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Ris8 03-01-2012 12:43 PM

Door skins... really this difficult?
 
So I finally broke down & got some replacement upper door skins after every single aspect of my originals (1997) have failed. I put it off as long as I could & haven't been able to use a drive thru window for several years now.

Watched a YouTube video, looked at folks' experiences, waited for a warm day w/ sunshine, generally did my homework.

Got a set of darn near new Rampage from a local Jeep resell/salvage. Are the skins supposed to look 1-2" smaller than the frame? I'm using a nut driver trying to pry it around the bottom corners, but nothing's getting me remotely close.

Any suggestions at all on where I went wrong? :banghead:
Gonna rest my arms for a minute.
Thanks for any help. I appreciate it.

Tjdude08 03-01-2012 01:04 PM

Yes they really are that hard to put on. Best I can say is let then get really warm an it will stretch took me almost an hour to learn the first one then second was a little easier. And it took 3 people

Good luck

Ris8 03-01-2012 01:09 PM

Thanks Tjdude08. I was seriously starting to doubt whether I was incompetent.
Darn that YouTube guy! He made it look easier than getting a pillowcase on a pillow. More like getting a feral cat in a pillowcase for me.

I'll let them sun a bit more & enlist the hubby when he gets home. He's worth at least 2 people, so I ought to be good, right?

Thanks again, I appreciate the comment.

Tjdude08 03-01-2012 01:18 PM

Yea you aren't doing anything wrong. If you read the instructions there is a certain order the corners go on and that os true. It'z not going on in antithetic order.

It takes a lot of patience, which I don't have, and stretching and moving and grunting and groaning and you will get them on. I actually just out mind on a month ago.

Ris8 03-01-2012 01:24 PM

Mine were used (supposedly, looked brand new compared to my seriously decrepit ones) so I didn't get a set of instructions. Fella at the shop was helpful though w/ tip of getting 1 bottom edge in, then the other, then the top & using a soft-tipped tool for prying.

Just looks so small compared to frame. Don't guess I can put them in the oven, can I? Kidding...

Tjdude08 03-01-2012 01:30 PM

You could put them in nut not sire how th outcome will be lol.

Look online for instructions because it like put the front corner in then back bottom then top front then top rear. I can't remember. But im sure there is somewhere online that has them

Ris8 03-01-2012 01:35 PM

Just found it. Thanks man!
If this doesn't work, in the oven they'll go. Maybe a streusel topping?

Tjdude08 03-01-2012 01:38 PM

Glad to hear.

Heck yes to struesel

TJake01 03-01-2012 01:42 PM

pretty much a huge pain in the butt mine still don't quite fit right. took me a while to do and I still need to try to adjust them.

Crazyflyingplastics 03-01-2012 01:45 PM

Try a shoe horn, heard that helps. the door skins really suck to put on. I've had to do it twice. When it was 95 degrees out in texas, it still was a pain. My hands and fingers were freaking raw trying to stretch it. Lots of cursing too

Ris8 03-01-2012 01:48 PM

Just went out & broke a sweat again. Rampage instructions said unzip 1st, wrestling order: rear bottom, front top, front bottom, rear top.

I swear it looks like it's 2" too small. Grrrrr.....
Thanks too, TJake01. Glad y'all aren't saying, "Oh, it's easy. Shouldn't take more than a minute. No sweat." I'm heartened by hearing it's not fun for anyone.
Maybe we all ought to get together & build a better mousetrap?

Ris8 03-01-2012 01:50 PM

Hey Crazyflyingplastics in TX! Ok, now to find a shoehorn.

It's definitely not 95 in GA today. Low 70s. Probably part of my problem even though they're lying on a metal truck tailgate in the sun.

Yep, same here w/ fingers & hands. I've got the cursing down pat though. Years of practice. :)

fan of fanboys 03-01-2012 01:54 PM

I've never done door skins but I've done windows 4 times. I wouldn't have guessed doors were that much harder. Ha glad I know before I bought some. Windows pretty easy.

Edit* just realized you are talking about the windows. Try this video. Helped me. Like I've said I've done 4 windows total, both times brand new, and each time only took a few minutes each. Gotta unzip. Practically impossible without. I'm the first comment on the video too. Afloyd


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DGesU...e_gdata_player

Crazyflyingplastics 03-01-2012 01:56 PM

haha, when I first saw someone mention shoe horn, I thought that would work perfectly. Then I thought, who the heck uses shoe horns and I don't don't have one sitting around. Unzipping windows did help. You'll probably notice the window rubber seals will stick out a bit when the doors are closed. at least they did the both times I did it. They still seal, but doesn't look that great

jerladd 03-01-2012 01:58 PM

Sun, sun, and more sun. The more heat they get on them the easier it'll be to get them on. Well easy isn't the exact term but maybe "less difficult." Good luck and I hope your fingers aren't too sore tomorrow.

Imped 03-01-2012 01:58 PM

In the thousands of hours I have working under a Jeep, this is by far the most difficult and frustrating job I've ever encountered. I'd rather be kicked in the face by a donkey than try to install another set.

Ris8 03-01-2012 02:01 PM

Thanks everybody!
Haha! I've given up hunting for a shoehorn & am now looking for a donkey, Imped. Getting kicked in the face does sound like the better option.

fan of fanboys 03-01-2012 02:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ris8
Thanks everybody!
Haha! I've given up hunting for a shoehorn & am now looking for a donkey Imped. Getting kicked in the face does sound like the better option.

Try the video I posted. It helped me a ton. Starting correct corner, unzipping window, and rolling instead of pulling.

Ris8 03-01-2012 02:41 PM

That was the 1st thing I found on YouTube, fan of fanboys. Nice execution, although I'm not having nearly the luck as in the video.

Will try heating it & give it another go as per video.
See you're from SC. Eat some hash at Bessinger's for me next time you're there. They don't have that kind of stuff in north GA.

fan of fanboys 03-01-2012 02:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ris8
That was the 1st thing I found on YouTube, fan of fanboys. Nice execution, although I'm not having nearly the luck as in the video.

Will try heating it & give it another go as per video.
See you're from SC. Eat some hash at Bessinger's for me next time you're there. They don't have that kind of stuff in north GA.

For me the rolling got it over quickly. Then at last second used that strip to pull. Just what worked for me.

I've heard of them but never been. I do love Hudson's smokehouse tho.

Kevbz 03-01-2012 03:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Crazyflyingplastics
Try a shoe horn, heard that helps. the door skins really suck to put on. I've had to do it twice. When it was 95 degrees out in texas, it still was a pain. My hands and fingers were freaking raw trying to stretch it. Lots of cursing too

Lol, my hands felt like I had climbed the most extreme mountain face, twice!

I grabbed my wifes hairdryer to help, she once you get a corner, don't undo since you made it that far. My first corner was the one by the mirror, then the one above it, then the lower rear, then finally (as in half hour later of trying ) rolled the top back corner. Imped is so right, about 100 other things I'd rather do than windows!

Ris8 03-01-2012 03:35 PM

Yes Kevbz, mountain climbing. That's exactly what my hands feel like.

I was thinking hair dryer too. 4 hours later, 2 small rips starting in fabric. Hubby has really strong hands & arms. Does HVAC & lifts 300 lb things daily. He can't get it either.

About to give up hope & throw a tarp over it for the night.

Kevbz 03-01-2012 06:17 PM

when I put my top on for the first time I swore there was no way it would fit, the rear sails the attach at the rear corners, at least 10" away from hooking.

I do believe i ripped a small corner also when all was said and done

dcstewart 03-01-2012 06:34 PM

Use a hair dryer. I ripped my driver side. Sucks.

TJake01 03-08-2012 07:08 PM

I ripped my passenger side....sucks..bit doesn't leak there.

DevilDogDoc 03-08-2012 09:17 PM

Rampage huh? My Bestop uppers(Sailcloth) were a major pain in the ass to get on but never came close to ripping.....


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