stock to longer than stock.

You need to watch when your using one companys coils with another ones track bars or drop brackets, pitman arms etc.

willee51 03-01-2012 06:04 PM

Well.......
 
............ I only have a 2"spacer-lift and 285/75 X 17 tires, but I seem to have just a SMALL bit of steering drift over 50-mph.

So I am "considering" LCA's and if I do go this direction, they will be Full-Traction. Thier Quality is A+

chris.george 03-01-2012 09:26 PM

Related, why is everyone up-in-arms about the Johnny Joints? The only big reason I can see is the extra degrees of movement (30 vs 22).

StrizzyChris 08-24-2012 11:03 PM

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Originally Posted by willee51 (Post 2092254)
............ I only have a 2"spacer-lift and 285/75 X 17 tires, but I seem to have just a SMALL bit of steering drift over 50-mph.

So I am "considering" LCA's and if I do go this direction, they will be Full-Traction. Thier Quality is A+

Control arms will not correct steering drift. They will help by making the ride smother though. Steering complications on a lifted vehicle come from track bar, and drag link alignment problems. They are calibrated at perfect length to run stock suspension. Go outside of that ride height and you will be moving your axle left or right of center, under the vehicle. This will cause drift.

You could have something wrong with your tires also causing this.


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