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oIIIIIIo 03-05-2012 09:04 PM

Gear not shifting after sye and tummy tuck?
 
I just completed my sye, tummy tuck, and adjustment of the rear upper control arms.

I just went out for a test drive and it seems to me that the gear is not shifting to 2nd or 3rd. I am only able to go about 33-40mph and it gets really loud. I am not sure what I did wrong.

Do I need to replace my spedo gear again? I replaced it when I put in the 33" tires I'm not sure if I need to get a different spedo gear again.

My Banks exhaust seems to be a lot more louder than before could it be that I took out the pipes after the muffler? It was getting in the way with the tummy tuck.

Any thoughts?

oIIIIIIo 03-05-2012 09:51 PM

I hope I don't have to open my t-case again for this.

Any thoughts... anyone?

Cdavidsonrzr 03-05-2012 10:17 PM

Any check engine light and does your speedo work

Overthink 03-05-2012 10:28 PM

I'm interested in following this...sounds like u may have the exhaust restricted Didn't bend anything in the install, did ya

oIIIIIIo 03-05-2012 11:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Cdavidsonrzr (Post 2108123)
Any check engine light and does your speedo work


No engine check light and yes the spedo gear did work.

oIIIIIIo 03-05-2012 11:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Overthink (Post 2108197)
I'm interested in following this...sounds like u may have the exhaust restricted Didn't bend anything in the install, did ya


Nothing got bend during the process.

oIIIIIIo 03-05-2012 11:26 PM

I am wondering if the kick down tension cable need to be adjusted after the tummy tuck.

Someone chime in?

Cdavidsonrzr 03-06-2012 12:02 AM

Possable. Make sure you didnt kink the fuel like by the contol arms too. Also make sure nothing got knocked off motor if you let it hang real low. Like a vacume line.

Cdavidsonrzr 03-06-2012 12:06 AM

Or the throttle possition sensor

Imped 03-06-2012 07:29 AM

As you probably realize by now, this isn't a "bolt up and go" procedure. Take a look at your exhaust--it's no longer sitting happily neutral and is probably cocked up toward the passenger side. I bet it's also touching the passenger side front upper control arm frame mount. You need to lower the transmission hanger at the t-case mount to sit the exhaust back into its neutral state.

As for the transmission, have you looked at the linkage? THINK about what you just did--you just radically changed the relationship between the tub and drivetrain....t-case and transmission linkages rely on that relationship. So you'll need to make adjustments in order to compensate. Speaking of the t-case linkage, you'll learn to hate the overly complicated Z linkage....take a look at the Novak cable shifter. Simple and awesome.

Check to make sure you don't have any interference between the tub and drivetrain....that'll cause some serious noise since it's effectively negating the body mounts' absorption.

TheTJRod 03-06-2012 08:24 AM

Can you shift the tcase? Having a top speed of 40 and being really loud sounds like your in 4low

oIIIIIIo 03-06-2012 11:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Imped (Post 2109071)
As you probably realize by now, this isn't a "bolt up and go" procedure. Take a look at your exhaust--it's no longer sitting happily neutral and is probably cocked up toward the passenger side. I bet it's also touching the passenger side front upper control arm frame mount. You need to lower the transmission hanger at the t-case mount to sit the exhaust back into its neutral state.

As for the transmission, have you looked at the linkage? THINK about what you just did--you just radically changed the relationship between the tub and drivetrain....t-case and transmission linkages rely on that relationship. So you'll need to make adjustments in order to compensate. Speaking of the t-case linkage, you'll learn to hate the overly complicated Z linkage....take a look at the Novak cable shifter. Simple and awesome.

Check to make sure you don't have any interference between the tub and drivetrain....that'll cause some serious noise since it's effectively negating the body mounts' absorption.

The transmission hanger, how does it look like? I did not make any adjust to this one.

I forgot to mention that I also installed the Novak cable shifter during the belly up procedure. I am able to shift it into all the 4wd mode.

oIIIIIIo 03-06-2012 11:13 AM

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Originally Posted by TheTJRod (Post 2109241)
Can you shift the tcase? Having a top speed of 40 and being really loud sounds like your in 4low


Yes, I can shift the tcase into each mode without any problems.

The 4wd indicator lights would light up if I was in 4hi or 4lo, but they were not on.

TheTJRod 03-06-2012 11:28 AM

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Originally Posted by oIIIIIIo (Post 2109733)
I forgot to mention that I also installed the Novak cable shifter during the belly up procedure. I am able to shift it into all the 4wd mode.

Makes my point moot.

oIIIIIIo 03-06-2012 11:39 AM

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Originally Posted by TheTJRod (Post 2109823)
Makes my point moot.


Thanks for your input....

I am wondering now, could I have made a mistake that when I installed the cable shifter the tcase gear got put into 4hi or 4lo without knowing it?

Jeep_guy3 03-06-2012 11:48 AM

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Originally Posted by oIIIIIIo

Thanks for your input....

I am wondering now, could I have made a mistake that when I installed the cable shifter the tcase gear got put into 4hi or 4lo without knowing it?

It's possible, I just installed my Novak last night and was afraid of this problem so I made sure to double check everything before tightening things up.

When in 2hi at the lever make sure the little arm shifter on the tcase itself is pointing towards the front of the jeep (it was easy to do move by throwing a socket on the nut that holds that arm on and trying to tighten it)

Imped 03-06-2012 12:03 PM

If you're really in 4low, it should be immediately evident....if that's the case, don't try to set any speed records until you figure it out.

As for the exhaust hanger.....it's the exhaust hanger @ the passenger side of the transmission mount. Not sure how else to describe it. Pretty obvious.

oIIIIIIo 03-06-2012 12:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Imped (Post 2109933)
If you're really in 4low, it should be immediately evident....if that's the case, don't try to set any speed records until you figure it out.

As for the exhaust hanger.....it's the exhaust hanger @ the passenger side of the transmission mount. Not sure how else to describe it. Pretty obvious.


If I was in 4lo the indicator light would be lit on the dash, but it is not on.

Exhaust hanger...is that the one with the black rubber bushing like?

Imped 03-06-2012 12:17 PM

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Originally Posted by oIIIIIIo (Post 2109957)
If I was in 4lo the indicator light would be lit on the dash, but it is not on.

And you'd be scrubbing when turning, steering wouldn't be responsive, it'd be slower, and it would generally drive like crap on dry pavement.
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Originally Posted by oIIIIIIo (Post 2109957)
Exhaust hanger...is that the one with the black rubber bushing like?

Yes. Exhaust hanger = piece that the exhaust hangs from. Lower it and you'll lower the exhaust down.

That's totally besides your transmission issue, though. It sounds like you could be pinching a line......just use your eyes and look closely at everything. Transmission not shifting well + loud = something is touching.

oIIIIIIo 03-06-2012 12:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Imped (Post 2109968)
And you'd be scrubbing when turning, steering wouldn't be responsive, it'd be slower, and it would generally drive like crap on dry pavement.

Yes. Exhaust hanger = piece that the exhaust hangs from. Lower it and you'll lower the exhaust down.

Got it....thanks

That's totally besides your transmission issue, though. It sounds like you could be pinching a line......just use your eyes and look closely at everything. Transmission not shifting well + loud = something is touching.

Hmmm...I don't even know where to start looking now.

I did not check my transmission fluid after the tt, maybe that is low and causing the tranny not to shift.

Imped 03-06-2012 12:29 PM

I doubt it's a fluid issue....if it was shifting fine before the tuck, the slightly flatter angle shouldn't make any difference. You need to start by getting under the Jeep and making sure NOTHING is contacting or pinched at the tub. Set a jack stand under the bell housing, unbolt the skid, and drop it. It's not rocket science man....this is happening for a reason. Find that reason and fix it. When you support the transmission, make sure the drivetrain is sitting close to where it's sitting now so that if the problem is a pinched line, it'll be exposed. If you let the drivetrain drop down 3" to sit on a jackstand, it could very well fix itself and you'll miss it. Hell, toss the stock skid on and go for a short drive. Then at least you'll know it's related to raising the drivetrain.

oIIIIIIo 03-06-2012 06:29 PM

Thanks...I will take a look at it later today or tomorrow if it is not too dark.

htkrph 03-06-2012 07:11 PM

You have the auto i6? man i hope you figure it out. i'm doing mine soon. i got my SYE in the mail today, waiting on CV and upper control arms. Did your lift have the transfer case relocation bracket or thing came with it? i keep wondering if i can take mine off once the SYE/CV and the arms go in.

oIIIIIIo 03-07-2012 03:18 AM

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Originally Posted by htkrph (Post 2111347)
You have the auto i6? man i hope you figure it out. i'm doing mine soon. i got my SYE in the mail today, waiting on CV and upper control arms. Did your lift have the transfer case relocation bracket or thing came with it? i keep wondering if i can take mine off once the SYE/CV and the arms go in.


The teraflex lift did not come with the tc relocation bracket. I got rid of my stock linkage and installed the Novak cable shifter.

oIIIIIIo 03-09-2012 08:35 AM

*******Updates************

Everything is fixed now. The throttle valve was out of adjustment from the tummy tuck. I adjusted the TV cable and the transmission is shifting properly now.

ipleadda2nd 04-11-2012 12:16 PM

Tummy tuck and no 4 Low
 
Gee wiz, wrong thread. Sorry.


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