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NFRs2000NYC 03-12-2012 05:15 PM

JKU Hardtop Hoisting Question
 
Hey guys, the summer is fast approaching, and living the the NY/NJ area, the rain makes it necessary to put the top on and off all the time. I am trying to make it as easy as possible.

I was looking at getting a motorized hardtop hoist to make it a one man job, and 1,2,3 easy. However, I have a question. What you "hoist" the top, what do you attach the hoist to? I don't see anywhere where you can hook onto the top.

Any suggestions? Also, how high do you need to actually lift the top? I remember my friend had a YJ, with a hardtop, and he made a homemade "hoist" out of 4 ratchet straps. He "hoisted" the top about 2" off the truck, and drove the truck out. To put it on, reverse it in, lower the top, and presto. I see some people saying you need an 9' ceiling, blah blah blah, etc.

So, any advice, steering me to a good lift without breaking the bank, etc would be very helpful. Thanks fellas!

shredd_guy 03-12-2012 05:37 PM

125 bucks sound about right? check this out

http://www.wranglerforum.com/f33/jus...top-74362.html

damon.l 03-12-2012 05:41 PM

^i used the same exact hoist. works great. i had to do some tinkering with the line length to get everything right but overall it did a great job.

NFRs2000NYC 03-12-2012 05:53 PM

Ok interesting. I'm still trying to see where a regular hardtop with no rack can be "hooked" and lifted from.

cavsvet74 03-12-2012 07:20 PM

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Originally Posted by NFRs2000NYC (Post 2132604)
Ok interesting. I'm still trying to see where a regular hardtop with no rack can be "hooked" and lifted from.

Like so:
http://i1111.photobucket.com/albums/...t74/hoist1.jpg

Two straps on each side.

12JKUR 03-12-2012 08:22 PM

Got $20 and 20 minutes? Here ya go!

http://photos.texnet.com/thumbs//201...scaled_512.jpg

http://photos.texnet.com/thumbs//201...scaled_512.jpg

http://photos.texnet.com/thumbs//201...scaled_512.jpg


http://photos.texnet.com/thumbs//201...scaled_512.jpg

NFRs2000NYC 03-12-2012 09:56 PM

How did you slide those hooks in when the top was on the car?

Pomz623 03-12-2012 10:25 PM

what if you dont have a garage?

NFRs2000NYC 03-12-2012 11:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Pomz623 (Post 2133950)
what if you dont have a garage?

Well you need a place to mount the hoist, so without a garage, I don't see what you could do. Furthermore, if you don't have a garage, where would you store the top?

CaliRubicon 03-13-2012 12:02 AM

Love the rancor. Easy to install and easy for one person to use. The rack doubles as a place for my Bimini and other accessories. You could use a power drill to raise and lower but it is so smooth manually that I haven't tried. Thinking of getting a ledger one for extra gear. Great space saver.

NFRs2000NYC 03-13-2012 12:41 AM

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Originally Posted by CaliRubicon (Post 2134241)
Love the rancor. Easy to install and easy for one person to use. The rack doubles as a place for my Bimini and other accessories. You could use a power drill to raise and lower but it is so smooth manually that I haven't tried. Thinking of getting a ledger one for extra gear. Great space saver.

Does it come with that stick thing to wind it up/down? How do you do it with one person, if one has to wind the other to guide the top down into position?

StaceyOverbeck 03-13-2012 02:04 AM

i used the same exact hoist. works great
http://www.australialuxe.info/013-1.jpg

RBrown9180 03-13-2012 05:49 AM

You could EASILY make a setup with a couple of small pulleys, some 3/8 manilla rope and a couple of basic knots. Bet it would cost <$35 and a little ingenuity

positrak 03-13-2012 06:11 AM

For no garage\no roofers, I'm really liking this guy's idea (found on another forum), you could even incorporate say boat trailer rollers or any other roller scheme to aid in moving it onto the table and off etc. According to the info, these new JK rooves weigh a piddly 100 lbs, nothing to get it moving IMO.


http://i44.tinypic.com/650lfo.jpg


http://i42.tinypic.com/nv1ppx.jpg

Kssting 03-13-2012 07:02 AM

I have the rancor as well and it is easily worth the money. Once the top is connected and hoisted i feel safe enough to leave it there all season.

shredd_guy 03-13-2012 07:37 AM

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Originally Posted by kssting (Post 2134637)
i have the rancor as well and it is easily worth the money. Once the top is connected and hoisted i feel safe enough to leave it there all season.

plus you can throw your snow blower or lawn mower up there

Matador 03-13-2012 07:59 AM

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Originally Posted by 12JKUR (Post 2133244)
Got $20 and 20 minutes? Here ya go!

http://photos.texnet.com/thumbs//201...scaled_512.jpg

I'm trying this approach since I have a very low roof and could only lift the top a couple of inches off the Jeep, enough for me to drive away.

I do have one question when using the ratchet straps. How do you lower the top ? I'm thinking that if you release the straps its going to come crashing down very quickly, no?

JIMBOX 03-13-2012 09:10 AM

:whistling:--RACOR- the best way to go-

http://i294.photobucket.com/albums/m...sories/023.jpg

:dance::rofl: JIMBO

12JKUR 03-13-2012 09:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Matador (Post 2134737)
I'm trying this approach since I have a very low roof and could only lift the top a couple of inches off the Jeep, enough for me to drive away.

I do have one question when using the ratchet straps. How do you lower the top ? I'm thinking that if you release the straps its going to come crashing down very quickly, no?

Don't pull the release all the way and you can "un-ratchet" until they are all lowered. I only lift an inch or 2 - all that's needed and can still walk under it.

Do realize though, you may need a little stool to reach the ratchets (which I happen to carry anyway to dust/chamois off my hood). Still a one man job and no lifting.

BTW, the tie-downs make nice markers when backing up - no need for a 2nd person directing you...

http://photos.texnet.com/thumbs//201...scaled_512.jpg

Matador 03-13-2012 12:00 PM

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:whistling:--RACOR- the best way to go-

http://i294.photobucket.com/albums/m...sories/023.jpg

:dance::rofl: JIMBO

I agree Jim, Raycor is the best to go IF your using it as storage like you are OR if you have a large enough ceiling for it. Neither applies to me

http://images3a.snapfish.com/2323232...8%3A2349nu0mrj

NFRs2000NYC 03-13-2012 12:15 PM

Another question, what are the 4 points of a JKU top that you hoist from to keep the top straight and level while it's dangling in the air?

rays0852 03-13-2012 01:12 PM

Harken Hoist....FTMFW!

cavsvet74 03-13-2012 06:51 PM

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Originally Posted by NFRs2000NYC (Post 2134260)
Does it come with that stick thing to wind it up/down?

Yes.

Quote:

Originally Posted by NFRs2000NYC (Post 2134260)
How do you do it with one person, if one has to wind the other to guide the top down into position?

You just have to get it close. The sides of the top (in my case anyway) hang low enough I can use it as a guide to back the roll cage into. Using a drill on low speed helps also.

cavsvet74 03-13-2012 06:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Matador (Post 2135313)
I agree Jim, Raycor is the best to go IF your using it as storage like you are OR if you have a large enough ceiling for it. Neither applies to me

http://images3a.snapfish.com/2323232...8%3A2349nu0mrj

From what I see, it looks like the Racor is an option for you. How much room is behind the Jeep?

Relocate the extention cord and mount the hoist just behind the garage door opener.

aelwero 03-13-2012 07:11 PM

I put four boat cleats on my top and sealed em with RTV so I could strap up a cargo bag for tents n blankets and such. reckon I'll probably be grabbing a few pulleys and some line before too long now that I has a garage :)
http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7199/6...4c5c5399_z.jpg

NFRs2000NYC 03-14-2012 03:49 PM

Anyone have any experience with one of these???

Lange Originals Power Hoist-a-Top™ & Door Hanger Combo for 07-12 Jeep® Wrangler Unlimited JK 4 Door with 3 Piece Freedom Top™ - Quadratec

positrak 03-15-2012 08:03 AM

Looks suspect IMO :) that same electric winch is on sale at Haborfreight for 99 dollars. Don't know how much that framing can cost, but 400 dollars for the whole package? I'm more intruiged with the "door hanger". From past experience the doors are a pain in the azz, weighing in @ 60 lbs each. To get them off the door hinge you basicall hold it in a curling position at the top with the window open lift and stagger to the closest place to set it down. The picture of that fancy door hanger suggests it's well above ground level, meaning you got to bicep curl the door off the jeep, walk around it to the wall, then lift it up and above the hanger and set it down. And again for the other. If the doors are guaranteed to be off the entire season then okay if you got time and energy or some one to assist. But from experience the doors are never off for the entire season, so doing this and the reverse a couple times in the seaon seems like an incredible waste of time, energy and money. If you have it in a one car garange, set the door on either side against the wall, if bigger, walk it to the front wall on either side. put a towel on the ground lean the doors against the wall with a cloth or another towel at the top and be done.

Otherwise this 400 dollar contraption kit certainly looks very nice. :cool:

aelwero 03-21-2012 11:40 PM

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7071/6...ab11f6eca1.jpg

38 dollars :) does not include the boat cleats I already had bolted to my hard top...

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7176/6...c7d75a21f3.jpg

an hour or so, and voila.
Single point of failure load limit is the rope at 200 pounds. lowest load limit is the pulleys at 110 (there are 4 of them, one on each corner, and a bigger 300 pounder on the single down line), so if I hang it from a single hook, i might bust a pulley. hoisted it and bounced it around a bunch about 6" off the jeep while standing inside just in case, and no issues at all :). learned a couple things...

first, it's very hard to heave 110 pounds of hard top using a 5/16 nylon line (it can be hoisted as is, but it warn't easy, and the wife can't hoist it at all)... going to add a luff tackle as soon as I find one (or a 100# double pulley to make on out of) and bring it down to 30 pounds of pull or so.

secondly, and completely unrelated, is that if you have 33X12.5 tires on 15X 10 rims, they prevent the mirror ding if you let one of the doors fly open on accident :) (I was putting in door hanger hooks at the same time and had one off to check spacing. let the passenger side door open without the strap hooked up and thought I had matching dings on both sides, but the door bounced off the tire instead)
http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7130/7...896bb40b_c.jpg

kozmos 03-22-2012 12:06 AM

I installed the Racor hoist and pulled the top off by myself. Its a great one person setup. I used 2 ratchet straps from front to back it's still up after 3 days! I pulled the top then installed the new soft top. We're ready for the sun, 3 straight days of rain, 5+ inches of rain! I've moved on to the race car now...

JIMBOX 03-22-2012 08:24 AM

:thumb: Good safe move--congrats-


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Originally Posted by kozmos (Post 2167455)
I installed the Racor hoist and pulled the top off by myself. Its a great one person setup. I used 2 ratchet straps from front to back it's still up after 3 days! I pulled the top then installed the new soft top. We're ready for the sun, 3 straight days of rain, 5+ inches of rain! I've moved on to the race car now...

:dance::rofl: JIMBO


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