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Tros 03-05-2012 08:20 PM

Hello & Questions
 
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First off, I'd just like to say hello. You guys seem to have a great web community, and I look forward to being a part of it. For the record I have a 1995 Jeep Wrangler with a 2.5L; 2.5" Rough Country lift; 30's; smittybuilt front & rear bumpers; XRC Winch.

I do have a handful of questions I'm sure you guys can help me out with.
- I have half doors with a soft top and it is incredibly difficult to put on and take up the top soft section; sliding in the rods fight me for every cm. I have lubed them up hoping to make the transition easier, but it turns into an absolute brute-fest to remove the things. Any advice there?

- My ride quality is intensely rigid. Driving over a man hole cover will result in a hard, slightly bouncy jolt. I don't expect a smooth ride, but I have been in old 1 tons that rode smoother than my YJ; Is the kit to blame or is something over-torqued? I don't mind puttin' around with my 4 banger too much, but the rigid ride is something of a challenge to make the jeep enjoyable.

- What kind of prices would a person typically expect to pick up used full steel doors?

Thank you in advance, and I hope you guys can clear some things up for me.

Nubby55 03-05-2012 08:58 PM

Welcome , nice Jeep , and sorry no comment.

Tros 03-05-2012 09:15 PM

Thank you, just the same.

1BadAssJeep 03-05-2012 09:19 PM

Pull the doors off and spray with break cleaner. Maybe use a wire brush. Then squirt it down with wd40. Your suspension is gonna be a little stiff unless you spend a decent amount of money on a good suspension.

blazerone22 03-05-2012 10:57 PM

Welcome! I'm fairly new also... Theres a ton of good information here... If you still are running your track bars take them off, your ride will inprove... And you do not need them...

Tros 03-05-2012 11:05 PM

I've noticed that advice floating around, blazerone22. Thank you. 1BadAssJeep, I've hosed the area down with wd-40 with little effect. It's a tight fit.

BT 03-06-2012 12:01 AM

Welcome to the board and your new addiction! :D in Ohio I'm seeing doors in good condition going for about $500 to $700... Don't know about over your way but good luck!

95YamJam 03-06-2012 06:34 AM

I gained a lot better ride with my 2.5" lift by making sure the spring shackles are troqued to 45 ft lbs. Also no trac or sway bars. Also make sure your tires are not over inflated. I am runing 22 psi on my 32" km2's.

Still rides like a jeep but a lot better than it was before.
Welcome!

Xpress 03-06-2012 12:32 PM

Did you remove the useless track bars? Or did you leave them on?

If you leave them on then your ride will be significantly rougher because the track bars cause the leafs to bind up when they try to flex, which in turn stiffens the entire suspension. They aren't needed on leaf spring vehicles, Chrysler put them on so that the Wrangler would sell. It was a marketing gimmick because of the "issue" (there was no issue in the first place) of the CJ being "easy to tip over". It was a band aid for the GP.

Frenz 03-06-2012 01:00 PM

Welcome to the WF. as far as lubing the top.. use graphite.. commonly used quite successfully for sticky cables on motorcycles in a spray can or just buy the grease.. u choose.. much better than WD-40 *BA is absolutely right about brake cleaner and wire.. but soft wire you don't wanna gouge the metal.. maybe steel wool.

BT 03-06-2012 02:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Xpress (Post 2110029)
Did you remove the useless track bars? Or did you leave them on?

If you leave them on then your ride will be significantly rougher because the track bars cause the leafs to bind up when they try to flex, which in turn stiffens the entire suspension. They aren't needed on leaf spring vehicles, Chrysler put them on so that the Wrangler would sell. It was a marketing gimmick because of the "issue" (there was no issue in the first place) of the CJ being "easy to tip over". It was a band aid for the GP.

I my self feel dumb for asking this as much as I have been around Jeeps and trucks.. i don't know which bar is my track bar and sway bar. I want to remove them since they aren't really needed..

Xpress 03-06-2012 02:32 PM

The sway bar keeps your body relative to the axles, it improves road handling. You will want it on there incase you have to make a sudden lane change or someone tries to run you off the road. The sway bar is on the front axle, it mounts to the frame on both sides, and has a connecting rod that mounts to the front axle, again on both sides. This does limit the flex of the front axle but that is easily solved by adding quick disconnects to disconnect the bar entirely from the front axle.

The track bars on the other hand are utterly useless on a vehicle with leaf springs. They are bolted to one side of the frame then ran to the opposite side of the vehicle where they are bolted to the axle. They are required on coil sprung vehicles, because the axle can shift left and right with coil springs. The nature of leaf springs doesn't allow them to shift left or right so the track bar only causes binding due to the way the axle pivots with leaf springs.

Charley24 03-06-2012 05:45 PM

Check your shocks also. My YJ is similar to yours and rode like a buckboard. It had E-3000 Pro Comp shocks that were really stiff. I changed to Skyjacker Hydro's (NOT NITRO'S!) loosened shackles and re-torqued to 45, and took off the track bars. It made a world of difference!! And 95 YAM JAM is right on the tire pressure!

mcseang 03-06-2012 08:59 PM

as far as the rough ride goes i can tell you what i did when i installed the lift 3 weeks ago. make sure that the shackle bolts were not torqued while the suspension was not loaded. loosen all the shackel bolts then bounce the front and rear of the jeep by standing on the bumpers front then rear. let the suspension cycle several times then torque the shackel bolts and you should notice an immediate improvement.

Tros 03-06-2012 11:42 PM

Thank you all for the replies. I have my tires at 30 lbs. Is that really still too high?

Yes, I still have the trac bars on. Honestly, I started to remove the rear one day, and I could get the lower part removed, but I was having a hell of a time with the upper connection of the trac bar; I am sure there are some simple pictorial guides of the removal process, or tips.

Can you guys recommend an affordable torque wrench so I can re-torque the bolts?

Also, the Jeep has the base Rough Country shock absorbers; how much of a culprit can these shocks be on my ride quality? If they are a prime possiblity, what are some budget friendly alternatives?

I am saving up for a wedding, so budgeting is a priority.

95YamJam 03-07-2012 06:25 AM

Getting the trac bars off will not be pretty. I pretty much just destroyed mine to get them off. Sawzall, torch whatever there.

30 psi on the tires could be too high. I played with mine til I got good contact path and it's 22psi. Mine are mud terrains though so it may depend on your tires. My tires are load range c tires which are ment for a full size truck not a really light jeep.

I have the base RC shocks too. My ride improved a lot with the spring bolt retorque. Maybe the shocks coulld improve it but I am not trying new ones til mine are shot.

Advance auto sells pretty decent torque wrenches for a decent price. I got a 250 ft lb one there for $50 IIRC and I tested it with my buddies certified snap on and it was right on the money. Won't last forever if treated badly but for the $....

Charley24 03-07-2012 09:14 AM

Tires are deffinitely too high. Mine are at 22 also. Spray the trac bar bolts with liquid wrench for a couple of days and use a impact driver to loosen the bolts. It aint easy!

Tros 03-07-2012 11:24 AM

I appreciate all of the great input from everybody. I will have to start tinkering when the weather clears up. Thank you.

blazerone22 03-07-2012 11:59 AM

I found it easier to pull my rear shocks off just to get them out of the way when pulling my rear track bar...

CaseAce000 03-09-2012 04:57 AM

Just in case anyone is unsure of what or where track bar is located this might help

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v1...break-down.jpg

CaseAce000 03-09-2012 04:58 AM

FYI, this is off a TJ, but the track bar on a YJ are in the same spot


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