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Arch Stanton 03-10-2012 10:16 AM

Does the track bar affect the alignment?
 
I took my 04 TJ Sport to have the alignment done by a chain outfit that does auto parts and does auto repair. First they told me that my tires were cupping because of my old shocks. My old OEM gas shocks were still good, but I had a BB installed, so I had the OME shocks installed as well. According to them, they could do the alignment because the track bar on the driver's side has play. I told them that I had the track bar, tie rod, tie rod end, drag link, and steering stabilizer replaced last July, so they should be able to do an alignment with no problem. However, the mechanic said that the track bar joint is bad on the drivers side and there is play. The track bar is a made-in-the-U.S.A. one from Autozone. I told him that you could only adjust the toe on a TJ, but he said that the play in the track bar would not allow the toe to be properly adjusted. This same place talked my friend into allowing them to install adjustable ball joints in order for them to do the alignment. I don't have time to do the alignment myself, so I'm going to have to look for another shop. I'm going to have to go to Tucson and look for a place that is open on Saturdays and knows how to align Jeeps. I bought a set of MT MTZ 31" tires back in November and want to get as much life out of them as possible.

TJ-Mike 03-10-2012 10:30 AM

I am new in learning all of this stuff, but I believe that the tie rod impacts alignment, not the track bar. You adjust the tie rod length to adjust the toe-in. I agree, find a new shop.

TJ-Mike 03-10-2012 10:31 AM

Better yet, this is something you can do yourself in a matter of minutes. Search the forum from the last few days and you will find a thread on how to do it.

Arch Stanton 03-10-2012 11:24 AM

Yesterday, was the first that I heard of a track bar affecting the toe-in set. I really don't just the competence of these guys, but I live in a one-horse town and they are the only ones with an alignment machine. I didn't want to go out of town because I'd have to wait until the weekends if my Jeep was out of alignment. I have some time off in a week, and I might try to do-it-yourself alignment. I think that I would just need to get the square tubing and some clamps. I have a floor jack and jack stands hand and craftsman tool set. I've done oil changes in the past and a shock installation and a few other minor things on a Nissan truck, so should be able to tackle a basic alignment. Thanks for the comments! Have a good day!

WaterDR 03-10-2012 11:39 AM

Do this. Very carefully measure the distance from the front of the tires and compare to the back. The front of the tires should point in about an 1/8th of an inch closer than the back of the front tires. That will tell you how far off it is at least. Toe in and track bar adjustment are the only things you can do on an otherwise stock jeep.

50Johnbob 03-10-2012 01:11 PM

This should help,
TJ Toe-in Alignment - 1

Arch Stanton 03-10-2012 01:13 PM

I don't have an adjustable track bar. Can the stock track bar be adjusted? I read this: Basic Jeep Front End Alignment and didn't see any adjustment of the track bar. Thanks for the information! Have a good one!



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Originally Posted by WaterDR (Post 2124877)
Do this. Very carefully measure the distance from the front of the tires and compare to the back. The front of the tires should point in about an 1/8th of an inch closer than the back of the front tires. That will tell you how far off it is at least. Toe in and track bar adjustment are the only things you can do on an otherwise stock jeep.


Imped 03-10-2012 01:30 PM

Play in the track bar is bad.....Autozone parts are generally crap, as are most parts store parts. Fix it. As for not being able to dial in toe because of it, that's crap. That guy doesn't know what he's talking about. It's not rocket science, do it yourself.

Arch Stanton 03-10-2012 01:41 PM

I don't believe that there is play in the track bar. It's made in the U.S.A. and is most likely made by Moog. Many of their other parts are Chinese junk like Pep Boys sells. I agree with you that they are full of it. I'm going do find somewhere else or try to do it myself. Thanks for the help!

UnlimitedLJ04 03-10-2012 01:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Arch Stanton (Post 2125141)
I don't believe that there is play in the track bar. It's made in the U.S.A. and is most likely made by Moog. Many of their other parts are Chinese junk like Pep Boys sells. I agree with you that they are full of it. I'm going do find somewhere else or try to do it myself. Thanks for the help!

the track bar doesn't effect camber, caster or toe, but track bar length will effect steer ahead.

my friend bought a drag link, TRE's and track bar from MOOG because of the claimed quality...they last a year. I keep hearing of MOOG parts going bad earlier, and apparently the quality has declined over the past few years. thats why when I replaced ball joints & steering for my HP D30, I went with NAPA, not MOOG.

Arch Stanton 03-10-2012 04:05 PM

I've read that the Moog ball joints are not as good as before. Thanks for the info!

Imped 03-10-2012 05:39 PM

Moog quality is MUCH worse than what it once was. That name no longer means anything. If you want quality stuff, go to O'Reilly or Napa. Or better yet, move away from the stock track bar completely.

Arch Stanton 03-10-2012 07:19 PM

I thought about getting an adjustable TB but don't want clearance issues with the new diff covers.


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