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Ben-o 03-19-2012 12:20 AM

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So I have done a bit of research and used a lot of scientific thinking and everything else and decided to buy a HHO kit from the mileage shop for $300 and decided if start a thread on the build.

First off if you want to tell me how stupid it is go ahead and tell me, I'll talk you down and out of thinking that way.

Okay second I'm a college student, and own a paintball field (I don't have a lot of time on my hands) but when I do I work on my jeep or for the past week or so putting this kit in.

Thanks for looking :)
Ben

O and this is my yj


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Ben-o 03-19-2012 12:24 AM

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So I started by pulling out all the ac hoses and junk that I didn't need (live in ny and have a soft top) this just gave me a lot more space to work. Also took off the jack mount (don't have the jack for it).


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Then as you can also see I did a little painting on the inner wall, and battery tray which was pretty nasty.

Ben-o 03-19-2012 12:32 AM

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Then I drilled a few holes and mounted the the cell in place


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Then I needed to make brackets for the water res. While making then...

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Kinda hurt a little, mounted the brackets and water res...everything fit good :)


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So I painted them as well and that's as far as I got today...tomorrow I start wiring everything in...hopefully


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Frenz 03-19-2012 12:47 AM

Sub'd :popcorn:

swamprat70785 03-19-2012 12:50 AM

Im interested in the results... subscribed ..

Jeep_Gypsy 03-19-2012 12:59 AM

Well now this is interesting. sub'd.

riceroni87 03-19-2012 01:35 AM

Subscribing!

Jaredaamy 03-19-2012 01:56 AM

Excited to hear about this subd!!

Ben-o 03-19-2012 06:53 AM

Cool glad to hear it :)

95YamJam 03-19-2012 07:09 AM

Couple local guys running hho kits in small pickups. They eneded up using the whole bed of the truck to give it any distance....

These are homemade kits though...

bhb121 03-19-2012 07:23 AM

Really interested in this! Subscribed

4Jeepn 03-19-2012 07:49 AM

While i can sort of figure out what this is.. um what does HHO stand for?

Ben-o 03-19-2012 08:02 AM

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Originally Posted by 95YamJam
Couple local guys running hho kits in small pickups. They eneded up using the whole bed of the truck to give it any distance....

These are homemade kits though...

Ya usually the homemade ones are a bit bigger...I mean its kinda hard to set this one up with the amount of space under the hood and compared to other vehicles espesacialy newer ones today my jeep has a lot of room

Ben-o 03-19-2012 08:05 AM

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Originally Posted by 4Jeepn
While i can sort of figure out what this is.. um what does HHO stand for?

Hydrogen hydrogen oxygen....in short your splitting water to creat hydrogen and oxygen to be pumped into the intake

kjg26 03-19-2012 10:52 AM

Can you briefly tell the pros and cons?

Ben-o 03-19-2012 12:29 PM

Pros:
Makes your engine more efficient anywhere between 25-50% (give or take) more efficient
So jeep that gets 16mpg could get 24mpg
Easy to maintain
Can work on winter
Cons:
Not much room in vehicles these days for these things even in the jeep which has a lot of room comparative is kinda hard to hit it in
And it's different for every engine as far as the mount of electrolyte and there isn't anything out there that tell you the best or the recommended amount for you vehicle or anything

swamprat70785 03-19-2012 01:54 PM

Is this just gonna give better fuel mileage or are there other benefits?

Ben-o 03-19-2012 03:16 PM

O ya there is an increase in horse power and torque also...something along the lines of 10-15 hp and 8 lbs of torque...kinda foggy on the torque number it's been awhile since I read it

swamprat70785 03-19-2012 03:53 PM

Sounds good.. when can we expect some results from the butt dyno and fuel mileage? ?

Ben-o 03-19-2012 04:19 PM

Na I'm not going to dyno it I'm just looking for the increase in mileage...they also say that using these types of systems will dramatically prolong the life of the engine...I keep forgetting stuff to add to the pros lol...it's been a long day already

TOKKIE 03-19-2012 04:42 PM

I'm just curious, how are you going to keep the computer (o2 sensors) from compensating. The computer will always try to run 14.7:1 air fuel mixture.

swamprat70785 03-19-2012 04:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Ben-o
Na I'm not going to dyno it I'm just looking for the increase in mileage...they also say that using these types of systems will dramatically prolong the life of the engine...I keep forgetting stuff to add to the pros lol...it's been a long day already

Didn't mean a real dyno.. just how it feels driving is all..lol

Ben-o 03-19-2012 05:46 PM

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Originally Posted by TOKKIE
I'm just curious, how are you going to keep the computer (o2 sensors) from compensating. The computer will always try to run 14.7:1 air fuel mixture.

There are various chips that deal specifically with adjusting your computer to dealing with the hydrogen and oxygen...or there is a way to just reprogram your ecu and such...in short you kill the juice for about an hour and then start it up with the kit running and take a drive preferably on the highway for about an hour to adjust the computer....if you don't do either tho it will just do the opposite, the oxygen won't burn completely and the o2 sensors will pick it up increasing the fuel consumption leaving you screwed with less gas mileage haha

Ben-o 03-19-2012 05:46 PM

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Originally Posted by swamprat70785

Didn't mean a real dyno.. just how it feels driving is all..lol

Lol now that was what I was planning on

TOKKIE 03-19-2012 06:00 PM

I don't think clearing the computer and driving will set the correct air fuel ratio, like you said it will run fat. A chip or program on the other hand will. From what I have seen the chip/program will run at approx 18:1, this could cause other issues with the engine, such high combustion temps, pinging, damage to cat. and so on. I have done quite a bit of research on this and am still sceptical.

Ben-o 03-19-2012 06:11 PM

The thing is your pumping pure hydrogen and pure oxygen if you reset your ecu and such it is used to the consistency that the kit puts out so it will tune the intake so your running the same ratio but won't take in as much air....more efficient hydrogen and oxygen and less air = same amount of gases but better...sound right??

TOKKIE 03-19-2012 06:19 PM

I think there will be more oxygen in the exhaust, the intake can not take in less air. If this is the case the o2 will pick it up and compensate untill it reaches what the computer thinks is a 14.7:1 ratio.

Ben-o 03-19-2012 06:39 PM

Eh that's true especially cus the throttle body isn't electric...but it should compensate for the excess oxygen

Ben-o 03-19-2012 07:31 PM

But that also adds another question...when you put a cold air intake on you increasing your air intake a few gallons a min but you don't have to change anything yet fuel economy goes up when you put one on...these make a few liters a min...I get that it's wayyyy more potent tho

alpo96792 03-19-2012 07:37 PM

i was just reading about this. saw this video on youtube too. Improve Fuel Economy in Jeep Wrangler - Increase Mileage in Jeep Wrangler - YouTube

the results were not amazing but with how high gas prices are now, any help would be worth it.

i know there are alot of aspects to making this system work. let us know what you come up with.

:punk:


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